AFLW 2018 - go you Crow girls!

[cmndstab]

So I take it the stories are based entirely on someone saying "I know the girls and many are not happy" as opposed to anything more concrete?

Not saying it's definitely true or false, just trying to work out the state of play.

 

[Sanders]

So I take it the stories are based entirely on someone saying "I know the girls and many are not happy" as opposed to anything more concrete?

Not saying it's definitely true or false, just trying to work out the state of play.

You might start with Phillips saying she couldn’t commit to us
Next day Goddard goes
Following day Phillips signs on and says she wants to play for us for next 3-5 years

 

[NTRabbit]

When did Phillips say she couldn't commit to us? Did I miss a statement? Haven't exactly paid the most attention to it the last fortnight

 

[Sanders]

When did Phillips say she couldn't commit to us? Did I miss a statement? Haven't exactly paid the most attention to it the last fortnight

About 3 days ago

Too much going on to be able to commit

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-12/aflw-superstar-phillips-wants-to-stay-a-crow

 

[Sanders]

When did Phillips say she couldn't commit to us? Did I miss a statement? Haven't exactly paid the most attention to it the last fortnight

What’s really interesting is that the story has been taken down

But the footprint is still there. Why would it be deleted?

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-12/aflw-superstar-phillips-wants-to-stay-a-crow

 

[NTRabbit]

What’s really interesting is that the story has been taken down

But the footprint is still there. Why would it be deleted?

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-12/aflw-superstar-phillips-wants-to-stay-a-crow



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Yeah, that's definitely smoke and fire, and someone with a lengthy pro ball career in the USA is going to have a much less squeamish attitude towards coaches and coaching changes than anyone in this country.

 

[Bicks]

Interesting...

 

[MRB37]

Interesting...

Supposedly not the first time it's happened to her. Same thing with her coaching in the NEAFL.

 

[FantasticShirt]

Bec Goddard is fairly active on social media and from what I saw she posted basically nothing about leaving the Crows. Not even a “thanks for the memories” type post. That says a fair bit.

 

[jenny61_99]

Bec Goddard is fairly active on social media and from what I saw she posted basically nothing about leaving the Crows. Not even a “thanks for the memories” type post. That says a fair bit.

And yet her profile pic and banner are still of the Crows AFLW premiership. Reckon if she was pissed off at the Crows they would have been the first to go.

 

[FantasticShirt]

And yet her profile pic and banner are still of the Crows AFLW premiership. Reckon if she was pissed off at the Crows they would have been the first to go.

Maybe she really likes the lighting.

 

[jatz14]

Bec Goddard is fairly active on social media and from what I saw she posted basically nothing about leaving the Crows. Not even a “thanks for the memories” type post. That says a fair bit.

Maybe what it says most is about Bec Goddard?

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[FantasticShirt]

Maybe what it says most is about Bec Goddard?

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We’re all just guessing here. But there’s enough smoke to suggest that there was a fire at some point. Who knows how big and who was fueling it.

 

[Crow54]

I haven't listened to this. But I really like Bec, and would be very disappointed if for some reason it's the Crows that have stuffed up.

“I don’t believe it was amicable,” Caro told FIVEaa.
“I don’t think it ended well and I don’t think Bec’s happy. I think it’s a pity that someone who was such a heroine just over a year ago is now back coaching the forward line of the Canberra sharks.
“I just think it’s really disappointing.”

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/shows/row...o-Bec-Goddard-s-Crows-Exit-Than-First-Thought

 

[Next Gen Rookie]

I haven't listened to this. But I really like Bec, and would be very disappointed if for some reason it's the Crows that have stuffed up.



https://www.fiveaa.com.au/shows/row...o-Bec-Goddard-s-Crows-Exit-Than-First-Thought

The story I read was she wanted to stay but in an increased capacity, due to the money & seniority built up at the AFP.

The club couldn't/wouldn't offer her the money she wanted, due to the cap on Football Dept spend. So she followed her career back to Canberra (with her contract for her Adelaide role here ending).

She would probably be disappointed they didn't give her a job promotion, but it's not like they ran her out of town.

(this went into more detail - http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...r/news-story/2a3860b297774762a6abf50b6cf26b6f)

 

[John Who]

The story I read was she wanted to stay but in an increased capacity, due to the money & seniority built up at the AFP.

The club couldn't/wouldn't offer her the money she wanted, due to the cap on Football Dept spend. So she followed her career back to Canberra (with her contract for her Adelaide role here ending).

She would probably be disappointed they didn't give her a job promotion, but it's not like they ran her out of town.

(this went into more detail - http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...r/news-story/2a3860b297774762a6abf50b6cf26b6f)

This seems like the most plausible out of all the probable stories.

I guess if she's wanting to continue with the Crows, and the club doesn't feel she's the best person for next year, then there will be inevitable disappointments. I just hope the next coach makes the girls do more handball training!

 

[radiojake]

I have no idea about any inner sanctum workings/relationships

This is all my own musings

Would her Federal Police background make her a hard taskmaster that the players didn't respond to that well (once the hype and excitement of the first season dissipated)?

 

[MRB37]

Possible suitors include 340-game champion Andrew McLeod, his two-time premiership winning teammate Peter Caven and Brooke Copeland, who all joined Goddard’s coaching panel last season. Senior assistant Andrew Hodges and Tim Weatherald, who played 311 SANFL games with Sturt and Norwood and won the 2002 Magarey Medal, are also in the mix.

Weatherald spent last week at Adelaide in talks with Phil Harper about coaching up to 10 of the Crows in the NT Thunder’s inaugural VFL women’s team, which opens its season on May 5.

“I’d be open to it (the Adelaide coaching job) but I haven’t had any talks with anyone about it,” Weatherald said.

 

[Firewalker]

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/25/aflw-is-at-risk-of-being-run-by-men-for-men-where-are-the-female-coaches?

A very good article, a problem not alone to just AFLW but also women sport in general but certainly something I’ve been concerned about with AFLW especially now after Goddard’s and Cowan’s departures

 

[John Who]

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/25/aflw-is-at-risk-of-being-run-by-men-for-men-where-are-the-female-coaches?

A very good article, a problem not alone to just AFLW but also women sport in general but certainly something I’ve been concerned about with AFLW especially now after Goddard’s and Cowan’s departures

Good read. Though it's hard to draw the line between sexism in allocating coaches and wanting to increase the clubs' professionalism.

If you're talking about strategies, experience and understanding of the game, then it will be hard to find ones without having experienced playing/coaching in the AFL level. So not all that surprising to see AFLW clubs seeking male coaches than female ones.

 

[1970crow]

Can't blame her for looking at big offers, pretty sure she is a massive port and collingwood supporter

I don't think it's structured in a way that she can earn more in playing wages anywhere else. It'll be the off-field opportunities that'll be the difference.

 

[1970crow]

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/25/aflw-is-at-risk-of-being-run-by-men-for-men-where-are-the-female-coaches?

A very good article, a problem not alone to just AFLW but also women sport in general but certainly something I’ve been concerned about with AFLW especially now after Goddard’s and Cowan’s departures

A truely professional and elite league will employ the best candidate for the money on offer. It's commonsense that most people with experience working with elite coaches will be male. It would be a problem if clubs were ignoring males to appoint token females. In a few years it will be different, but for now, the best coaches will largely be blokes out of the AFL system.

 

[Caputo]

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/25/aflw-is-at-risk-of-being-run-by-men-for-men-where-are-the-female-coaches?

A very good article, a problem not alone to just AFLW but also women sport in general but certainly something I’ve been concerned about with AFLW especially now after Goddard’s and Cowan’s departures

Maybe they may need an Australian equivalent to the 'Rooney Rule' in the NFL where it would be mandatory to interview female coaches.

 

[John Who]

Maybe they may need an Australian equivalent to the 'Rooney Rule' in the NFL where it would be mandatory to interview female coaches.

Even if they interviewed female coaches, can you see the AFLW clubs issue in deciding whether to pick from:
1. Coach with AFL level experience (likely to be a male)
2. Coach with female clubs at district level

 

[1970crow]

Even if they interviewed female coaches, can you see the AFLW clubs issue in deciding whether to pick from:
1. Coach with AFL level experience (likely to be a male)
2. Coach with female clubs at district level

More female coaches will come when their experience in being involved for years in the elite league will be more valued than males from the AFL. It won't take long.