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Can't wait for the meltdown when Clancee is probably selected again. Hasnt had a great start to the season but **** me this board has short memories. There was even a toast thread on him not even 12 months ago :rolleyes:
 
I think the only problem with bringing in Deboer is his skill level. Yes he will bring ball winning ability but I guess we have to weigh up whether you take that over someone who may not get as many possessions or tackles but can offer a better skill set which is probably what we need a lot of as well
 
Might be a bit late on this one but I'll post my opinion anyway. Key defenders generally have higher disposal efficiency than most players (check the stats if you don't believe me). Defenders have higher disposal efficiency than both midfielders and forwards actually. Disposal efficiency doesn't take into consideration he difficulty of the kick or how well it sets up play. It helps when most of your disposals are either handballs to a free player with better disposal or a kick to the safest option. Now I'm a Dawson fan but he's in the worst 2-3 kicks (maybe that's being kind too) in the side, anyone who says otherwise is not watching our games.
 

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Can't wait for the meltdown when Clancee is probably selected again. Hasnt had a great start to the season but **** me this board has short memories. There was even a toast thread on him not even 12 months ago :rolleyes:

He has been far from our worst. In his best year, he got quite a bit of time on ball. I wouldn't mind seeing him added to the rotation.
 
I think the only problem with bringing in Deboer is his skill level. Yes he will bring ball winning ability but I guess we have to weigh up whether you take that over someone who may not get as many possessions or tackles but can offer a better skill set which is probably what we need a lot of as well

Agreed but he would appear to fill a need around the ball at the moment (a real weakness that Suban is not taking care of) - just for the love of everything don't use him close to our goals. Think Priddis like - just dishing out the handballs.
 
Agreed but he would appear to fill a need around the ball at the moment (a real weakness that Suban is not taking care of) - just for the love of everything don't use him close to our goals. Think Priddis like - just dishing out the handballs.
I think Suban would be much more suited to the backline. I don't quite understand why we continue to use him on the ball. Yes he does add a bit of hardness in there but you would think that with our new attacking game style we should have three attacking on ballers in there most of the time, and if they aren't attacking then they should be well inept at stoppages like someone like Deboer. To me Suban is purely a stopper and always will be a stopper because he does not accumulate the ball enough and therefore should not demand a spot in the middle.
 
I think Suban would be much more suited to the backline. I don't quite understand why we continue to use him on the ball. Yes he does add a bit of hardness in there but you would think that with our new attacking game style we should have three attacking on ballers in there most of the time, and if they aren't attacking then they should be well inept at stoppages like someone like Deboer. To me Suban is purely a stopper and always will be a stopper because he does not accumulate the ball enough and therefore should not demand a spot in the middle.

He doesn't use the ball well enough to be a back. Ross likes good kicks out of the backline i.e. Johnson, Sheridan, Ibbo. Too much pressure having a t/over specialist in your back half imo.
 
He doesn't use the ball well enough to be a back. Ross likes good kicks out of the backline i.e. Johnson, Sheridan, Ibbo. Too much pressure having a t/over specialist in your back half imo.
I don't think his disposal isn't bad at all really. I think under pressure he has a tendency to bomb the ball long a lot but his general play and spot up kicks are quite good. In the midfield he is under pressure a lot more so tends to bomb it long though. I think using his skills out of the backline would be good actually, his pace has always been the issue in playing in the backline for me
 

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NicNat has been flogged by 211 every time so far that will need to continue. Clancee? Imagine he played for the eagles, we wouldn't bother even discussing him as a threat.
 
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Can't wait for the meltdown when Clancee is probably selected again. Hasnt had a great start to the season but **** me this board has short memories. There was even a toast thread on him not even 12 months ago :rolleyes:

Who toasted C. Pearce?

This board has almost universally been calling for his dropping for years.
 
I would have but I couldn't find a toaster wide enough for his big arse :)
Anywhere from DTD he hurt himself from training thinking too much about the toaster.:D I so happy for peel thunder now because he will definitely cause some turnover if he play for them this week.
 
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