Review Cats hang on by 3 points to beat Pies

[Spearman]

I think Mullin keeping him to just 3 possessions in the last quarter, when the game was there to be won or lost, was telling.

Equal to other mids getting 10 touches you might say. Completely blanketed the 4Q game-winning specialist.

Not just his performance, but I like how he showed a bit of emotion out there. At least on the TV, he was giving it back.

 

[Spearman]

So have any of the talking heads mentioned 50m calculations?

Somebody did a segment earlier in the season. I think it's time for part 2.
I was thinking that whoever the official is up in the box should have a sheet of paper with the field printed on, and ruler with the scaled 50m on it. He can then get the on field umps' ears about placement of the mark. If they can correct bad calls then surely they can aid in 50m placements.

 

[bombersboy]

Proof that stats alone are not always a great representation of a players contribution or impact. By most measures Cameron was in the best 4-5 players on the ground. Neale was nowhere near that.

Cannot agree. Cameron was not in the best 4-5 players on the ground. On my quick take I had him behind 15-16 other Geelong players without thinking of Collingwood.

 

[you pick one]

Proof that stats alone are not always a great representation of a players contribution or impact. By most measures Cameron was in the best 4-5 players on the ground. Neale was nowhere near that.

Yeah nah.

 

[Cattery]

Proof that stats alone are not always a great representation of a players contribution or impact. By most measures Cameron was in the best 4-5 players on the ground. Neale was nowhere near that.

He was? Personally didn't think he was in the best four or five Geelong players.

 

[Cattery]

Dempsey hasn't been playing forward. He's been making those runs forward from the wing. It's a tactical move. Blicavs did it once from the wing in the first quarter too.

Crisp played on the wing and after the game said he was absolutely gassed from trying to chase Dempsey on those forward runs.

High five mate, to you and the others who stood up for that block who was cooked and would be exploited by Collingwood.

Never pays to write off a champion.

 

[STPer18]

Dempsey hasn't been playing forward. He's been making those runs forward from the wing. It's a tactical move. Blicavs did it once from the wing in the first quarter too.

Crisp played on the wing and after the game said he was absolutely gassed from trying to chase Dempsey on those forward runs.

Relevant from the 9 minute mark. I think it was CHAWKTS who normally gets the inside goss from training who said during the preseason there was going to be an 'Ollie Dempsey wing' and the 'other wing' or something along those lines.

 

[catsfootyfan89]

So have any of the talking heads mentioned 50m calculations?

Somebody did a segment earlier in the season. I think it's time for part 2.
I was thinking that whoever the official is up in the box should have a sheet of paper with the field printed on, and ruler with the scaled 50m on it. He can then get the on field umps' ears about placement of the mark. If they can correct bad calls then surely they can aid in 50m placements.

Custom laser-pointer from the stands run by the AFL would be fun

 

[And_ROOS]

Two "that said"s in a row. If there was a third I'd been out of my chair. Rollercoaster.

GWS are still a decent side, but are liable to these lapses and have always seemed to be like this. We usually bring the best out of them.

They did that the last few years where they would have weird runs where they might win 3 then lose 3 then win 5 then lose 3 etc, but they never lose 4 on the trot unless its a year they miss finals (which to be fair is true for most teams).

I hope we absolutely bury them and ruin their season.

 

[fpm84]

Votes are in! Smith is now into equal third overall, and Danger into equal fourth

 

[goyoucatters]

Votes are in! Smith is now into equal third overall, and Danger into equal fourth

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Fantastic game from Merrick and great to see him rewarded in the votes this week. He has put together some really impressive performances already this season.

 

[hoopla]

I initially thought the cats had the rub of the green on Saturday night, mainly with the run down tackle and touched goal review, but after watching the replay, the umpires got both correct. In slo-mo, Blicavs seemed to get an index finger to the ball. Not only that, the ball could have even grazed the post, which is something that no one seems to be looking at.

The Blicavs Htb in the last few seconds was totally correct because he had an arm free. Sidebottom did the exact same thing in the Geelong forward line a few minutes earlier but didn’t get pinged. Swings and roundabouts. The cats were crucified by the umpires for the previous couple of weeks, so perhaps that game balances things a little.

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

I initially thought the cats had the rub of the green on Saturday night, mainly with the run down tackle and touched goal review, but after watching the replay, the umpires got both correct. In slo-mo, Blicavs seemed to get an index finger to the ball. Not only that, the ball could have even grazed the post, which is something that no one seems to be looking at.

The Blicavs Htb in the last few seconds was totally correct because he had an arm free. Sidebottom did the exact same thing in the Geelong forward line a few minutes earlier but didn’t get pinged. Swings and roundabouts. The cats were crucified by the umpires for the previous couple of weeks, so perhaps that game balances things a little.

The other one was the Elliot hold on Bowes which was absolutely there, and even if it wasn't paid (or they paid advantage), we had recovered the ball and Brad Close was next in line with clear air ahead of him.

Agree on the Blitz touched / poster - the snicko would be interesting.

 

[Mr Meow]

we get it, names are important.

Okay hincleys39.

 

[Jumping Jack]

He was? Personally didn't think he was in the best four or five Geelong players.

I'm referring to Darcy Cameron not Jeremy Cameron.

Darcy Cameron was in the best 4-5 players on the ground I thought. Collingwood dominated clearances and he also went forward and looked dangerous (kicked a goal). Collingwood dominated hitouts and centre clearances and I thought that helped give them the ascendancy.

And he was #1 ranked player on the ground - but I see he didn't get a coaches vote

 

[Jumping Jack]

Who do you suggest we play to make Taylor accountable?

See stats above, maybe Jezza needs to go back to the VFL to work on a few things too?

On first point I think that's what might save Neale this week. His size might mean Taylor (or someone) at least needs to be accountable.

On second point I was referring to Collingwood's Cameron not Jezza.

 

[dudusmaximus]

Custom laser-pointer from the stands run by the AFL would be fun

Umps carry a small GPS device to lock and calculate 50 ms towards the goals

 

[Mr Meow]

Just shows where they are at. Mullins got 9 disposals to his opponents 28. Reminds me of Shane Kirsten a few years ago against Gibson and people celebrating on this board when he was flogged.

I certainly want more than 12 touches a game from Clark and don't see his gamr as anything but below average.

Some of us have standards I guess

Looks like the coaches have standards too. Not a single coaches votes to the best player in the competition. Makes sense given he only had 2 more clearances than Mullin and had a combined 7 disposals for the 2 quarters Geelong made their move (Q1 and Q4). Brilliant move by Scotty and good job by Mullin.

 

[thegerman]

Proof that stats alone are not always a great representation of a players contribution or impact. By most measures Cameron was in the best 4-5 players on the ground. Neale was nowhere near that.

Officially Cameron ranked lower than Neale in player ratings.

 

[bombersboy]

I'm referring to Darcy Cameron not Jeremy Cameron.

Darcy Cameron was in the best 4-5 players on the ground I thought. Collingwood dominated clearances and he also went forward and looked dangerous (kicked a goal). Collingwood dominated hitouts and centre clearances and I thought that helped give them the ascendancy.

And he was #1 ranked player on the ground - but I see he didn't get a coaches vote

The stats that were listed in the post you replied to were for our Jeremy.

 

[thegerman]

On first point I think that's what might save Neale this week. His size might mean Taylor (or someone) at least needs to be accountable.

On second point I was referring to Collingwood's Cameron not Jezza.

Why would we need to compare Darcy and Neale? No wonder so many were confused.

Darcy got 23 disposals, 7 marks with 38 hit outs, I don’t think your point about low stats makes sense.

 

[Pollywaffle]

Custom laser-pointer from the stands run by the AFL would be fun

Shouldn’t be that hard to stride out 50m. Surely they practice that…

Harder to judge 15m on kicks.
I suggest that they change the kick rule to 20 m. This really gets rid of dinky kicks and easier for umps to judge but gives receivers time to adjust/react when an accurate or erroneous call is made.

 

[catsfootyfan89]

Umps carry a small GPS device to lock and calculate 50 ms towards the goals

GPS unfortunately has an error margin of around ten metres

Maybe they could carry those big circular distance measurers with them?

 

[Mattttty]

I initially thought the cats had the rub of the green on Saturday night, mainly with the run down tackle and touched goal review, but after watching the replay, the umpires got both correct. In slo-mo, Blicavs seemed to get an index finger to the ball. Not only that, the ball could have even grazed the post, which is something that no one seems to be looking at.

The Blicavs Htb in the last few seconds was totally correct because he had an arm free. Sidebottom did the exact same thing in the Geelong forward line a few minutes earlier but didn’t get pinged. Swings and roundabouts. The cats were crucified by the umpires for the previous couple of weeks, so perhaps that game balances things a little.

Good points. On rewatch, these are all absolutely fine. Agree about Sidebottom. That's a free, same as the Blicavs one in the centre.

Here's a tip: If Collingwood don't want lots of free kicks against them in the final quarter, they shouldn't give away so many free kicks in the final quarter. Pretty simple.

 

[Mattttty]

Good points. On rewatch, these are all absolutely fine. Agree about Sidebottom. That's a free, same as the Blicavs one in the centre.

Here's a tip: If Collingwood don't want lots of free kicks against them in the final quarter, they shouldn't give away so many free kicks in the final quarter. Pretty simple.

*And Blicavs at the goal line was called touched by the goal umpire with support from the boundary umpire, who came up and made a point of confirming that he'd seen it get touched. How often do you see that happen? Should give us every confidence that it was correct. And then slow-motion playback showed absolutely nothing to contradict the initial call. It was inconclusive, but it was trying to find evidence of a gap, and found none. That makes the initial call valid than the disputation not even worthy of a conversation to my mind. Disrespectful to the umpires in question for the commentators to go on about it like they did.