Recruiting AFL Trade & Free Agency XII - 💰💰💰

[Keystone agony]

Well yeh a flag every 12 years is a lot better than the average of 18

 

[ghostdog]

I reckon we need to look at a dynamic small forward with innate ability who can be a constant goal threat. Just so happens Tyson Stengle

18

Tyson Stengle

Age

27

Ht

175cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

10.3

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.6

5star

is out of contract this year.

I think we also need to look at a small defender who can break lines on the run or by foot. Lo and behold! Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

27

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

1.2

4star

is also out of contract this year. Incidentally, Baker goes alright as a small forward, too. Loves Richmond, but if they struggle and we respect him by offering more than a two year contract (!), maybe he has a change of heart.

Other notable smalls OOC: Maurice Rioli and Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

 

[faible]

I reckon we need to look at a dynamic small forward with innate ability who can be a constant goal threat. Just so happens Tyson Stengle is out of contract this year.

I think we also need to look at a small defender who can break lines on the run or by foot. Lo and behold! Liam Baker is also out of contract this year. Incidentally, Baker goes alright as a small forward, too. Loves Richmond, but if they struggle and we respect him by offering more than a two year contract (!), maybe he has a change of heart.

Other notable smalls OOC: Maurice Rioli and Liam Ryan

Don't think any of those are realistic; Baker would cost a lot, Stengle found a home at Geelong after early struggles, Liam Ryan seems to have had a few legal issues that WCE have backed him in with, and is Maurice Rioli actually any good?

We've got Gresham coming in and Jayden Davey as a wild-card up forward, plus Alwyn Jnr is a bit of a TBC as to where on the field he ends up settling.

 

[ghostdog]

Don't think any of those are realistic; Baker would cost a lot, Stengle found a home at Geelong after early struggles, Liam Ryan seems to have had a few legal issues that WCE have backed him in with, and is Maurice Rioli actually any good?

We've got Gresham coming in and Jayden Davey as a wild-card up forward, plus Alwyn Jnr is a bit of a TBC as to where on the field he ends up settling.

Baker would cost a bit and rightly so. Lucky the warchest is intact. I can't see us chasing King or JUH now that we've drafted Caddy.

You may be right re: the Daveys. Are you willing to wait a year or two to find out? Jayden's coming back from, what 12 - 18 months out of the game? Alwyn's training as a small back. Hind is just about done. Gresham is a good addition but I don't see a dynamic small forward who can bob up and kick a bag if he plays a high-half role more. Menzie is promising, but both Stengle and Baker lift the standard of the team and challenge those boys to earn spots - good.

I also think we need another Setterfield type.

Bottom line is we still have the scope to trade strongly at year's end due to the chase for free agents. We'd be nuts not to chase a player of Baker's calibre IMO.

 

[faible]

Baker would cost a bit and rightly so. Lucky the warchest is intact. I can't see us chasing King or JUH now that we've drafted Caddy.

You may be right re: the Daveys. Are you willing to wait a year or two to find out? Jayden's coming back from, what 12 - 18 months out of the game? Alwyn's training as a small back. Hind is just about done. Gresham is a good addition but I don't see a dynamic small forward who can bob up and kick a bag if he plays a high-half role more. Menzie is promising, but both Stengle and Baker lift the standard of the team and challenge those boys to earn spots - good.

I also think we need another Setterfield type.

Bottom line is we still have the scope to trade strongly at year's end due to the chase for free agents. We'd be nuts not to chase a player of Baker's calibre IMO.

Sorry for Baker I meant trade currency cost, not just salary.

I don't see Stengle leaving Geelong after they've resurrected his career and seemingly got him in a good space after some troubles.

I think we'll know a lot more on the Davey front come the end of this season, Small Forwards are (fairly) easy to get via draft given they can usually contribute from the get-go. Not something I'd be going and spending a huge amount on.

Kako is draft eligible this year I'm pretty sure so would be one we might look at to bolster this area, early days it sounds like he'll go too high for us to get him as an NGA so we'd have to just draft him.

 

[ghostdog]

Sorry for Baker I meant trade currency cost, not just salary.

I don't see Stengle leaving Geelong after they've resurrected his career and seemingly got him in a good space after some troubles.

I think we'll know a lot more on the Davey front come the end of this season, Small Forwards are (fairly) easy to get via draft given they can usually contribute from the get-go. Not something I'd be going and spending a huge amount on.

Kako is draft eligible this year I'm pretty sure so would be one we might look at to bolster this area, early days it sounds like he'll go too high for us to get him as an NGA so we'd have to just draft him.

Yeah I'd trade McGrath for Baker in a heartbeat.

Maybe right about Stengle's loyalty, but money talks and he already paid them back with a premiership. I mentioned elsewhere that I'm keen on finding a good quality dynamic small forward with inate goal sense who could replace Walla's skill set. Alwyn could be that player but isn't training for that. The amount of the spend obviously depends on the player. I'd definitely pay up for prime Paul Chapman. If you're not keen on paying then there's an option like Maurice Rioli - interesting question of whether he's actually any good; probably no better than Stengle before he was picked up by Geelong.

I agree that the goings on for this year will tell us more, but I'd be pretty disappointed if we weren't angling for Liam Baker. He instantly improves any line we put him in.

 

[eth-dog]

So, um, SSP candidates? Best key forwards that went undrafted eDPS?

 

[eDPS]

So, um, SSP candidates? Best key forwards that went undrafted eDPS?

Too soon man too soon I would keep the spot for the MSD. See which key defenders aren’t getting a game for us and look to play them forward

 

[eth-dog]

Too soon man too soon I would keep the spot for the MSD. See which key defenders aren’t getting a game for us and look to play them forward

Damn, Weidman it is then .

Is there long enough between now and the deadline to get a good enough look anyway?

 

[faible]

Damn, Weidman it is then .

Is there long enough between now and the deadline to get a good enough look anyway?

Can't wait to be half way through the year missing a second tall forward and we think 'geez Weideman hasn't been able to get a game down back, we should try him up forward and see if he's any good'.

 

[citizen-erased]

Damn, Weidman it is then .

Is there long enough between now and the deadline to get a good enough look anyway?

i guess Hunter had a path to get ahead of our incumbents (Weid, Jones) anyway.
so i guess the spot could be viewed as an opp to fill the best need we can

 

[bombreys]

Damn, Weidman it is then .

Is there long enough between now and the deadline to get a good enough look anyway?

I think Weideman is going to play a lot more than we think

 

[ghostdog]

i guess Hunter had a path to get ahead of our incumbents (Weid, Jones) anyway.
so i guess the spot could be viewed as an opp to fill the best need we can

Looking forward to the Reid/Laverde/Baldwin/Weideman forward or back thread. What a cracker!

 

[Red Black and Blue]

I reckon we need to look at a dynamic small forward with innate ability who can be a constant goal threat. Just so happens Tyson Stengle is out of contract this year.

I think we also need to look at a small defender who can break lines on the run or by foot. Lo and behold! Liam Baker is also out of contract this year. Incidentally, Baker goes alright as a small forward, too. Loves Richmond, but if they struggle and we respect him by offering more than a two year contract (!), maybe he has a change of heart.

Other notable smalls OOC: Maurice Rioli and Liam Ryan

That's Gresham IMO. Stengle only went at 1.4 goals a game and so did Baker in the second half of the year. That's easy work for Gresham if we play him full time forward pocket.

 

[ghostdog]

That's Gresham IMO. Stengle only went at 1.4 goals a game and so did Baker in the second half of the year. That's easy work for Gresham if we play him full time forward pocket.

I don't think he will be a full time forward pocket though. I think Gresh is capable, but he's not a small forward who's going to light it up. Baker can play forward but I'd prefer he takes Hind's place. JDavey might get that spot, but I'm also mindful that he's had 2 ACLs.

FWIW, I'm more interested in Baker than Stengle. I didn't know about Kako until today. He could be special.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

I don't think he will be a full time forward pocket though. I think Gresh is capable, but he's not a small forward who's going to light it up. Baker can play forward but I'd prefer he takes Hind's place. JDavey might get that spot, but I'm also mindful that he's had 2 ACLs.

FWIW, I'm more interested in Baker than Stengle. I didn't know about Kako until today. He could be special.

I think the best years of his career were his first few when he was playing predominately forward and I don't think his body work elsewhere has shown anywhere near the promise, so I don't see why we shouldn't put him in that role. It's not like we aren't already overloaded in the midfield.

Would definitely take Baker whatever the role though. Absolute stud.

 

[TheGrizz]

not to mention if they kicked straight they might have added another, hard to tell how impactful the cultural stuff is really.

Talent and a bit of luck can get you a flag or two in a short period, but isn't sustainable.

Culture will get you sustained success over a long period. Look at how clubs like Geelong, Sydney etc have sustained regular finals births and grand finals despite constantly overturning rosters.

 

[yodellinhank]

Talent and a bit of luck can get you a flag or two in a short period, but isn't sustainable.

Culture will get you sustained success over a long period. Look at how clubs like Geelong, Sydney etc have sustained regular finals births and grand finals despite constantly overturning rosters.

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[andleanback]

12 years is not quickly.

They did make a prelim in 2012 and gf in 2015

 

[Keystone agony]

So, um, SSP candidates? Best key forwards that went undrafted eDPS?

Ewan Smith from Swan Districts id love to see. Project type which we may not need as below

Im not necessarily sure we need a KPF to replace him

Caddy, HJ, Cox, Baldwin, Hayes, Stringer and Reid all looking pretty good at this stage (Bryan and Goldy) aswell

A rebounding defender may be the go

 

[Vindicater]

If he is not getting regular games by mid season I would be heavily into Finn McRaes ear from Collingwood.

 

[Keystone agony]

If he is not getting regular games by mid season I would be heavily into Finn McRaes ear from Collingwood.

He wont get games with us either unless he really pops this year

Shiel - Pendlebury
Zerrett - Naicos
Parish - JDG
Setterfield - Crisp
Hobbs - Titch
Caldwell - Lipinski

Perkins - ? F.Macrae (VFL)
Stringer - ? R.Mcinness (VFL)
Gresham - ? (I hope and suspect hes mainly fwd - but hes shown he can do 60% CBAs with ease)

 

[jannissary]

was about to say that i'm still interested in tarryn thomas

26

Tarryn Thomas

Age

25

Ht

190cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.2

4star

CL

0.2

2star

D

12.8

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

0.4

3star

but...

Thomas summoned by AFL over troubling new allegations

Club confirms investigation

wwos.nine.com.au

ANOTHER DV allegation. can't imagine he's in the league much longer

 

[jdstorm]

He wont get games with us either unless he really pops this year

Shiel - Pendlebury
Zerrett - Naicos
Parish - JDG
Setterfield - Crisp
Hobbs - Titch
Caldwell - Lipinski

Perkins - ? F.Macrae (VFL)
Stringer - ? R.Mcinness (VFL)
Gresham - ? (I hope and suspect hes mainly fwd - but hes shown he can do 60% CBAs with ease)

Perkins = Lipinski as both are heartthrob HFS

 

[Keystone agony]

Ewan Smith - Young KPF/chop out ruck
Pat Voss - Doing well with freo training
Josh Eyre - Killing it at the pies

They would be the options imo tonreplace Hunter if we want like for like. The last 2 probably would feel they have loyalty elsewhere at this stage