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Splitting hairs really endears you to everyone here. Keep up the great work champ
Lovely stone you’re appealing to there, maybe throw it in a pond for affect.
Well it doesn't happen in Christianity but Hinduism has at least one school of materialism that, although it accepts reincarnation, doesn't accept the existence of any gods.
Buddhism is essentially a "god free" religion too if you look at it properly.
I think if the world's governments grew a pair and researched in-depth the intelligence quotient of all of our religiously inclined, the results would probably point to believers being our dumbest humans
You haven't presented any compelling evidence (or any evidence at all tbh) of why anyone should take your silly rants seriously. Please provide some facts for your claims.
What proof do you have they existed?
Did you know there are atheist schools in some religions?
(As in schools of thought, not physical buildings or whatever.)
It’s history numbnuts. It was what was being taught... doesn’t have to be correct. It happened. It’s Christian doctrine. God made man in Gods image etc etc.. The Church ruled etc etc. The Vatican observatory is one of the oldest astronomical institutes .
I'll hazard a guess and surmise that you knew what I was talking about..... and yes I do believe evolution has been scientifically proven beyond doubt.Grow feathers, learn to sing and then fly?
Or were you talking about a specific dinosaur?
My limited intelligence is struggling to make sense of this Bt, if by god you mean the Abrahamic version I would substitute gullibility/indoctrination for intelligence.Humans see God because of our intelligence. You are getting intelligence and education mixed up.
There are several studies on that very topic.I think if the world's governments grew a pair and researched in-depth the intelligence quotient of all of our religiously inclined, the results would probably point to believers being our dumbest humans
The churchs love hate relationship with actual science (over a long period) is very interesting
My limited intelligence is struggling to make sense of this Bt, if by god you mean the Abrahamic version I would substitute gullibility/indoctrination for intelligence.
Im making the claim there are no gods of any shape of form. As i am making the claim i should justify it shouldnt I? Otherwise i can only conclude that i dont think there are any gods but i have no justification for that assertion?WRONG, only the person making the claim is required to justify or demonstrate that claim.
Why the fu** do I need to justify that I haven’t been shown evidence for the non existence of anything?
FFS
Are you calling the apostles liars? What proof do you have that they were lying ?
Then your position is not atheism, it is agnostic atheism.Im making the claim there are no gods of any shape of form. As i am making the claim i should justify it shouldnt I? Otherwise i can only conclude that i dont think there are any gods but i have no justification for that assertion?
Note. Not being able to justify there is no gods does not provide justification that there are gods. It simply means we can not make any claim.
Well then, Muhammad was the last prophet and flew to heaven on a Buraq and you’ve made allah very angry.Because someone said they did .
No disagreement there.Well it doesn't happen in Christianity but Hinduism has at least one school of materialism that, although it accepts reincarnation, doesn't accept the existence of any gods.
Buddhism is essentially a "god free" religion too if you look at it properly.
I amAre you calling the apostles liars? What proof do you have that they were lying ?
I'll hazard a guess and surmise that you knew what I was talking about..... and yes I do believe evolution has been scientifically proven beyond doubt.
I agree with all that, perhaps I should have posted beyond "reasonable" doubt.No it hasn't.
It should always be doubted, and as result tested. So far parts of it have stood up to every test and therefore it is still a valid theory. But it could still be proven wrong. (Theoretically, don't ask me how.).
Also, and more importantly:
The "theory of evolution" has changed and adapted to new findings and new information, it isn't set in stone. These days we recognise epigenetics as a thing. Once upon a time it was unheard or dismissed as too close to Lamark.
It may seem pedantic but imo this is the main difference between science and religion.
There is always room for doubt in science, imo (and that even extends to the existence of gods and goddesses and whatever else, again imo.)
All science can do is make testable statements about measure able things.
If you can't measure it you can't test it.
Look how hard it is to measure the Higgs Boson.
Godel was all over this last century.
That's my main point. Don't be dogmatic about science. It isn't a religion.
I agree with all that, perhaps I should have posted beyond "reasonable" doubt.
You have lost me. Maybe because you are using a different definition of belief.Then your position is not atheism, it is agnostic atheism.
Of course if you are making the claim then you need to demonstrate either empirically or philosophically how you came to that conclusion.
It’s not a subtle difference here.
Your position posits belief, atheism posits non belief.
The claimant must always justify and evidence the claim, just as in a Court of Law.
If this wasn’t the case, we'd still believe the earth was the centre of the universe and that humanity was the highest form and ultimate goal of creation, quite clearly, both of these positions have been demonstrably proven to be false.
Do we agree?