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You do understand the title of this thread, right?sorry but I don’t have to justify anything and I’m not sure why you think anyone does
You got the deluded bit rightThere are many sick and deluded people in this world. Always have been, and no doubt will continue.
Was the question too difficult for youWhat do those 2 very different individuals say about themselves?
You seem to have good intentions so I'll try to let you down easy.
Nobody wants to know why you believe in fairytales. I'm not sure why you keep coming back because you have nothing of value to offer and even less to gain from replying to posts in this thread.
If you're happy in life, that's all anyone wants.
If you're not happy, or want to keep selling us sh*t that we don't need, you'll be eaten alive here.
Do you have children, have you given them the opportunity to reject your beliefs or have you convinced them that Jesus is the way, the only thing saving them from an eternity of torture and suffering after their physical lives end?sorry but my beliefs aren’t used to justify any of these things
Yet you worship a being that asks it followers to kill, rape and how to beat a slave to within an inch of their lives and you have the ******* audacity to call someone else a “real dick”.What are getting out of this other than some weird superiority thing.
You come across as a real dick.
Do you have children, have you given them the opportunity to reject your beliefs or have you convinced them that Jesus is the way, the only thing saving them from an eternity of torture and suffering after their physical lives end?
If I have a weird superiority thing and I'm a bit of a dick, presumably I'm rather christlike.Yet you worship a being that asks it followers to kill, rape and how to beat a slave to within an inch of their lives and you have the ******* audacity to call someone else a “real dick”.
It just shows how deeply your mind has been poisoned!
Now tell us, name one characteristic your Uber being exhibits?
I don't like to judge other people's faith. Trump is not someone I look up to as a role model, but like all of us, we don't know him. I leave the judging to God when it comes to degree of faith and obedience. We will all be judged at some point. There are many Christians I have encountered that have some attributes that are Christ-like and could be regarded as inspiring. I need personal knowledge of people to like their Christianity. ScoMo and TrumpWas the question too difficult for you
On the question of what a Christian is, would you rate Scott Morrison and Donald Trump as genuine Christians?
So, are you cool with the fact that whilst you’re whooping up with Jesus and the head honcho, your kids will be suffering eternal torture?They're people. Smart people. I can't make them think or believe anything.
So, are you cool with the fact that whilst you’re whooping up with Jesus and the head honcho, your kids will be suffering eternal torture?
They're older now though, yeah?They're people. Smart people. I can't make them think or believe anything.
They're older now though, yeah?
When you were 3 or 4 years of age - if you can remember back that far - can you remember winning many arguments with your parents? Were you able to argue rationally that early?
I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying that, in general, children are going to go to church, to their religious school, and get lead into it unquestioning. Acceptance is easy when you're a kid.
Okay.I went to a Christian school. I learned a lot from it but I found my own path to where I am now. My boys are 10 and 12 and don’t go to a Christian school and for most of their lives haven’t gone to church.
Are you going to put in a good word them, ya know, try to convince the Jewish bloke and Watchmaker that your progeny might not believe in them, but they still don’t deserve eternal hellfire because they’re “like really good people”?No I'm not but I can't make that choice for them.
Are going to put in a good word them, ya know, try to convince the Jewish bloke and Watchmaker that your progeny might not believe in them, but they still don’t deserve eternal hellfire because they’re “like really good people”?
Btw, are concerned that you may have sit next to the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer at dinner time in heaven, whilst the good old devil is shoving a fork up your kids butts or something, is that what he does, like aliens, shoves things up peoples butts, even when they don’t like having things shoved up their butts?
I’m so confused about what really happens in Hell.
Considering it’s eternal and I’m presuming I’m headed there, will I eventually get bored or complacent about the horned dude ramming his blivet up my clacker, could I more than likely actually come to enjoy this after say, 13.8 billion years?
You’re cool with living in bliss for eternity, whilst your children are tortured mercilessly infinitely?No. I will pray for them and ask that they find Him.
Do you really think if I was in heaven that I'd care one iota who was next to me. Why is it so hard for people like you to say "Ok I - ME - MYSELF - I don't believe this stuff but if I DID, this is what the outcome would be."?
How hard is it to say "ok this guy is a fruitloop and believes hogwash but his belief is that eternal life in heaven is going to be perfect so he's not going to care about what hypothetically awaits him when he gets there."
No. I will pray for them and ask that they find Him.
Do you really think if I was in heaven that I'd care one iota who was next to me. Why is it so hard for people like you to say "Ok I - ME - MYSELF - I don't believe this stuff but if I DID, this is what the outcome would be."?
How hard is it to say "ok this guy is a fruitloop and believes hogwash but his belief is that eternal life in heaven is going to be perfect so he's not going to care about what hypothetically awaits him when he gets there."
You’re cool with living in bliss for eternity, whilst your children are tortured mercilessly?
Do you have your parental instincts at the door or something?
Do people in heaven get older? Is there an upper limit?
Because no one is talking about the pile of fetuses in the corner.
Really?
Yes because I said earlier how much I want that to happen. Oh wait, no I didn't. Will there come a point where you realise that, dumb as I may be, I actually CAN tell when words are being put in my mouth - or keyboard as it were?
In this life I'd be devastated at the thought. As such I'll do what I can, short of forcing it on them, to help them in their journey. But once I'm in heaven the nature of heaven is that i wouldn't be afflicted by grief. And based on my belief one of my children is already waiting for me there so that in itself is one thing to look forward to from this realm.
Curious to see what spin you will put on my words in your next post.
I’m not try to spin anything.Yes because I said earlier how much I want that to happen. Oh wait, no I didn't. Will there come a point where you realise that, dumb as I may be, I actually CAN tell when words are being put in my mouth - or keyboard as it were?
In this life I'd be devastated at the thought. As such I'll do what I can, short of forcing it on them, to help them in their journey. But once I'm in heaven the nature of heaven is that i wouldn't be afflicted by grief. And based on my belief one of my children is already waiting for me there so that in itself is one thing to look forward to from this realm.
Curious to see what spin you will put on my words in your next post.
Really sorry about your child but I think we've found the reason for your beliefs.