Bye bye Clarkson

[HTPunter]

Sicily penetrating the “zone” straight down the middle late in the game was comical. You may as well have 22 on the bench at that point (Sheez on field so he can mop up if the opposition ****s up of their own accord)

 

[travelli]

Can y'all please stop blaming the coaches as if we have a list capable of winning AFL games?

We don't.

There is no coach in the business that is going to get more from this group than clarkson. Must persist

 

[Epictetus]

Travelli GGF
That’s the 3 times in a row Sam Mitchell has pantsed & outcoached old man live in the past Clarko … with a worst list

This shit needs to stop.

You can't watch that game to today and come to this conclusion. This view that Clarkson is squandering a bunch of even good footballers is nonsense and pure emotional self preservation.

The players - with a few exceptions - are not nearly good enough. The end.

 

[RossHenshaw]

End it now …
There is a petition started already. I was outside gate 5 today & people were signing.
“ get rid of Clarko “
Sonia will have it on Monday @ 9am
Who’s signed ? Come on have the balls MF ?!! Half of u aren’t probably members?!!FFS

 

[Flawed Genius]

Travelli GGF
That’s the 3 times in a row Sam Mitchell has pantsed & outcoached old man live in the past Clarko … with a worst list

Ross - take a chill pill mate. Abuse of other posters needs to stop. Any more and it'll be a day off.

 

[Handsome.B.Wonderful]

Need new blood
New fresh coach with a modern game plan …players don’t give rats who Alister Clarkson is & what he’s done ?!
Half weren’t even born when when he won he’s last flag ?!#
Go away old man .

Half of our players weren’t born in 2015?

Sums this thread up.

 

[blackshadow]

Big Footy romance alert...have we ever had a BF wedding?

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We have on this board. I'm not going to name names though.

 

[DocSholl]

There is no coach in the business that is going to get more from this group than clarkson. Must persist

This is a bit of a cliche. I agree that we have to ride it out but he won his last flag nearly a decade ago, its not all that relevant now. This is the sort of thinking that gets you Malthouse at Carlton.

We need a modern innovative coach. Hopefully it's Clarkson because those sorts of assistants like McRae and Kingsley aren't touching us. We're a career killer.

 

[Mixed Results]

My greatest concern is that we're going to see Clarkson make the exact same mistake as David Noble.

David Noble started by instructing his players to use the corridor, but once the team started turning the ball over he week by week neutered our ball movement until we were left with the most uninspiring gameplan in AFL history.

It can be frustrating to see an opposition side have an easy score off of a misplaced kick into the corridor, but eventually there will be a week where 90% of those kicks are on target and we upset a strong opponent. With repetition to the gameplan and players learning their limitations, we would only ever keep improving.

Dialling back on the risk-taking brings a sense of predictability that AFL sides could beat into a pulp every day of the week. We play without any sense of randomness, and often the opposition looks like they are conducting a training session down back with how easily they intercept and rebound the ball.

I don't see how it's a style of football that's ever going to lead to wins. David Noble never adjusted and that 2022 side truly deserved to go 0-22. Clarkson not adjusting would be completely unacceptable.

I'm also concerned about a complete lack of leadership and football knowledge above the Viney/Clarkson tandem, as it's unacceptable to have this exact same scenario play out again. I wanted a CEO like Peter Bell who could hold the football departments accountable, but instead we went after Jen Watt who rivals Carl Dilena in her anonymity. I'm sure she is doing a great job at the commercial level, but this club needed to put all hands on deck when it came to rebuilding this great club.

Sonja Hood was 100% supportive of David Noble, until it was time to knife him in the back. Noble's ineptitude covered how poorly she handled that situation, as no support or feedback was ever provided until Geoff Walsh was brought in to perform a hit job.

Todd Viney is where the club stops with its leadership of the football department, and the fear is that his relationship with Clarkson makes him incapable of steering him in the right direction.

Clarkson is probably smart enough to come to this realisation on his own, but if there isn't a Watt, Hood, or Viney in his office this morning asking him to explain this past weekend's performance, then it shows that we as a club have learned nothing.

 

[DesertRoo]

My greatest concern is that we're going to see Clarkson make the exact same mistake as David Noble.

David Noble started by instructing his players to use the corridor, but once the team started turning the ball over he week by week neutered our ball movement until we were left with the most uninspiring gameplan in AFL history.

It can be frustrating to see an opposition side have an easy score off of a misplaced kick into the corridor, but eventually there will be a week where 90% of those kicks are on target and we upset a strong opponent. With repetition to the gameplan and players learning their limitations, we would only ever keep improving.

Dialling back on the risk-taking brings a sense of predictability that AFL sides could beat into a pulp every day of the week. We play without any sense of randomness, and often the opposition looks like they are conducting a training session down back with how easily they intercept and rebound the ball.

I don't see how it's a style of football that's ever going to lead to wins. David Noble never adjusted and that 2022 side truly deserved to go 0-22. Clarkson not adjusting would be completely unacceptable.

I'm also concerned about a complete lack of leadership and football knowledge above the Viney/Clarkson tandem, as it's unacceptable to have this exact same scenario play out again. I wanted a CEO like Peter Bell who could hold the football departments accountable, but instead we went after Jen Watt who rivals Carl Dilena in her anonymity. I'm sure she is doing a great job at the commercial level, but this club needed to put all hands on deck when it came to rebuilding this great club.

Sonja Hood was 100% supportive of David Noble, until it was time to knife him in the back. Noble's ineptitude covered how poorly she handled that situation, as no support or feedback was ever provided until Geoff Walsh was brought in to perform a hit job.

Todd Viney is where the club stops with its leadership of the football department, and the fear is that his relationship with Clarkson makes him incapable of steering him in the right direction.

Clarkson is probably smart enough to come to this realisation on his own, but if there isn't a Watt, Hood, or Viney in his office this morning asking him to explain this past weekend's performance, then it shows that we as a club have learned nothing.

 

[DocSholl]

The obsession with appointing an under-qualified Peter Bell as CEO is weird

 

[Mixed Results]

The obsession with appointing an under-qualified Peter Bell as CEO is weird

We needed football department experience in that role, which means the only names available would be under qualified.

Peter Bell may not be the perfect answer, but he is an example of somebody with that experience who clearly has aspirations to be an AFL CEO.

 

[Mixed Results]

The club employs a CCO and CFO, and are one of the few clubs that employ a President and CEO who don't have any experience in a football department.

It creates a void of accountability for the Viney and Clarkson duo.

 

[DocSholl]

The club employs a CCO and CFO, and are one of the few clubs that employ a President and CEO who don't have any experience in a football department.

It creates a void of accountability for the Viney and Clarkson duo.

We're also a tiny club where generating commercial income holds far more importance than others.

 

[shintemaster]

I'm also concerned about a complete lack of leadership and football knowledge above the Viney/Clarkson tandem, as it's unacceptable to have this exact same scenario play out again. I wanted a CEO like Peter Bell who could hold the football departments accountable, but instead we went after Jen Watt who rivals Carl Dilena in her anonymity. I'm sure she is doing a great job at the commercial level, but this club needed to put all hands on deck when it came to rebuilding this great club.

Yeah she's great. Kicked out half of our premium members to sell corporate packages which will no doubt be flying off the shelves to watch a team that never wins a game of football...

 

[Horizons_00]

He is not concerned with winning?

This has definitely transferred to the playing group lol

 

[RightWingRoo]

The problem is the playing group and overall culture of the club.
This group has caused Rhyce to have a nervous breakdown and made Noble look like clueless twit (which he probably was anyway to be fair). Now they're embarrassing a 4 time premiership coach, there's no where to hide behind.
They're too s***, dumb and lazy to be able to nail down any game plan they're asked to execute. They never play for any coach longer than a few weeks, even poor old Ratts looked exhausted after his stint.

Clarko hasn't coached well this year, but this group eats everyone who tries.
It seems the only option they might be capable of executing is an ultra simple 1v1 all over ground. At least then no one can point fingers at anyone else, if their man gets away.

We need a coach like Clarko with a secure legacy, who can the hits while tossing out those dragging the club down and building a proper professional culture from scratch.
The near enough is good enough, winning doesn't really matter culture that developed under Scotts is what is killing us. It drags down everyone eventually and kills hope and belief.

 

[King Corey]

The problem is the playing group and overall culture of the club.
This group has caused Rhyce to have a nervous breakdown and made Noble look like clueless twit (which he probably was anyway to be fair). Now they're embarrassing a 4 time premiership coach, there's no where to hide behind.
They're too s***, dumb and lazy to be able to nail down any game plan they're asked to execute. They never play for any coach longer than a few weeks, even poor old Ratts looked exhausted after his stint.

Clarko hasn't coached well this year, but this group eats everyone who tries.
It seems the only option they might be capable of executing is an ultra simple 1v1 all over ground. At least then no one can point fingers at anyone else, if their man gets away.

We need a coach like Clarko with a secure legacy, who can the hits while tossing out those dragging the club down and building a proper professional culture from scratch.
The near enough is good enough, winning doesn't really matter culture that developed under Scotts is what is killing us. It drags down everyone eventually and kills hope and belief.

I welcome the analysis but Rhyce Shaw's issues at any level are not the clubs fault.

Other than us all falling for his unsustainable sugar hit football.

 

[RightWingRoo]

I welcome the analysis but Rhyce Shaw's issues at any level are not the clubs fault.

Other than us all falling for his unsustainable sugar hit football.

I'm glad to hear that, in a morbid way.
Had felt guilty that the club caused his issues.

 

[DesertRoo]

Yeah she's great. Kicked out half of our premium members to sell corporate packages which will no doubt be flying off the shelves to watch a team that never wins a game of football...

Genuine Charity muggers we have on our hands, their care not for members of the club.
No doubt the clipboards are out in force chasing around everyone in the city.

 

[RossHenshaw]

Yeah she's great. Kicked out half of our premium members to sell corporate packages which will no doubt be flying off the shelves to watch a team that never wins a game of football...

this is so bad...

 

[RossHenshaw]

Last wild card for Clarko coming up this weekend. Sheezel to a fulltime midfield role apparently.

 

[Epictetus]

I welcome the analysis but Rhyce Shaw's issues at any level are not the clubs fault.

Other than us all falling for his unsustainable sugar hit football.

His initial tenure was fast and ferocious.

Sugar hit? Maybe. But I wouldn't mind a bit of the attitude now that we had for a short period then.

 

[Spud11]

I feel like the players believed in the plan in rounds 1 & 2, it got pulled apart and figured out, and now they’re not buying in. Simple as that.

People say lack of talent and poor list - I don’t think so. There was a lot of talent and competitiveness in the first two rounds, but when you have a game plan that gets scored against so easily (and you neglect some form of backline before a ball is bounced anyway), I believe the players feel like crap about it.

 

[NMFC49]

The problem is the playing group and overall culture of the club.
This group has caused Rhyce to have a nervous breakdown and made Noble look like clueless twit (which he probably was anyway to be fair). Now they're embarrassing a 4 time premiership coach, there's no where to hide behind.
They're too s***, dumb and lazy to be able to nail down any game plan they're asked to execute. They never play for any coach longer than a few weeks, even poor old Ratts looked exhausted after his stint.

Clarko hasn't coached well this year, but this group eats everyone who tries.
It seems the only option they might be capable of executing is an ultra simple 1v1 all over ground. At least then no one can point fingers at anyone else, if their man gets away.

We need a coach like Clarko with a secure legacy, who can the hits while tossing out those dragging the club down and building a proper professional culture from scratch.
The near enough is good enough, winning doesn't really matter culture that developed under Scotts is what is killing us. It drags down everyone eventually and kills hope and belief.

And to find the culprits look no further than our so called co-captains, and a few others like Stephenson, Corr, Zurhar, CCJ. This is the senior group that are destroying the morale of the team.