BBL Signings 2022/23

[burge13]

The thing with Stoinis is his form has plummeted, take aside his performance in new years eve, he was striking it at 107.5 strike rate in BBL 13 from 9 matches. And the SA20 he has looked cooked as well, striking it no better than 105 strike rate from 5 games.

His body language looks shot at the moment. He would probably be one of their higher paid players at the Stars too, commanding at least $300,000 per season. In the last 2 seasons anyway, he has looked like a player that looks like he would rather be anyway near that Stars set up.

Does he open there?

Pretty clear his best spot is opening and needs a bit longer to get going these days. We try to get too cute in BBL with 'specialist' positions in the batting order. Just get your highest ceiling batsmen at the crease the longest. Tim David at 6 is a waste, put him in at 3-4 and if he bats 10 overs you've won. If Stoin has anything left in the tank at all, he has to open or why bother. Send Maxwell out with him too

 

[eth-dog]

Didn’t know where to put this. Looked like the best place. Will Pucovski has signed for Leicestershire for the start of the northern summer

Australians in county cricket

All three wickets. Two were bowled when left!! Ended up with 7fa

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[Hamingja]

Does he open there?

Pretty clear his best spot is opening and needs a bit longer to get going these days. We try to get too cute in BBL with 'specialist' positions in the batting order. Just get your highest ceiling batsmen at the crease the longest. Tim David at 6 is a waste, put him in at 3-4 and if he bats 10 overs you've won. If Stoin has anything left in the tank at all, he has to open or why bother. Send Maxwell out with him too

Agree that opening is Stoinis' best spot. David is not good enough to bat any higher though. He came in early a lot this season for Hobart and he can't build an innings, he is just an out and out slogger.

 

[burge13]

Agree that opening is Stoinis' best spot. David is not good enough to bat any higher though. He came in early a lot this season for Hobart and he can't build an innings, he is just an out and out slogger.

Don't disagree but when he comes off and hits 25 off 10 it changes an innings. Why have him at 6 where quite often he doesn't even get a hit...

He also won't get better without time in the middle

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Don't disagree but when he comes off and hits 25 off 10 it changes an innings. Why have him at 6 where quite often he doesn't even get a hit...

He also won't get better without time in the middle

Doesn't have the technique to bat higher, people think T20 is just a sloggers game, the top batsmen actually have technique. I'd like David to be coming in with 7-8 overs left and not 3-4 though, list him at 6 and float him up and down depending.

 

[cats_09]

Agree that opening is Stoinis' best spot. David is not good enough to bat any higher though. He came in early a lot this season for Hobart and he can't build an innings, he is just an out and out slogger.

David is like Sutherland, and their teams need to be flexible with how they are used

• you don't want them coming in too early and having to anchor 2/3rds or 3/4qtrs of the innings
• don't want them coming in too late where they "have to go" from ball one, as they barely had success doing so this past season

Need to have the flexibility to bump them up the order so they come in with 5 or 6 overs to go, the chance to have a few sighters before launching into their innings

It feels like some teams are too rigid with their batting order which can few a hindrance

 

[corbies]

Don't disagree but when he comes off and hits 25 off 10 it changes an innings. Why have him at 6 where quite often he doesn't even get a hit...

He also won't get better without time in the middle

Just for interest I thought I'd look at Tim David's BBL this year with the batting position, the over he came in and what he scored:

Batting Position - Over - Score

5 - 8th - 1 (4)
4 - 2nd - 12 (8)
5 - 18th - 12* (13)
6 - 13th - 1 (2)
6 - 18th - 6* (5)
7 - 9th - 27 (21)
7 - 7th - 15 (18)
6 - 15th - 22 (10)
4 - 15th - 16 (7)

The only match he didn't bat in was because Hobart chased 150 against Sydney Green 3 down and with 2 overs left.

Make of that what you will I guess.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yep 15th over is about right, personally may stretch that to 13th but I just personally don't think he has the technique to bat earlier

 

[NYRB]

Reading the Melbourne Stars social media about Stoinis 3 year deal- its fair to say not alot of their fans are happy about the deal.

Ive read one post saying it should be a 'performance based contract' for him.

He is purely living off his reputation, big muscle and own ego.

Im going to be controversial, its worser than the Buddy Franklin 9 year deal up in Sydney. Huge skepticism . For someone of Stoinis ilk if he had even 3 decent games in a BBL season with the team qualifying for the Finals- that would be worth whatever penny he is worth.

I feel selecting him hinders the Stars development of youth , when you took across the neighbour they have invested in youth eg Jake Fraser-McGurk and clearly at least are looking to the future.

 

[Tugga27]

Reading the Melbourne Stars social media about Stoinis 3 year deal- its fair to say not alot of their fans are happy about the deal.

Ive read one post saying it should be a 'performance based contract' for him.

He is purely living off his reputation, big muscle and own ego.

Im going to be controversial, its worser than the Buddy Franklin 9 year deal up in Sydney. Huge skepticism . For someone of Stoinis ilk if he had even 3 decent games in a BBL season with the team qualifying for the Finals- that would be worth whatever penny he is worth.

I feel selecting him hinders the Stars development of youth , when you took across the neighbour they have invested in youth eg Jake Fraser-McGurk and clearly at least are looking to the future.

Buddy's contract was good for both him and Sydney.

 

[magpiemaniac44]

Reading the Melbourne Stars social media about Stoinis 3 year deal- its fair to say not alot of their fans are happy about the deal.

Ive read one post saying it should be a 'performance based contract' for him.

He is purely living off his reputation, big muscle and own ego.

Im going to be controversial, its worser than the Buddy Franklin 9 year deal up in Sydney. Huge skepticism . For someone of Stoinis ilk if he had even 3 decent games in a BBL season with the team qualifying for the Finals- that would be worth whatever penny he is worth.

I feel selecting him hinders the Stars development of youth , when you took across the neighbour they have invested in youth eg Jake Fraser-McGurk and clearly at least are looking to the future.

Yes Stoinis isn't in great form and he could be near the end. But he has produced many great T20 knocks for the Stars and Australia over the last few years, and he is still in the national set up, so clearly Australian selectors also don't think he is 'washed'.

 

[010203]

Does he open there?

Pretty clear his best spot is opening and needs a bit longer to get going these days. We try to get too cute in BBL with 'specialist' positions in the batting order. Just get your highest ceiling batsmen at the crease the longest. Tim David at 6 is a waste, put him in at 3-4 and if he bats 10 overs you've won. If Stoin has anything left in the tank at all, he has to open or why bother. Send Maxwell out with him too

Stoinis has batted at 5 or 6 for the Durban Super Giants. He's an opener or he's useless as far as I'm concerned.

 

[NYRB]

Stoinis has batted at 5 or 6 for the Durban Super Giants. He's an opener or he's useless as far as I'm concerned.

He looks snail pace compared to : Breetzke and Klaasen.

Im not sure with Stoinis in the form he is in the moment, he could come out and swing from ball one in a powerplay. He isnt middling anything at the moment.

DSG made a mistake in the SA20, by batting Stoinis ahead of Klaasen, which is bewildering. I dont think they will be making the same mistake again.

 

[western royboy]

Reading the Melbourne Stars social media about Stoinis 3 year deal- its fair to say not alot of their fans are happy about the deal.

Ive read one post saying it should be a 'performance based contract' for him.

He is purely living off his reputation, big muscle and own ego.

Im going to be controversial, its worser than the Buddy Franklin 9 year deal up in Sydney. Huge skepticism . For someone of Stoinis ilk if he had even 3 decent games in a BBL season with the team qualifying for the Finals- that would be worth whatever penny he is worth.

I feel selecting him hinders the Stars development of youth , when you took across the neighbour they have invested in youth eg Jake Fraser-McGurk and clearly at least are looking to the future.

No we are not - he’s 34 just come off a puss season again 169 runs and gets a 3 year deal??? The bloke running this show drinks his own bath water

 

[bigDoggLekker]

No we are not - he’s 34 just come off a puss season again 169 runs and gets a 3 year deal??? The bloke running this show drinks his own bath water

Think the Stars are sniffing around Max Bryant too


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[Perty4]

Think the Stars are sniffing around Max Bryant too


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Apparently Stoinis had leverage with Perth & Hobart interested, strange call to give him 3 years though.

 

[ioppolo]

Apparently Stoinis had leverage with Perth & Hobart interested, strange call to give him 3 years though.

Would've been such a Hobart move to sign Stoinis.

 

[010203]

Get your recruitment right, get rid of players who need to ship off and you can win a title. Ian Healy's comment about Chris Lynn is spot on too for what it's worth.

Kings of the Bash: The story behind the Heat's renaissance | cricket.com.au

 

[Cleavy]

Think the Stars are sniffing around Max Bryant too


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to replace Joe Burns?

 

[largebus]

Get your recruitment right, get rid of players who need to ship off and you can win a title. Ian Healy's comment about Chris Lynn is spot on too for what it's worth.

Kings of the Bash: The story behind the Heat's renaissance | cricket.com.au

Why was Boof coach of just the BBL side? It sounds like they felt sorry for him losing the national job.
Having one coach and staff for all formats is probably the biggest advantage teams outside Vic and NSW have and they didnt take it.

It'd be hard to develop players like Xavier Bartlett when he goes from Bulls training sessions to XXXX gold and pies with Boof at the Heat.

 

[Perty4]

Why was Boof coach of just the BBL side? It sounds like they felt sorry for him losing the national job.
Having one coach and staff for all formats is probably the biggest advantage teams outside Vic and NSW have and they didnt take it.

It'd be hard to develop players like Xavier Bartlett when he goes from Bulls training sessions to XXXX gold and pies with Boof at the Heat.

Isnt Seccombe coach ?

 

[largebus]

Isnt Seccombe coach ?

He is, which is why I said why was Boof the Heat coach when you already had Seccombe at the Bulls.
They've obviously changed it now but it was ridiculous they split up the roles in the first place.

 

[western royboy]

Apparently Stoinis had leverage with Perth & Hobart interested, strange call to give him 3 years though.

 

[cats_09]

Should be looking to re-sign Harvey & O’Neill, and maybe Wells to keep some experience in our batting line-up

Happy to pass on the other out of contract options

 

[Cleavy]

this is what the Herald Sun article behind the paywall is saying:
Alex Ross returns to Strikers
Hamish McKenzie interest from Stars/Sixers
Josh Brown to Renegades?
Nic Maddinson no contract