boats Boats BOATS! The Australian punditry needs to be put on a life raft and sunk in the Pacific.

[Better Loosen Up]

The Libs provide "fake" protection from "fake" threats.
Have been since the "reds under the beds" and the "Yellow Peril" days of Menzies, Howard, Abbott, Turnbull and now Slo-wit

I personally think in today's climate we need to be more careful than ever before when it comes to letting people into our country, refugees included. There are certainly some threats that are very real!

What are your thoughts on China's border protection?

 

[Maggie5]

What are your thoughts on China's border protection?

China never needed population growth which is why they introduced the one child policy (stopped in 2013).

 

[Better Loosen Up]

China never needed population growth which is why they introduced the one child policy (stopped in 2013).

You obviously know very little about China's border protection

 

[Maggie5]

You obviously know very little about China's border protection

You know even less about immigration.

 

[QuietB]

You obviously know very little about China's border protection

China built a wall. It didn’t work.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

You know even less about immigration.

Doubt it

 

[NSWCROW]

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Rather unfortunate surname...

 

[NSWCROW]

Rather unfortunate surname...

Real name - " Harry Muff "

 

[Nankervis brothers]

The bill changes nothing in terms of 'Operation Sovereign Borders' or the wider 'border protection regime.' ScoMo and the editors of every NewCorp paper know this. But they assume the electorate doesn't, and so are prepared to play on ignorance. Scaremongering is just how they roll. Chris Dore, Same Weir, Dutton and the like are praying right now that boats start coming. They want a new Tampa, some glimmer of hope for the May election. That's how ****ed they are.

 

[Hawk Dork]

People will be afraid to go to restaurants because of the boats

 

[sherb]

People will be afraid to go to restaurants because of the boats

I hope they look under their beds for a boat each night as well.

 

[The Passenger]

Hopefully the Libs go down "The boats" route for their upcoming campaign. It'll be a stark reminder to the electorate of how little policy ideas they actually have. They've been completely paralysed by the hard line conservatives in their ranks.

It's shame the best realistic governing alternative is the Labor Party, but there's at least half a chance of good governance there. I just hope Bill Shorten is held to account and not given the under the table wristy's Abbott was by his fanbois in the Murdoch press. The LNP is done - they had a chance and blew it harder than anyone could ever have imagined.

 

[Bestbird]

Would have thought that the chance to be relocated to the United States would be far more enticing to the boat smugglers

 

[Juddism]

Screechy racist scaremongering did not work for the Libs in the Victorian state election, and it won't work for them now.

the media needs to take a very clear position here and needs to call ScoMo and Co every time they run with this bullshit.

if this is the narrative for the upcoming election then we're all ****ed and it is incumbent on the media not to allow this to be the case.

 

[Pessimistic]

So in that case, every country is racist because they choose to protect their borders or just us?

Depends if your invaders are white European aupairs headed to rich families

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Well, to be fair, there has been a bit of a trend in recent times

How do you know how many boats have been turned back, how many have arrived, how many have been accepted?

The answer is, you don't because the numbers are kept secret

 

[Craven Morehead]

God never was very accurate.
Missed Katter and Pullmy Pantsdowns inbred electorates.

For an immigrant who owes a massive amount to the left, you are very right wing.
Or are you a fake?

Only 500,000 dead cattle and countless people in genuine need and despair in the Kennedy electorate.
But yeah, 'god' missed it.

 

[Balls In]

Well the taxpayer funded ABC has wheeled out article after article glorifying in this humaine policy, while at the same time attacking the govt over its claims it will restart the trade. The SMH wheeled out John Hewson of all people, to do the same. But Newscorp Newscorp Newscorp huh?

 

[Benny78]

Lets just put a ring of gas (like a giant gas ring element around the country) so when ships cross over it they sink.

 

[Carn The Berries]

The bill changes nothing in terms of 'Operation Sovereign Borders' or the wider 'border protection regime.' ScoMo and the editors of every NewCorp paper know this. But they assume the electorate doesn't, and so are prepared to play on ignorance. Scaremongering is just how they roll. Chris Dore, Same Weir, Dutton and the like are praying right now that boats start coming. They want a new Tampa, some glimmer of hope for the May election. That's how ****** they are.

I can't believe the ALP aren't focusing on this more... The bill only affects people who are currently detained FFS!! The nuts and bolts of legislation might be boring as bat s*** normally but Bill should stand out the front of Parliament with the Act (or proposed Act at this stage... Though even Morrison wouldn't be dumb enough to try and stop Royal Ascent) and explain that clearly to people... To be honest I think they're actually deliberately avoiding the discussion for fear of retribution from the left side of the party for being "Just as bad as the Libs"

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

I simply voiced my opinion just like you have repeatedly voiced yours.... and somehow my opinion on the state of both parties is categorically wrong and stupid?

Yes.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

The government is an absolute shambles even when delivering a bread and butter scare on Sky of all places, glad the guardian is signal boosting this:

The attorney general’s office released the transcript of his interview with Kieran Gilbert on Sky News this morning.
It includes this exchange between Christian Porter, as the first law officer and Gilbert:
Porter:
Well, what we do know is that there are 300 people who, it appears, have already got or are close to getting certification from the two doctors. Now we are in a race against time to try and go through each of those 300 to determine whether or not there are charges pending; whether or not they’re awaiting trial; whether or not they’re awaiting sentence; whether or not there are credible allegations; whether or not there’s credible intelligence that an offence may have been committed…
Gilbert:
Surely you have some understanding on these islands already?
Porter:
As I said in parliament yesterday, there’s been reporting and we are working through all of the cases that we think may be the subject of a medical transfer. But there’s reporting of a potential transferee on Manus Island charged with four counts of sexual penetration of a minor under the PNG Summary Offences and Crimes Against Children Act …
Gilbert:
So not convicted?
Porter:
Not convicted but…
Gilbert:
Alleged?
Porter:
But – alleged, if you want to put it that way.
Gilbert:
Well, that’s normally the way lawyers do it. Normally you do say alleged.
Porter:
Well, I would say charged with a serious offence.
Gilbert:
Okay, well, say charged but you can’t say rapist or criminal until they’re convicted. That’s the way the law works.
Porter:
Well, we’re – again, the point is this – that a person could be convicted of rape or murder but not yet sentenced and the minister…
Gilbert:
But have you got any evidence of that happening?
Porter:
Well, we are going through all of the people and we are in a race against time to do that. But the reality is that people who may have or have been charged or who are awaiting sentence or who are awaiting trial for serious criminal offences can now be brought to Australia and we have no ability to stop ….
Gilbert:
So 800 people are in limbo, in continuing limbo, on the basis of this esoteric argument that you have got no – you’ve given me no evidence this morning that there are any individuals in this circumstance.
Porter:
Well, there is…
Gilbert:
…convicted and awaiting sentence.
Porter:
Well, there are many people there who have been charged. There are people who are awaiting trial under sovereign criminal processes of PNG…
Gilbert:
How many?
Porter:
…and Nauru. Well, we are trying to ascertain that at the moment, Kieran. But the reality is this legislation was rammed through under a gag motion – we’re now becoming aware that there are 300 people who have already taken the preliminary steps to effect their transfer, and resources and the effort that it takes to have security checks on a person’s background to try and work out whether or not they’re subject to charge ….
Gilbert:
OK, well, on the basis of what we’ve worked out so far, you’ve got no evidence to suggest any of them have been convicted and awaiting sentence. So on that basis, shouldn’t the government, from here on in, say alleged or charged with as opposed to rapists, paedophiles, criminals?
Porter:
Well, we have used language, I think, in appropriate ways. I’ve very clearly set out in parliament, in question time, how the law works. Very clearly set it out. Now, if someone wants to argue.
Gilbert:
But it’d be nice if the government used the appropriate language – in the sense of alleged or charged with – as opposed to convicting the individuals before they have the right in court.
Porter:
Well, again, I can put to you quite clearly that someone can be convicted of a serious criminal offence and we have no discretion …
Gilbert:
But we don’t have any evidence of that. None.
Porter:
Well, we are trying to gather that evidence at the moment but we …
Gilbert:
Well, at that point, why did you make the argument?
Porter:
But Kieran, we did not bring this legislation into parliament. We did not effect this change. And the reality is that it puts us, our government, our border protection, our security intelligence agencies, under enormous time pressure to try and work out who in that list of 300 people – and it will be a larger list than that – may have these issues attached to them.

 

[Maggie5]

The government is an absolute shambles even when delivering a bread and butter scare on Sky of all places, glad the guardian is signal boosting this:

 

[Frank Bunn]

The upcoming LNP fear campaign will be a good indicator of the maturity or otherwise of the Australian population come election day.

The ALP Mediscare fear campaign nearly worked so Labor must be assuming something about the maturity or otherwise of the Australian population.