Rumour Bluemour Discussion thread

[Dramoth]

Just wondering Daromth, whom would place ahead of SPS and Ainsworth?

SPS is based on what I saw of him last year. Remember that the majority of the U18s crop of WA players were all actually U17s so we got to see a bunch of WA kids early. I will make a more learned evaluation over the course of the year

But so far, SPS is probably the best of the WA kids.

 

[Heres Waite]

Didn't we all hope that at one stage?

Crows supporters genuinely believe it. I hate to break it to them.

 

[Jimmae]

6"2" is 188cm and those blokes you mention under 185cms need to have tricks if you're that size but the other issue with that list is other than Buckley they're quite slow for small mids

You're working off a number of assumptions there, but in terms of 90% of the draftees that come in, they're generally safe if they're over 177 cms.

It's generally a case of being too short for a given role and something else key missing from your game, whether it be pace, strength, kicking, etc.

A certain athletic profile has been overvalued for quite a while, which is why some teams are finding gold in the third round with names like Caleb Daniel, though I suspect that will adjust in upcoming drafts, as you can already see with someone like Kieran Lovell going to the Hawks in the first round.

 

[Blue Baggers]

You're working off a number of assumptions there, but in terms of 90% of the draftees that come in, they're generally safe if they're over 177 cms.

It's generally a case of being too short for a given role and something else key missing from your game, whether it be pace, strength, kicking, etc.

A certain athletic profile has been overvalued for quite a while, which is why some teams are finding gold in the third round with names like Caleb Daniel, though I suspect that will adjust in upcoming drafts, as you can already see with someone like Kieran Lovell going to the Hawks in the first round.

I have no issue with picking a small bloke who is a gun however I'm taking a big mid over a small mid every day of the week. If you have a 6"6" mid averaging 30 touches a game and a 5"2" mid averaging 30 touches a game who are you taking?

 

[Jimmae]

I have no issue with picking a small bloke who is a gun however I'm taking a big mid over a small mid every day of the week. If you have a 6"6" mid averaging 30 touches a game and a 5"2" mid averaging 30 touches a game who are you taking?

I'd want more info

 

[Blue Baggers]

I'd want more info

identical other than height

 

[Jimmae]

identical other than height

Assuming you mean identical athleticism, skills and output, then yeah you're going to pick the taller guy, but how often does that happen?

 

[Blue Baggers]

Assuming you mean identical athleticism, skills and output, then yeah you're going to pick the taller guy, but how often does that happen?

Not very but just proving a point. I wanted us to pick up Gresham in the draft so I'm not adverse to picking up small blokes but we have our fair share.

 

[Heres Waite]

If both players had an identical output and the only difference was height, why would it matter which one you took? They both have same influence on the game!

 

[Jimmae]

Not very but just proving a point. I wanted us to pick up Gresham in the draft so I'm not adverse to picking up small blokes but we have our fair share.

I'm fairly confident that we have one of the taller lists in the league.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Cripps is only (lol only) 6"4 1/2, i'd say 6"6 would be stretching it anyway, Cripps is about on the limit of the midfielder height spectrum. Blicavs would be the only one taller right? How tall is he, 6"5?

 

[Omega Blue]

identical other than height

If they're identical apart from height i'm picking the lil guy.
If you have a guy who's 188cm and 90kg and a bloke who's is 178cm and 90kg and they can run at the same pace the 178cm bloke will be a human wrecking ball with lower centre of gravity. The only advantage the tall guy has is he can reach higher which aids in making.

 

[Mezzoculo]

After watching 360 not convinced Tom Mitchell is staying a swan. He only talked about this year and wouldn't say I will be a swan in 2017.

A player giving nothing to the media during an interview? Quelle surprise...

 

[HARKER]

When you think about it, it's pretty clear we'd be targeting a quality young mid.

There's just not as much point selling the farm for a KPF yet, if we can't get the ball into the forward line, in a constructive fashion.
Let's get midfield finely tuned first and then finish it off with the bookends.

 

[RedFury]

So is this another player who will be linked heavily to us for a few months before announcing his preferred club is Collingwood?

 

[Jimmae]

If they're identical apart from height i'm picking the lil guy.
If you have a guy who's 188cm and 90kg and a bloke who's is 178cm and 90kg and they can run at the same pace the 178cm bloke will be a human wrecking ball with lower centre of gravity. The only advantage the tall guy has is he can reach higher which aids in making.

I was going to say this, but wanted the whole ceteris paribus debate to end.

 

[Jimmae]

When you think about it, it's pretty clear we'd be targeting a quality young mid.

There's just not as much point selling the farm for a KPF yet, if we can't get the ball into the forward line, in a constructive fashion.
Let's get midfield finely tuned first and then finish it off with the bookends.

We'll be chasing a KPD who's 196+ or has the spoiling reach of one, and an inside-leaning midfielder with above average disposal skills. The rest we'll just draft (including a ruck) or depth trade/sign.

 

[Omega Blue]

I'd like us to try and lure jack frost from Collingwood.
A set and forget full back in the Jamison mould.
Tom Mcdonald would be the dream however.

 

[thylacine60]

Build our own - F/S picks, Lance & Kouta wandered down from Lalor, Molly just wanted to use the club dunny. Think national, act local.

 

[AB_Blue]

Koooooouta !! Loved hearing that back when we were good and then again when we were really really bad [emoji3]

 

[ferrisb]

So is this another player who will be linked heavily to us for a few months before announcing his preferred club is Collingwood?

That is correct, KB.

 

[HBF]

Just wondering Daromth, whom would place ahead of SPS and Ainsworth?

FWIW, i'd take SPS ahead of Ainsworth.

 

[BluesRule]

Build our own - F/S picks, Lance & Kouta wandered down from Lalor, Molly just wanted to use the club dunny. Think national, act local.

The next SOS is a FF circa two years away.
Maybe Tomlinson will get pushed out at GWS, and if not then maybe Stewart, Marchbank or Patton will be available as GWS cannot play them all.

Plowman looks a good trade if he can get on the park - and can fill a tall defender with midfield rotations role.

If we could snag Mitchell it could lift our midfield dramatically, but if not there are some midfield gems in the draft this year that will be just as good as Mitchell in 2-3 years time and better in 5-8 years time.

WE just need to be patient and not throw our future away on injured or conditional quick fix opportunities.

 

[HARKER]

We'll be chasing a KPD who's 196+ or has the spoiling reach of one, and an inside-leaning midfielder with above average disposal skills. The rest we'll just draft (including a ruck) or depth trade/sign.

We'd like one no doubt, but where from?
Given we have such a great association with GWS, could have we possibly discussed Patton?

Other than that who? Stewart? Tomlinson doesn't fit that criteria. Tom Lynch is off the table.
I just don't think we'll be over-reaching if there's no-one there. It may just have to be next year.....or the year after.

 

[Jimmae]

We'd like one no doubt, but where from?
Given we have such a great association with GWS, could have we possibly discussed Patton?

Other than that who? Stewart? Tomlinson doesn't fit that criteria. Tom Lynch is off the table.
I just don't think we'll be over-reaching if there's no-one there. It may just have to be next year.....or the year after.

KPD, not KPF.

Hooker is a free agent this off-season. Chasing a KPF is an option if we shift Jones and one other senior name.