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Recommitted Andrew Gaff [re-signed]
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It was a dig at previous posters who seem to believe that if Gaff wants to leave as a FA he will just leave and we'll take pick 19 and be happy,
Yeah it's a magic formula so who really knows. If $700k is close for a 27 year old then maybe it gets it done for a 26 year old. Maybe it will take $750k, $800k, $1.5m - who knows.
The only way Gaff gets $1m/year is if it's a short term contract designed to maximise FA compo. If a player leaves, their original club doesn't really care how much they get paid - only what they get in return. No one is going to offer Gaff $1m a year over a 5 or 6 year deal. That's nuts.
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Heard that too.
Do you want us to throw in any retirees to sweeten the deal?
Yeah I would be much more loathe to pay our first this year than to pay him extra to get WCE first round compo.
If we had to trade for someone for the wing I would almost certainly prefer to pay the lesser price for the quicker Aaron Hall (who is also OOC), as it's that extra speed and probably extra disposals in the front half of the ground that I feel we need most.
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Gaff has the s**t Oasis brothers hairstyle
Top 5 in his team (way better than Hurn), but seems better when compared to his very average midfield team mates
In a team like Geelong or Sydney for example he’d probably be the 6th best mid
& for those teams with lesser midfield depth, they’d want more of a leader I’d think
So early 2nd round or late 1st rounder is about par
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If Gaff has a better year than 2017 and can stay injury free band 1 contract.
If he struggles band 2 contract.
Eagles will match any band 2 contract to force a trade. They will get better than pick 19 + for Gaff.
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It's a bit of a no brainer given you can apparently buy FAs with 2 year contracts under the AFL's magic formula. Sign Gaff for $2m over 2 years then re-sign him after that for whatever you want that is nobody's business.
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Shuey, Yeo, Kennedy, Naitanui, McGovern would be WC's top five, in whatever order.
Par for what? A trade or FA compensation?
If Gaff was merely out of contract and requested a trade, WC would surely be getting more than an early second-rounder for him.
And if the offer for Gaff as a FA doesn't trigger Band 1 compensation, WC should match it.
Whats are the numbers that would be attached to Gaff?
I think it has to get close 1M to get band 1 now .. and if WC got end of R1 for him in a strong draft year .. it would be a very big call to match a 2 year contract and then he walks in 2 years time ... and who knows what the draft is like that year. An end R1 this year could almost be as good as top 10 some years.
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Well for the first time in his career Gaff topped the game in contested possessions with 13.
Simpson playing him on ball more. He's no midfield bull but he certainly has put on some beef and isnt afraid to have a crack and win his own ball.
Simpson playing him on ball more. He's no midfield bull but he certainly has put on some beef and isnt afraid to have a crack and win his own ball.
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His kicking is elite.Well for the first time in his career Gaff topped the game in contested possessions with 13.
Simpson playing him on ball more. He's no midfield bull but he certainly has put on some beef and isnt afraid to have a crack and win his own ball.
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He'll go for a compensation pick or he'll stay with WCE.
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The word coming out is the top 10 are really good and then the next 20 are good but even.
Gaff is worth more than a mid first rounder compo, say pick 11/12. Who knows what you will get, with Gaff you have exposed form and durability.
The principle of FA is partial comp..not full comp. The better player..the more short changed you are. You get anything first round this year..which allows you a very early pick at some WA talent ...take it and run.
You can match... (crows did a deal and didn't match. )... but the Ablett last 12 months at gc shows the danger of players that not commited 100 percent.
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Players with integrity dont shaft their clubs even when leaving. Judd and Dangerfield are two. Gaff has integrity and the Eagles are renound to be fair traders.
If.....and it is still an if Gaff wants to move Im sure a compromise will be found if needed.
I the Eagles finish bottom 3 and the compo pick is a top 5 pick then that should be fine but pick 11 or 12 is ify!
Against the worst performing team in it atm. Nothing to hang your hat on . Lets wait until he does it playing against the leagues top midfields of port ,gws , geelong,freo and richmondWell for the first time in his career Gaff topped the game in contested possessions with 13.
Simpson playing him on ball more. He's no midfield bull but he certainly has put on some beef and isnt afraid to have a crack and win his own ball.
Worth a mid first rounder as compo at best
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Well for the first time in his career Gaff topped the game in contested possessions with 13.
Simpson playing him on ball more. He's no midfield bull but he certainly has put on some beef and isnt afraid to have a crack and win his own ball.
I've never really seen the contested side being that much of an issue with Gaff. Some players are just better served playing on the outside, there's no shame in that.
My issue has always been that for his elite running ability, and the volume of ball (particularly uncontested ball) he gets, and the kicking skills he has, he just doesn't seem to have enough "hurt factor". Over the last three seasons (2015-2017), his numbers have been as follows:
71 of a possible 72 games
88.93% gametime
29.69 disposals per game
72.44% disposal efficiency
16.94% turnover ratio
24.72% contested possessions
1.32 kick-to-handball ratio
15.13 metres per disposal
3.83 inside 50s per game
0.34 goals per game
0.48 goal assists per game
6.18 score involvements per game
I would expect with his tools and ball-winning ability, for him to be more of a playmaker and do some more damage on the scoreboard. To me that's the "next step" that he can and hopefully will take, over and above winning more contested ball.
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Players who feel they earned FA and have that FA stiffled may feel differently about the club that impedes their movement . On the other hand maybe it doesn't worry him.. and as long as he gets the money he wants he will stay at GC for another two years.
FA is still in its infancy in the afl. It would change the situation if clubs had the ability to push trade ..and clubs did not get comp for UFA. To me the whole concept of UFA is a discriminatory act. I wonder if it would stand up in court.
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His kicking was pretty good yesterday.
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