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Who said anything about hate? Unless using statistically evidence is hate then I'll accept I miss informed. Bollinger took a wicket that test, Hussey missed a sitter and the rest is history. It was a bad test for Bollinger, it was a bad test for Siddle and it was a bad test for Australia.

Bollinger shouldn't have to mend any fences because he didn't do anything wrong, he didn't give up, he didn't say I'm mentally weak when the big show is on, he said he hit a wall in tough conditions and couldn't do better than what he was. Besides bowling his arse off in the shield match prior to and during the training sessions to actually make the side, I don't even find that to be an excuse, it was honesty.

74 wickets in 22 tests? Nathan Hauritz should be in front of him by a country mile, let alone Bollinger.

I agree about Bollinger. He has somehow shot himself in the foot without having done much wrong. For example, he hasn't gone to Lords and embarrassed every Australian fan, not to mention his teammates, like MJ and he hasn't come out and said that he can't handle the pressure of big series either. He also hasn't bowled at his own toes in a match like Hilfy did.

I really wish Copeland had taken more wickets, I was so hoping he would. That might have stood him a chance in the selectors' eyes but I see no chance for him or Butterworth which is a great shame as at least 2 of whatever seam bowlers we start with will give away too many runs. Those 2 being Siddle and MJ probably. Definitely MJ anyway.

I have learnt something interesting about this tour anyhow. Mitchell Marsh can bowl and obviously bowls a fair bit actually at the stumps as he gets people out lbw and bowled and he hardly bowls any wides or no-balls. At 19, that sounds like a real and unexpected bonus, because I wouldn't have had him in the 4-day outfit. His batting in the long format has been for the birds though. I reckon he's got Watson's problem of being an LBW candidate from the limited amount of time I've seen him bat.
 
Bollinger let us down once, Johnson has let us down in nearly every series he has played in the last 18 months and he's still a first choice.

Same thing happened to s clark, he won us the fourth ashes test in 09, then he and all the other quick's struggled in the decider and bang his career is over.

If siddle hilf and johnson were judged by the same criteria as bollinger and clark we would never see any of them near the national side again, but those three are pontings boys so they get chance after chance.
 
Mate we don't pick the Australian side based on domestic form anymore.

I am not sure what we pick it on, but it isn't domestic form.

I'm not sure that it ever was a big criteria. Some of the big names were picked with stuff all games behind them, McGrath, Warne spring to mind.
 
I'm not sure that it ever was a big criteria. Some of the big names were picked with stuff all games behind them, McGrath, Warne spring to mind.
two of the few, and they are all time greats. and mcgrath had a pretty decent record. 8 matches, 32 wkts at 24. not great, but good.

most blokes need a bit of time in the first class scene before they make the leap. martyn and hayden were picked too early but after blasting away at shield level got another chance and dominated.
 

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Who said anything about hate? Unless using statistically evidence is hate then I'll accept I miss informed. Bollinger took a wicket that test, Hussey missed a sitter and the rest is history. It was a bad test for Bollinger, it was a bad test for Siddle and it was a bad test for Australia.

Bollinger shouldn't have to mend any fences because he didn't do anything wrong, he didn't give up, he didn't say I'm mentally weak when the big show is on, he said he hit a wall in tough conditions and couldn't do better than what he was. Besides bowling his arse off in the shield match prior to and during the training sessions to actually make the side, I don't even find that to be an excuse, it was honesty.

74 wickets in 22 tests? Nathan Hauritz should be in front of him by a country mile, let alone Bollinger.

So if Bollinger didn't do anything wrong why will he not be on the plane to Sri Lanka and why is he our 25th ranked player?
 
That can't be a serious question?


Or do you really need a repeat of the litany of massive mistakes and failed left field selections our selectors have made in recent years?

The idea that a selection decision is justified simply because hilditch and co have made it is simply laughable.
 
So if Bollinger didn't do anything wrong why will he not be on the plane to Sri Lanka and why is he our 25th ranked player?

Probably getting more out of bowling to Katich in pre-season training I guess.
 
two of the few, and they are all time greats. and mcgrath had a pretty decent record. 8 matches, 32 wkts at 24. not great, but good.

most blokes need a bit of time in the first class scene before they make the leap. martyn and hayden were picked too early but after blasting away at shield level got another chance and dominated.

They weren't all time greats when they started. I'll be everyone was laughing about Warney and calling him that fat pie-chucker as he had been smashed around at grade level.
 
Soild start for AIS on the start of the 3 day matches.

AIS 304 for 5d

Armstrong 112
Keath 73
Beaton 50*
Maxwell 36

New Zealand 14 for 1

Cutting 1 for 4


Not sure what happened in the India vs SA game.
 

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big summer for ben cutting after missing all of last years.

can bowl.

I agree, expecting big things from him this season. Should be pushing for Aussie selection if he stays fit. :thumbsu:
 
Strange, strange handling of the bowlers too. Dixon only 3 overs, Abbott kept off until way into the day - although for good reason it seems. Strac bowled 5 last night, and bowled the last today obviously, so 7 for the rest of the day. I think Holland is captain and he's given himself fewer overs than Brain. Be a bit selfish man!

And why Starc's even playing I don't know
 
It's always ended up like this, the opposition send basically an A side. Oh well gives our boys a proper test. Maxwell carrying on his excellent FC record thus far too bad it won't count.
 

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Scores are out...

AIS 8 for 388

Keath 104
Maxwell 90
Beaton 79

New Zealand 7 for 343 (target: 353 runs)

Watling 139

Abbott with 3 wickets
 
I agree, expecting big things from him this season. Should be pushing for Aussie selection if he stays fit. :thumbsu:

pretty sure he was a certainty to be picked on that NZ tour at end of 09/10 season but got injured and has hardly played.

hasn't proved too bad in terms of the australian team cause harris got a gig and has proved a really good bowler.

my memory is not great to be honest. harris might have been going all along. he was definately going for the ODI's cause he took a load of wickets in the OD series in australia.
 

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