Bartel's in trouble

[cats2rise]

I knew it would happen, but it shouldn't have.

 

[-Charlie-]

Oh really now!
Why don't the AFL just ban the bump! That is pathetic.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

It's a joke...

 

[thehoff]

Surely we'll fight the suspension.

 

[Shell]

It's a joke...

So is channel nine...

 

[The Lord Commander]

It's official.

Aussie rules is now a non-contact sport.

 

[catempire]

I wish I hadn't been right about the title of this thread.

However, there is some good news. I was incorrect in assuming that 70 points would be added to his total. Instead, he gets a 25% loading.

This has two implications:

1. He can fight the charge with no fear of getting 2 weeks instead of 1.

2. He can attempt to have the conduct downgraded from "reckless" to "negligent" and then plead guilty to the lesser charge which will yield a reprimand rather than a week's suspension.

I've got no doubt this is what they'll do. Charman got a week last week for something quite similar but his was graded as "negligent". Bartel's should have been the same and therefore should only be worth a reprimand.

 

[jim boy]

I wish I hadn't been right about the title of this thread.

However, there is some good news. I was incorrect in assuming that 70 points would be added to his total. Instead, he gets a 25% loading.

This has two implications:

1. He can fight the charge with no fear of getting 2 weeks instead of 1.

2. He can attempt to have the conduct downgraded from "reckless" to "negligent" and then plead guilty to the lesser charge which will yield a reprimand rather than a week's suspension.

I've got no doubt this is what they'll do. Charman got a week last week for something quite similar but his was graded as "negligent". Bartel's should have been the same and therefore should only be worth a reprimand.

It's worth a shot, but considering the complete hysteria thats been whipped up about the topic in general, its very long odds he'll get it reduced.

 

[GeeCat]

It's worth a shot, but considering the complete hysteria thats been whipped up about the topic in general, its very long odds he'll get it reduced.

Agreed.

Perhaps had it been any other week, we may have stood a legitimate chance before the tribunal, but take it up this week and we'll face a panel that will undoubtedly have one ear pre-blocked.

 

[Champ39]

Pfft.. the AFL is ridiculous.
Really it is beyond stupid now, why the **** would they get rid of the one thing that makes it exciting.
Pfft I say!

 

[catempire]

Jim Boy and Gee Cat, the thing in our favour is that only a week ago Charman's was adjudicated as negligent where as Bartel got reckless. It's a legitimate question to ask why. The tribunal have a good record of disagreeing with the MRP and I think there's a good chance they could disagree here too.

 

[jess_555]

If you look at the replay corret me if I'm worng but I think Bartel actually tried to slow down before the bump. I supose that doesn't get him off. Bad luck to Jimmy. Stupid AFL tribunal people!!! They lost me after that decision against Mooney all those weeks ago.

 

[GeeCat]

Jim Boy and Gee Cat, the thing in our favour is that only a week ago Charman's was adjudicated as negligent where as Bartel got reckless. It's a legitimate question to ask why. The tribunal have a good record of disagreeing with the MRP and I think there's a good chance they could disagree here too.

There's always a chance the tribunal will overturn, and I don't see the harm in bringing a case forward, but the the chances of such happening are slim, perhaps moreso this week than any other. I guess I just don't expect to see Jimmy make the trip across west.

 

[Shell]

If you look at the replay corret me if I'm worng but I think Bartel actually tried to slow down before the bump. I supose that doesn't get him off. Bad luck to Jimmy. Stupid AFL tribunal people!!! They lost me after that decision against Mooney all those weeks ago.

Yeah he did. Doubt it will help tho. I think he best take the week. Having two interstaters in a row, i wouldnt want to lose him for the Adelaide game.

 

[catempire]

There's always a chance the tribunal will overturn, and I don't see the harm in bringing a case forward, but the the chances of such happening are slim, perhaps moreso this week than any other. I guess I just don't expect to see Jimmy make the trip across west.

I see where you're coming from, I just think the tribunal have shown no reluctance to go against the grain. I think this is because the panel is made up by former players who empathise with the charged player more often than not. I think the recent precedent also works in our favour.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

Agreed.

Perhaps had it been any other week, we may have stood a legitimate chance before the tribunal, but take it up this week and we'll face a panel that will undoubtedly have one ear pre-blocked.

I understand what you are saying and unfortunately this will probably be the case, but I don't see why the AFL should go hard on Bartel/Rawlings because of an accidental collision involving Caracella.

 

[JUBJUB]

The case is going before the tribunal tonight.
Hopefully it'll end up in another slap in the face for Schwab and his MRP goons.

 

[D0nk]

Yeah pretty ridiculous, he's realised what's gonna happen then stopped and braced himself for the contact. What's he supposed to do? Start running backwards?

 

[Rosella]

All three reports this week have chosen to contest. So we'll see how he goes.