Roast AFL 'round zero' What a load of crap ...

[Carn The Berries]

Why are people surprised that there is no buzz in Sydney regarding the start to the season?

Its a city that generally doesn't give two stuffs about sport in general, but even less stuffs given to AFL.

Agree with this. The RL "Opener" last night, featuring one of the bigger Sydney clubs and Brisbane, was played at a half full SFS.

As a side note, apparently this facility is "world class" according to those north of the border. Chopped up like a farmer's bottom paddock last night after "a couple of decent showers" according to the Fox Commentary team.

 

[Carn The Berries]

This has nothing to do with Opening Round.

Ummmm.... It has everything to do with it....

 

[Broski]

Dude i don't think you get it. I'm not even taking notice of the benefits, i still don't know exactly what benefits you are talking about so no that's not the reason I don't care. I don't care because all I care about is tuning into my team. Politics is boring.

Very convenient. I completely understand your thought process. However, it's a very easy one to have when you support a team that the AFL adores and sees as a crucial money maker. The AFL simply can't afford the Swans to be poor.

Do with this information as you wish, but I am a Saints supporter and we are usually bent over when it comes to the fixture. This season, we play three of our first five games in Adelaide - that is the same as both SA teams.

Say what you want, but that is unbelievable and would not happen for teams like the Swans, Pies, Cats etc. Also, last year the AFL believed it was fair and equitable to ask the Saints to play three games in 10 days.

Again, I understand why you think the way you do but you are just simply wrong with the "I don't care about the fixture cause it's balanced and doesn't matter too much."

Less marketable teams are told to shut up and not complain. St Kilda's president questioned the lack on equality in the league and the whole media class attacked him for making a reasonable and correct observation.

 

[JackFlash]

The opportunity for an opening round extravaganza of football has been hijacked by the complete and utter madness that is inside the AFL. Play a full round to open up the season and you will get near record crowds. Who is thinking this stuff up?

 

[Purple Suit]

There's literally no documented advantage one way or the other with teams coming off byes vs. not.

It’s only happened 4 times in Opening round last year. 3 out of 4 teams lost who played a team coming off a game when they had not played.

So it’s literally tracking as a raw advantage right now but really needs more data.

It would have been very easy to remove this potential advantage but the AFL couldn’t schedule a fair fixture unless their bonuses depended on it.

 

[Underarm]

The opportunity for an opening round extravaganza of football has been hijacked by the complete and utter madness that is inside the AFL. Play a full round to open up the season and you will get near record crowds. Who is thinking this stuff up?

Last year proved you can have both.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Because Richmond and Carlton have a contract where they play the opening game of round 1, not the opening round of the season. It's an afl technicality

really? how long does this contract go for?

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

cyclone or not, this has to be one of the most lacklustre build ups to a season in memory

 

[daniel_4tw]

Can someone explain to me why they don’t just do a split round 1?

Week 1 play all the NSW and QLD games (if they must). Week 2, everyone else plays.

Would ensure they get their O games when they want, ensures fairness across the comp (instead of teams playing their first game vs teams playing their second), and allows for more standalone games.

Oh, and the AFL wouldn’t have ****ed the fixture like they have now.

 

[Walshawk]

Having games only in NSW and QLD makes no sense. If the aim is to get attention there is is a final. It is great to have sellout crowds there (actually GWS v Pies is not close to selling out at this stage), but how does no games in the footy states actually make any difference to the amount of exposure in NSW/Qld? The NRL in Vegas gets all the attention, particularly in Sydney.

The AFL has been asleep at the wheel since Peter Vlandys took over the NRL. The NRL explodes into their season with Vegas and we drip feed the fans with a less than half hearted effort. 19k at Homebush is less than inspiring. Split rounds are lame.

Time to do something the NRL can’t do - pack out nine games with half a million at round 1. Get all the fans involved. Start with a bang!

Blues v Tiges 80k
Hawks v Bombers 80k
Pies v Saints 80k
Dees v Cats 55k
Dogs v Roos 35k
Swans v GWS 45k
Lions v GC 35k
Crows v Port 53k
WC v Freo 60k

Make the most of the long weekend and play Sunday night and Monday so no games cross over.

 

[.Shotties.]

It’s only happened 4 times in Opening round last year. 3 out of 4 teams lost who played a team coming off a game when they had not played.

So it’s literally tracking as a raw advantage right now but really needs more data.

No, it isn't. If you want to look at opening round in isolation, there isn't enough data. And when you

 

[Pistol Night]

really how long does this contract go for?

Spot on. As a neutral i cant remember looking forward to this game once. One of them is always shit as is the case again this year

 

[Underarm]

Can someone explain to me why they don’t just do a split round 1?

Week 1 play all the NSW and QLD games (if they must). Week 2, everyone else plays.

Week 1 is all about giving the teams in NSW and QLD exposure that they wouldn't usually get. This is helped by the fact that there are less matches in NSW/QLD due to the Split round in the NRL.

Week 2 is all about setting attendance records for the round, hence why you get a full slate of games.

Would ensure they get their O games when they want, ensures fairness across the comp (instead of teams playing their first game vs teams playing their second), and allows for more standalone games.

The fairness issue is a non factor. In fact the premier of 2024 lost against a fresh team in round 1.

Oh, and the AFL wouldn’t have ****ed the fixture like they have now.

Barring a once in 50 year cyclone, the fixture would have fixed itself up by like round 4. blame the Cyclone, not the Opening round for that.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

The fairness issue is a non factor. In fact the premier of 2024 lost against a fresh team in round 1.

They did kick the first 6 or 7 goals though IIRC

 

[Underarm]

They did kick the first 6 or 7 goals though IIRC

So the Fresher side finished out the game better? It's a benefit for those who don't play in Opening Round?

 

[Purple Suit]

So the Fresher side finished out the game better? It's a benefit for those who don't play in Opening Round?

We adjusted to the tempo of an AFL game compared to pre-season.

The other three teams playing a match hardened opponent lost.

 

[Underarm]

We adjusted to the tempo of an AFL game compared to pre-season.

The other three teams playing a match hardened opponent lost.

And it couldn't have anything to do with Gold Coast and GWS just being better than Adelaide and North Melbourne?

Just sounds like there isn't close to enough evidence to make an conclusion either way.

 

[Purple Suit]

And it couldn't have anything to do with Gold Coast and GWS just being better than Adelaide and North Melbourne?

Just sounds like there isn't close to enough evidence to make an conclusion either way.

Who knows, there are too many factors in play. But you know what you solve the issue? Having the teams who play OR to play against each other in round 1.

The more variables the AFL introduces, the harder it is to have a fair and equitable competition. It's bad enough that we can't play everyone the same amount of times. They need to close all the extra noise off by going out of their way to make it fair.

 

[Mesc]

Who knows, there are too many factors in play. But you know what you solve the issue? Having the teams who play OR to play against each other in round 1.

The more variables the AFL introduces, the harder it is to have a fair and equitable competition. It's bad enough that we can't play everyone the same amount of times. They need to close all the extra noise off by going out of their way to make it fair.

Ive been saying it for years. Piss the preseason crap off. Have a regular season where every team plays each other twice, home and away. Cant get fairer than that.

 

[zyzzbruh]

Very convenient. I completely understand your thought process. However, it's a very easy one to have when you support a team that the AFL adores and sees as a crucial money maker. The AFL simply can't afford the Swans to be poor.

Do with this information as you wish, but I am a Saints supporter and we are usually bent over when it comes to the fixture. This season, we play three of our first five games in Adelaide - that is the same as both SA teams.

Say what you want, but that is unbelievable and would not happen for teams like the Swans, Pies, Cats etc. Also, last year the AFL believed it was fair and equitable to ask the Saints to play three games in 10 days.

Again, I understand why you think the way you do but you are just simply wrong with the "I don't care about the fixture cause it's balanced and doesn't matter too much."

Less marketable teams are told to shut up and not complain. St Kilda's president questioned the lack on equality in the league and the whole media class attacked him for making a reasonable and correct observation.

I'm specifically talking about the fixturing dates of opening round vs round 1.

Happy to debate as to whether you are getting bent over every year with your fixture but that would be a different conversation.

 

[Underarm]

Who knows, there are too many factors in play. But you know what you solve the issue? Having the teams who play OR to play against each other in round 1.

What issue? You can't even prove an issue exists?
The opponents in opening Round, and r1 are chosen to ensure maximum crowds and interest. It's not feasible, or required for them to play each other in r1

The more variables the AFL introduces, the harder it is to have a fair and equitable competition. It's bad enough that we can't play everyone the same amount of times. They need to close all the extra noise off by going out of their way to make it fair.

There's plenty of leagues with asymmetric schedules. When was the last time you heard of an nfl team complaining?

 

[Dogflogger]

Week 1 is all about giving the teams in NSW and QLD exposure that they wouldn't usually get. This is helped by the fact that there are less matches in NSW/QLD due to the Split round in the NRL.

Week 2 is all about setting attendance records for the round, hence why you get a full slate of games.

The fairness issue is a non factor. In fact the premier of 2024 lost against a fresh team in round 1.

Barring a once in 50 year cyclone, the fixture would have fixed itself up by like round 4. blame the Cyclone, not the Opening round for that.

the fixture actually doesn't fix itself up until round 16 during non-cyclone years.

 

[hoss]

Absolutely diabolical. Another opening round, and again absolutely no interest in the start of the season.

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[Gavin Excell]

Absolutely diabolical. Another opening round, and again absolutely no interest in the start of the season.

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It's amazing how much they've fcked it up

 

[Romeoh1]

Yep- don’t like it at all-week 1- everyone needs to play- simple.