Prediction Best 22 for Round 1, 2023

[WCErevival]

Duggan defintely plays if he is fit. He's been talked about as a potential future captain so I doubt he misses round 1.

 

[ArdentEagle]

FB Hough Barrass Hurn
HB Yeo Mcgovern Hunt
C Gaff Culley Sheed
HF Cripps Allen Jones
FF Ryan Darling Williams
R Nicnat Shuey Kelly
I Duggan Chesser O'Niell Petrucelle

Now this is not who I would pick or where I would pick them. It's just what I see happening

Who would you pick them mate?

 

[ArdentEagle]

Duggan defintely plays if he is fit. He's been talked about as a potential future captain so I doubt he misses round 1.

Personally - I'm not 100% sold on him. He's too inconsistent, now 26 so he should have that sorted if he's going to hit the next level.

 

[Obeanie1]

Personally - I'm not 100% sold on him. He's too inconsistent, now 26 so he should have that sorted if he's going to hit the next level.

When Duggan gets match fit he hits the next level. Knee issue has been around for a year or two now and he has struggled to get it 100%. Maybe hit 95% and played some decent games and then tweeks something.

Hense lacks consistenacy with his output.

 

[Obeanie1]

Almost need to put up three sides.

1. Our best side if all players are 100% fit. Best most competitive team.
2. Expected round 1 team factoring in injuries, fitness and starting with best team available.
3. The team we may see in the final 6-8 rounds if in full development mode.

If we are in full development mode the last two mo the of the season is the really interesting set up.

 

[Kegs15]

Duggan defintely plays if he is fit. He's been talked about as a potential future captain so I doubt he misses round 1.

I'd pick him if we were playing a final round 1, or maybe even if we were a top 8 lock or something next year and needed to push a stable senior list.

But recent form wise and with the direction we're taking the list would love to see him as a young leader win his place back with some undeniable form and confidence in the WAFL. He will be a mentor for the younger guys so reckon that'll be valuable, and not sure he's a lock on last season's form.

Similar line of thinking to what Obeanie1 suggested about different teams for different priorities/points of our development across the year

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Duggan was fifth in the B&F despite battling a knee injury for a chunk of the season.

Fair to say the match committee won’t be asking him to win his place back through the WAFL at the start of next season.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Hurn Barrass Cole
Hunt McGovern Duggan
Gaff Kelly Sheed
Cripps Darling Jones
Ryan Allen Waterman

Naitanui Yeo Shuey

Hough Petrucelle Williams O’Neill + West

A bit boring right? Not at all outlandish though. Could very well be the direction they go early if everyone is fit and available, shuffle of positions a bit no doubt.

Fair to say there will be melts for daaaaays if NONE of Culley, Hewett, Ginbey or Chesser get a run in R1.

There will be tears.

 

[LittleFires]

Duggan was fifth in the B&F despite battling a knee injury for a chunk of the season.

Fair to say the match committee won’t be asking him to win his place back through the WAFL at the start of next season.

Also had literally no preseason from that PCL surgery and was only called up for that round 2 game against North because he was somewhat match fit.

The plan was originally for him to play a few games in the WAFL first to get his touch back before easing his way back into the seniors.

 

[Obeanie1]

Hurn Barrass Cole
Hunt McGovern Duggan
Gaff Kelly Sheed
Cripps Darling Jones
Ryan Allen Waterman

Naitanui Yeo Shuey

Hough Petrucelle Williams O’Neill + West

A bit boring right? Not at all outlandish though. Could very well be the direction they go early if everyone is fit and available, shuffle of positions a bit no doubt.

Fair to say there will be melts for daaaaays if NONE of Culley, Hewett, Ginbey or Chesser get a run in R1.

There will be tears.

Waterman likely wont be fit by round 1.

Petrucelle needs a very good preseason to win a round 1 spot, already had a calf or hammie twinge.

Injuries or players building fitness and not being as advanced as others will also play a part.

So two players you have there likely wont be fit, add another who isnt quite ready and we have three spots open up for Culley, Chesser plus ?

 

[Dark Sharks]

Looking forward to Naitanui coming through the WAFL too, amirite!



I'm for putting credits in the bin as much as anyone, but let's be real. Duggan and Gaff will be playing round 1 (unfortunately).

Sheed you could make a case for coming through the WAFL, in favour of Culley for example, but it's still unlikely. Dom's played 1 game since August 2021 so i wouldn't be surprised if he's a bit rusty in the praccy games. For sure he's still getting picked before Ginbey or Hewett though. Even off the HFF.

 

[Kegs15]

Duggan was fifth in the B&F despite battling a knee injury for a chunk of the season.

Fair to say the match committee won’t be asking him to win his place back through the WAFL at the start of next season.

Look won't pretend it's what I actually think the MC will do - not their style. That's maybe the difference in this thread between what we predict the actual round 1 team the MC name will be and who we'd personally like to be starting round 1 - I'm maybe coming from the latter direction but no arguments with you on the former.

I'm a Duggan fan but through injury I don't think the 5th place BnF reflected his down output within games - he played 20 games (lot more than others last year) and came 10th in our bigfooty voted one. Did us a huge favour soldiering on for us so I'd also be happy if that was to be rewarded but I really don't think his form was excellent. Am certainly confident he'll at some point hit a stage where he's exceeding his game to game output last year.

Throwing Sheed into the mix as a similar/perhaps more appropriate case, my general line of thinking is that these guys are the future senior leaders (whether in official roles or not) that'll be there when our current U21 crop is starting to hit their straps. The impression/standards we set for our draftees this year to me is one of the most important things going into this season.

It could be a great influence for those younger players if a Sheed or Duggan doesn't get picked and gets a chance to show them some leadership about it, eg "Yep, I reckon at my best I'm best 22 but understand I'm not a NicNat auto selection. I understand I've had some niggles with injury and I know if I'm going to contribute to us being a great side I want to be in good form and have confidence in my body. I'm entirely happy to play WAFL with you younger boys, set some standards there and earn my spot just like you'll be doing in your first year, whilst Culley/Clark etc are only in their second year but cause they've been in ripping nick they're already getting picked for round 1, so that's attainable for you guys if you put the work in".

Duggan/Sheed etc should still hopefully be around when we're next challenging, would love to set standards now of not necessarily binning credits but more that when there's enough players available, even B22 leaders can take some time to build confidence in their bodies. Our current senior leaders like Shuey, Gov, Hurn, Kennedy last year have all been absolute stars and outside Barrass/Allen our next wave aren't as elite and might need to lead in a slightly different style as players - this could be a good opportunity to show that leadership in a development year.

By round 3/4 I'd expect both to be playing anyway and playing well, regardless, and I do know the MC won't go in this direction - I just reckon there's perhaps something to be gained outside of whatever Duggan's round 1 output on-field may be.

 

[Spooky17]

Culley must play round one.

He’s channeled his inner jubilant Masto and trained down all the houses this preseason.



He’s set himself up for a good year. I’ve got high hopes for Jai.

 

[Obeanie1]

sheed, gaff, shuey, hurn, nat, cripps, mcgovern, take your pick

So sack 3 or 4 players in contract?

And what do we do with that $2m in freed up cap space?

Pay some players more than they are worth?

We landed one FA would have been unlikely to land two.

We wanted to retain picks so trading in an expensive player to use the free cap space on would have cost good picks.

So your suggestion lacks insight somewhat.

 

[bzparkes]

So sack 3 or 4 players in contract?

And what do we do with that $2m in freed up cap space?

Pay some players more than they are worth?

We landed one FA would have been unlikely to land two.

We wanted to retain picks so trading in an expensive player to use the free cap space on would have cost good picks.

So your suggestion lacks insight somewhat.

Nah mate, sack everyone over 27yo.

 

[Goomba1973]

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I like Yeo back at HB
I'd swap Duggan and Hunt as we need Hunts run and ball carry from half back to speed up our play.
This centre line needs pace with skills or a ball magnet bull with quick and accurate hands. Gaff, if he is a receiver is ok, but if is coal facing it he might as well be in the magoos.
I would not be surprised to see both Hewett and Ginbey play round 1.

 

[Keystone agony]

D7
Hunt - Barrass - Cole
Hurn - Gov - Duggan (Hough)

M8
Gaff - Yeo - Chesser (G.Clark/Culley)
NicNat - Shuey - T.Kelly (Sheed)

F7
Cripps - J.Darling - E.Hewett
L.Ryan - O.Allen - B.Williams (J.Jones/Petrucelle)

Issue some might see is having Clark or Culley as mainly a wing rotation. Where Culleys definitely more suited onball and same can probably be said for G.Clark aswell.

Maybe a chance both Petruccele and J.Jones can be in the same forward 7 and Cripps plays on the wing more

Other way could be Yeo back 7, Hough wing. Culley/Clark onball

I know most will say just put Sheed wing but i think hes going to be getting alot of inside time. I cant see that not occuring

 

[dinnaz]

Guys what do we think of SPS.
Wheres his best position?

 

[Grahame]

Guys what do we think of SPS.
Wheres his best position?

Sadly, depth. 25yo. 108 games. Two clubs. Not able to nail down a position. We have 25+ players with <20 games.

 

[kaiserchief13]

There will be some injuries to some players who would play round 1, so it is basically impossible to be 100% accurate

B: Hurn, Barrass, Cole
HB: Hunt, McGovern, Duggan
C: Sheed, Kelly, Chesser
HF: Cripps, Darling, Petrucelli
F: Ryan, Allen, Jones
R: Naitanui, Shuey, Culley
I: Williams (Ruck), Hewett (M), Hough (D/M), SPS (F) - unsure who else this could be?
S: XON

 

[bh90210fan]

This is the team 100%

FB - Hurn - Barrass - Duggan
HB - Cole - McGovern - Hunt
C - Gaff - Yeo - Chesser
HF - Cripps - Allen - Sheed
FF - Ryan - Darling - Petrucelle
R - Naitanui - Shuey - Kelly

I - Hough - Culley - Jones - BWilliams

 

[ArdentEagle]

Guys what do we think of SPS.
Wheres his best position?

I'd say inside mid but he won't be played there.

 

[WCErevival]

Guys what do we think of SPS.
Wheres his best position?

Left out.

 

[shooshka]

D7
Hunt - Barrass - Cole
Hurn - Gov - Duggan (Hough)

M8
Gaff - Yeo - Chesser (G.Clark/Culley)
NicNat - Shuey - T.Kelly (Sheed)

F7
Cripps - J.Darling - E.Hewett
L.Ryan - O.Allen - B.Williams (J.Jones/Petrucelle)

Issue some might see is having Clark or Culley as mainly a wing rotation. Where Culleys definitely more suited onball and same can probably be said for G.Clark aswell.

Maybe a chance both Petruccele and J.Jones can be in the same forward 7 and Cripps plays on the wing more

Other way could be Yeo back 7, Hough wing. Culley/Clark onball

I know most will say just put Sheed wing but i think hes going to be getting alot of inside time. I cant see that not occuring

I think the bolded is what we should do (as a club I can see the desire to get Yeo back as an inside mid, but if the most his body can withstand is being a HBF then we shouldn't have any hesitation doing that - he's arguably better there anyway!)

The forward line is interesting as well. Allen and Darling obviously the talls, but do we then opt to play Ryan as the 3rd marking player (prior to Waterman potentially returning) or go all-out with a resting ruckman down there? With all of the talk of our midfield being our biggest weakness, with the drafts we have had recently we do now need to focus on our forward line as we really have 4 auto-selections (2 of whom are over 30), then shoehorning the other 3 in. Hopefully this is the year we do see some of our mids 'rest' forward, as it will solve any number of issues (more talent in the forward half, open up some mid time for draftees, look after older bodies, etc etc).

 

[Keystone agony]

I think the bolded is what we should do (as a club I can see the desire to get Yeo back as an inside mid, but if the most his body can withstand is being a HBF then we shouldn't have any hesitation doing that - he's arguably better there anyway!)

The forward line is interesting as well. Allen and Darling obviously the talls, but do we then opt to play Ryan as the 3rd marking player (prior to Waterman potentially returning) or go all-out with a resting ruckman down there? With all of the talk of our midfield being our biggest weakness, with the drafts we have had recently we do now need to focus on our forward line as we really have 4 auto-selections (2 of whom are over 30), then shoehorning the other 3 in. Hopefully this is the year we do see some of our mids 'rest' forward, as it will solve any number of issues (more talent in the forward half, open up some mid time for draftees, look after older bodies, etc etc).

Reckon the resting run will be required early. Id think eagles would want to keep Allen fwd and away from the ruck and NicNat can only handle about 60% in there now

40% needs to be someone other than Allen imo, unless they come up with something different like a tall mid in the Grigg, Dunkley ect mould that weve seen in the past from other clubs

And then i think its being in the ear of Georgiades and trading away your top pick end this year for him. Clearly already in his ear