Changes for the 5th Test SCG

[The_Reaper]

Priddis performs at the top level though. Hughes is similar to Jetta, dominates the level below but is shit at the top level

Like your mate White?

Edit: Poor comparison. White has never dominated first class cricket.

 

[eth-dog]

Like your mate White?

Edit: Poor comparison. White has never dominated first class cricket.

566 runs in 5 matches this season. More dominant this season than Hughes, and if he had more than 1 batsman supporting him (Wade) in the middle-order would have made shitloads more. I'd call that dominating.

 

[The_Reaper]

566 runs in 5 matches this season. More dominant this season than Hughes, and if he had more than 1 batsman supporting him (Wade) in the middle-order would have made shitloads more. I'd call that dominating.

Compared to Hughe's 549 runs in 5 matches.

Massive difference

 

[frankrizzo]

I feel the same way about Watson. I'd rather they missed the short formats than tests in Aus or SA. Watson doesn't need to make a bid to be in the World Cup team for ODI's or in the T20 best team, he's in them.

Exactly, if watto is 90% fit he will be rested and they would say it's with an eye to SA but thats rubbish it would be getting him fit to bowl in the 20/20 and one dayers that are to follow the tests.

If they really feel watto is vital as a 5th bowler in tests then stop him from bowling in the shorter forms of the game(at least until nearer the 2015 WC), if that hurts watto in the hip pocket then why can't CA compensate him?

If he is that vital he is worth more money from CA but that would mean actually taking full control of one of our assets which would no doubt piss off our masters over at the BCCI.

 

[eth-dog]

Compared to Hughe's 549 runs in 5 matches.

Massive difference

White doesn't play in Adelaide though.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

That might be because he hasn't played 3 times at test cricket, do you think?

Exactly! He isn't a known failure!

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I don't want either. The best option has played 2 FC games this season (Holland).

Don't want left arm offies generally. That said I haven't seen enough if Holland at FC level

 

[The_Reaper]

eth-dog
Is Holland first choice spinner for Victoria yet? He looks to have more of a chance of an international future than Ahmed.

 

[eth-dog]

eth-dog
Is Holland first choice spinner for Victoria yet? He looks to have more of a chance of an international future than Ahmed.

He is ODD cricket but unfortunately not in FC. Think he's injured during the BBL as well. I've been an advocate of him ahead of Ahmed, who should be 3rd in line IMO (Muirhead's shown more than Fawad for Victoria IMO).

 

[Phone]

lol

 

[Yoda_]

White doesn't play in Adelaide though.

Would have thought the best thing Hughes could have done was to dominate at the spin friendly SCG not on the flat track, short boundaried Adelaide Oval.

 

[Super Hans]

Would have thought the best thing Hughes could have done was to dominate at the spin friendly SCG not on the flat track, short boundaried Adelaide Oval.

Hughes dominated at the SCG for years playing for NSW.

 

[Yoda_]

Hughes dominated at the SCG for years playing for NSW.

really?

 

[Super Hans]

really?

Well it's what originally lead to his test call up.

 

[eth-dog]

I think he should have moved to Tassie tbh

 

[big_e]

Off-topic, but if there was a drinking game where you skulled every time there was a reference to papers being stamped then this would be a very enjoyable thread.

 

[Torz]

Off-topic, but if there was a drinking game where you skulled every time there was a reference to papers being stamped then this would be a very enjoyable thread.

It's a wonderful age to own a stamp shop.

 

[Phone]

It's amazing that the current selection panel (bar the coach) revived the careers of two 35-36yos, and we have people saying a 25yo has had his papers stamped.

 

[Power Raid]

I really hope bailey performs in the. 5th test.

It would top off a great series having another bonafide test player deserving of the position in the first 11.

 

[The_Reaper]

It's amazing that the current selection panel (bar the coach) revived the careers of two 35-36yos, and we have people saying a 25yo has had his papers stamped.

Especially since Marsh still gets a game.

 

[Zgope1]

Watson was half injured in India and frankly with the baby his mind wasn't even remotely on cricket. I said it at the time, he should have stayed home. A baby is more important than a cricket match.

It isn't those 3 innings, it is throughout his career. He doesn't use his feet! You won't succeed against spin unless you do, it isn't that hard to understand that. He has a poor technique against spin to succeed, and like Khawaja plays a number of dot balls against spin.

I see you've made an excuse for Watson's failings but can't budge on Hughes.

Everybody has technical flaws. Watson's shuffled his from front foot too far across to a lashing outside off one. Rogers could use his feet more and used to play across the line against spin. Smith has a gate to off stump and a problem around off against serious pace.

So Hughes sometimes gets caught on the crease... not always. When he's set he's far more capable of getting down to the spin. It's more that when he comes in against it he struggles to get down to it. This shouldn't be a problem for a guy who should be our no 3.

The guys met every challenge he's had, in terms of his weaknesses, extremely well and he's back scoring runs and like Rogers i'm sure will fare well next time against spin. Unless of course we get bowled out for 90 in the UAE and he cops the blame for the whole team.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I see you've made an excuse for Watson's failings but can't budge on Hughes.

Everybody has technical flaws. Watson's shuffled his from front foot too far across to a lashing outside off one. Rogers could use his feet more and used to play across the line against spin. Smith has a gate to off stump and a problem around off against serious pace.

So Hughes sometimes gets caught on the crease... not always. When he's set he's far more capable of getting down to the spin. It's more that when he comes in against it he struggles to get down to it. This shouldn't be a problem for a guy who should be our no 3.

The guys met every challenge he's had, in terms of his weaknesses, extremely well and he's back scoring runs and like Rogers i'm sure will fare well next time against spin. Unless of course we get bowled out for 90 in the UAE and he cops the blame for the whole team.

Having a baby is a bit different to having no idea how to play a turning ball like Hughes. Please enlighten me the times Hughes has used his feel in test cricket. He has feet like cement. Frankly it isn't hard, get down there, smother the spin and thrash the ball to the boundary/pick up singles to long off/long on.

There are technical flaws and there are serious flaws, Hughes is the latter. Bring on a spinner and he is gone within a few overs. You can't have that in a test side. Smith's issues can be guarded a bit easier than Hughes, not every side has an elite quick.

Hughes is back scoring SOME runs...key word is some. He needs to do it for 3 years, both in Australia and in County cricket. Then lets evaluate. That is more than fair. He must show that he comes down the track to spinners regularly though.

 

[Super Hans]

There are technical flaws and there are serious flaws, Hughes is the latter. Bring on a spinner and he is gone within a few overs. You can't have that in a test side. Smith's issues can be guarded a bit easier than Hughes, not every side has an elite quick.

And not every side has an elite spinner.

 

[Zgope1]

Having a baby is a bit different to having no idea how to play a turning ball like Hughes. Please enlighten me the times Hughes has used his feel in test cricket. He has feet like cement. Frankly it isn't hard, get down there, smother the spin and thrash the ball to the boundary/pick up singles to long off/long on.

There are technical flaws and there are serious flaws, Hughes is the latter. Bring on a spinner and he is gone within a few overs. You can't have that in a test side. Smith's issues can be guarded a bit easier than Hughes, not every side has an elite quick.

Hughes is back scoring SOME runs...key word is some. He needs to do it for 3 years, both in Australia and in County cricket. Then lets evaluate. That is more than fair. He must show that he comes down the track to spinners regularly though.

Not every side has an elite spinner either. Like with Herath in Australia last year, Hughes was very well suited at number 3.

You want me to enlighten you? Well his 81 not out he showed that once he was in he could handle Swann.

The other is his 69 in India when he came in against a couple of quicks, took 3 overs to smash them out of the attack and get to about 25 and then worked around the spin effectively, getting down the pitch on several occasions and putting them through midwicket. His decision was a howler. An absolute howler. His 40 odd in the next match or innings was the exact same, he was in and working the spin around and copped a disgraceful decision. I remember the excitement i felt at the time that we had a batsman that would work hard to address his weaknesses.

He is the most qualified and deserving bat Aus has outside of the 11 and was dropped based on one bad test. In the meantime Rogers has addressed some of his issues against spin whilst being in the team.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

And not every side has an elite spinner.

Good luck Hughes playing Shillingford, Ajmal, or Narine. Peterson would cause him issues as well, and Pakistan have good spinners too