Bluemour Discussion Thread VIII

[Aphrodite]

Fair enough. That's your opinion and you've clearly made your mind up.

It's not worth argunig the point anyway because it's so unlikely to happen. I just don't buy into SOS paying overs for a player they don't need, like Gaff or McGovern.

The season hasn't even started and it's only a rumour.

I'm sure we will hear heaps more leading up to the trade period as we normally do.

Most rumours don't eventuate, hence being rumours.

 

[Nori]

The season hasn't even started and it's only a rumour.

I'm sure we will hear heaps more leading up to the trade period as we normally do.

Most rumours don't eventuate, hence being rumours.

So don't both discussing rumours then? Got it.

 

[Aphrodite]

So don't both discussing rumours then? Got it.

Where did I say that.

 

[Blue since 72]

I dont see at lot of the Eagles, is he the one that is always ducking for free kicks ??

That would be Shuey.

 

[AceAndy]

That would be Shuey.

Yes thats the bloke i was thinking of.

 

[Jabba73]

Yes thats the bloke i was thinking of.

To be fair, it is part of their kulcha and a lot of them do it.

Luckily for them the umpires think they are Darlings and pay the fees the crowd picks out for them.

 

[katmanblue]

Juddy?

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[AceAndy]

To be fair, it is part of their kulcha and a lot of them do it.

Luckily for them the umpires think they are Darlings and pay the fees the crowd picks out for them.

You are right a lot of them do it , ducking that is. Shuey seems to be one of the more prevalent.

 

[PrinceCharles]

Nope rethink and try again.

You need to keep injecting 17-18yo through the draft and top up on UFA not RFA ...... If its a RFA ... you wanna make sure its BEST fit (ie match winner or at least the missing link).

Keeps the list ticking over from the base we have built. (20-23 yo age bracket)

Do this smartly and we should sell the secret to all and sundry for a price .... lol

That's literally what he said.

 

[katmanblue]

Honestly didn't read Surrey ..... too quick on the trigger.

Pretty sure there's a nasal spray for that.

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[Aphrodite]

Nope rethink and try again.

You need to keep injecting 17-18yo through the draft and top up on UFA not RFA ...... If its a RFA ... you wanna make sure its BEST fit (ie match winner or at least the missing link).

Keeps the list ticking over from the base we have built. (20-23 yo age bracket)

Do this smartly and we should sell the secret to all and sundry for a price .... lol

We don't do that here.

 

[The Dominator7]

Nice Bluemour!!

Gaff seems the most likely to me and could be done in a way so as not to cost us a draft pick as he is a RFA after all and Eagles could match.

Hypothetically

• Eagles miss the 8, which is most likely given their midfield
• No first rounder in 2018 supposed "super draft"
• No-one likely to trade a pick in the top 10 for Gaff in this draft
• Eagles likely to match an offer that only generates band 2 compo
• We heavily frontload the first 2 years of a 4 year contract - I recall reading recently that the AFL only look at the first 2 years when deciding free agent compo - E.g (something like) $800k / $700k / $250k x 2 = $2m over 4 years - pretty reasonable for an AA winger
• We get Eagles back into the top 10 - they're happy
• We keep our 1st rounder - we're happy

Trick now is to get Gaff to nominate as as no doubt those clubs with Salary Cap space will try similar type thing!!

 

[Aphrodite]

Bluemour said 'certain free agent in the West'.
May not necessarily be West Coast.

Which FA do Freo have?

 

[AndyWalkersGirl]

Not McGovern?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/je...t/news-story/c0a53d710f75df32b363633f03ce9c75

 

[The Toad]

All I can say is that if we serve up the same shite in Rnd 1 Bitchmond will beat us by 500 goals.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Bluemour said 'certain free agent in the West'.
May not necessarily be West Coast.

Which FA do Freo have?

Sandilands & Mundy. I think you can safely bet that Gaff is the one being referred to in this instance.

 

[Aphrodite]

Sandilands & Mundy. I think you can safely bet that Gaff is the one being referred to in this instance.

Just mentioning the other option SOAP.

I haven't looked at the FA's available at other Clubs this year.




Edit: Just checked

West Coast FA's:-
Andrew Gaff
Shannon Hurn
Scott Lycett
Jeremy McGovern


Freo FA's:-
David Mundy
Aaron Sandilands

 

[Metalcrusher]

Bluemour said 'certain free agent in the West'.
May not necessarily be West Coast.

Which FA do Freo have?

Fremantle Players Out of Contract in 2018 Fremantle Player Contracts
Name Years Service Status
Aaron Sandilands 16 Unrestricted Free Agent
Bailey Banfield 1 Non-Free Agent
Cameron Sutcliffe 7 Non-Free Agent
Danyle Pearce 6 Non-Free Agent
Ethan Hughes 4 Non-Free Agent
Griffin Logue 2 Non-Free Agent
Hayden Ballantyne 10 Unrestricted Free Agent
Lee Spurr 7 Non-Free Agent
Michael Apeness 5 Non-Free Agent
Michael Johnson 15 Unrestricted Free Agent
Ryan Nyhuis 3 Non-Free Agent
Stefan Giro 1 Non-Free Agent

West Coast Players Out of Contract in 2018 West Coast Player Contracts
Name Years Service Status
Andrew Gaff 8 Restricted Free Agent
Callan England 1 Non-Free Agent
Eric MacKenzie 12 Unrestricted Free Agent
Francis Watson 2 Non-Free Agent
Fraser McInnes 7 Non-Free Agent
Jake Waterman 2 Non-Free Agent
Jamie Cripps 6 Non-Free Agent
Jeremy McGovern 8 Restricted Free Agent
Josh Rotham 2 Non-Free Agent
Liam Duggan 4 Non-Free Agent
Malcolm Karpany 5 Non-Free Agent
Mark Hutchings 6 Non-Free Agent
Mark Lecras 14 Unrestricted Free Agent
Ryan Burrows 1 Non-Free Agent
Scott Lycett 8 Restricted Free Agent
Tarir Bayok 2 Non-Free Agent
Tony Olango 1 Non-Free Agent
Willie Rioli 2 Non-Free Agent

 

[BIuebagger]

Cripps, Kennedy, E. Curnow, Murphy, Petrevski-Seton as our starting 5. Dow, Fisher, Cuningham, Lang as rotational midfield players with O'Brien, Kerridge, Polson, Graham, Shaw as depth.

First thing that pops out is how young that group is, which is exciting, although lacks experience. Second, is how great it would be to add a few outside mids that are quality. Gaff fits the bill and I wouldn't mind us going for him at all.

Damaging outside player with ball in hand. Those who watch him consistently enough though, my main issue is whether he runs back to defend often enough as a winger? Our system, which focuses on team oriented set ups, relies a lot on our midfielders working back without the ball to become part of the defensive unit. If he is good at doing this, then I am all for it at the right price. I know he is a good accumulator of the ball and is damaging with ball in hand, would say that would be the main reason we would be interested recruiting him, as we are still needing to improve outside run.

Personally, have a dip at Lynch and see what happens. If not, save our money for another season and do what we have been doing one more time this upcoming trade period with the young talented out-of-contract players. Then go for these top tier players, e.g. Shiel's and Kelly's, that will be the big ticket items when we are about to take the next step forward again - which will be middle to end of the 2019 season I feel.

 

[The Bighouse]

Not McGovern?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/je...t/news-story/c0a53d710f75df32b363633f03ce9c75

May be playing the field for more coin to stay west but still open to offers. A Dusty scenario more likely to top up as the season plays out.

 

[HBF]

Has to be about Gaff.
If we've got the money we may as well spend it.

 

[smashbox gill]

Nice Bluemour!!

Gaff seems the most likely to me and could be done in a way so as not to cost us a draft pick as he is a RFA after all and Eagles could match.

Hypothetically

• Eagles miss the 8, which is most likely given their midfield
• No first rounder in 2018 supposed "super draft"
• No-one likely to trade a pick in the top 10 for Gaff in this draft
• Eagles likely to match an offer that only generates band 2 compo
• We heavily frontload the first 2 years of a 4 year contract - I recall reading recently that the AFL only look at the first 2 years when deciding free agent compo - E.g (something like) $800k / $700k / $250k x 2 = $2m over 4 years - pretty reasonable for an AA winger
• We get Eagles back into the top 10 - they're happy
• We keep our 1st rounder - we're happy

Trick now is to get Gaff to nominate as as no doubt those clubs with Salary Cap space will try similar type thing!!

Very good analysis. Would be a great way of eagles getting back into the first round.

 

[ParapMarkets]

Doubt McGovern would leave WA

Has anyone considered it maybe someone other than Gaff or McGovern, say a Lycett? A 26 year old (start of next year) Ruck/Forward wouldn't go astray and fits the age profile

I really hope we wouldn't be going for more back up rucks at this stage, I can see another young developing ruck but not another back up with lobbe and Phillips already there.

 

[thylacine60]

Not McGovern?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/je...t/news-story/c0a53d710f75df32b363633f03ce9c75

yes please

 

[thylacine60]

Has to be about Gaff.
If we've got the money we may as well spend it.

I keep saying that to my partner when she asks if I wanna order dessert.