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while were at we might as well put out the performances of the guys in shield cricket who would be in consideration from 2008/09 to current, including Smith and Hughes.

Hughes 37 inns, 1no, 1962 runs, Ave 54.50, HS 198, SR: 61.8, 7 x 100, 8 x 50 (Current Season: 118 runs @ 16.85)
Smith 25 inns, 1no, 1036 runs, Ave 43.16, HS 177, SR: 67.4, 4 x 100, 2 x 50 (CS: 162 runs @ 32.40)
Khawaja 34 inns, 4no, 1821 runs, Ave 60.70, HS 214, SR: 54.2, 6 x 100, 8 x 50 (CS: 598 runs @ 74.25)
Ferguson 23 inns, 1no, 981 runs, Ave 44.59, HS 132, SR: 63.4, 4 x 100, 3 x 50 (CS: 337 runs @ 48.14) missed 09/10 season with injury
Marsh 25 inns, 3no, 1058 runs, Ave 48.09, HS 137, SR: 44.4, 2 x 100, 8 x 50 (CS: 514 runs @ 59.14)
White 22 inns, 3no, 905 runs, Ave 47.64, HS 135, SR: 52.4, 2 x 100, 6 x 50 (CS: 114 runs @ 28.50)
D Hussey 43 inns, 3no, 1893 runs, Ave 47.32, HS 174, SR: 67.3, 5 x 100, 10 x 50 (CS: 401 runs @ 40.10)
 
Almost silly to consider it, but I think Adelaide may be a precedent for it, is that the match result will be the deciding factor in how many changes will be made.

If Adelaide hadn't been an innings defeat, I don't think there would have been that many changes made to the side. Similiarly, if Australia can force an extra innings out of England, I think that minimal changes will be made. If an innings victory ensues, we may see some changes that were earmarked to occur in Bangladesh a test early.

Harris going down and Hilf getting some wickets makes me think that it'll be Harris for Khawaja, and Smith dropping down to 7.
 
Hughes to keep his spot.

Looked really comfortable and solid in the second innings. Back him in, he will come good.

I think Usman will come into contention.
 
Beyond frustrating to see people 'dropping' Hughes and Smith, and picking Hodge and Hussey. Ponting understandable, but I wouldn't do it. Such short memories, he was very good in India this year, and his runs are certainly there. Tendulkar was at a similar stage 3 or 3 years ago.
 

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Tendulker had injury issues tho (tennis Elbow), Punter might have a broken finger this test but overall is fit. He's just on the decline.
 
Hughes shouldn't be dropped - his dismissal wasn't his fault.

What about the shocking shot in the first dig, or the two at the WACA. The bloke has abysmal technique!:thumbsd:
 
I would like to see:

Marsh
Hughes
Khawaja
Watson
Hussey
Ponting
Haddin
Johnson
Hauritz
Siddle
Copeland

Edit: Putting Watson up the order to maintain a more left hand right hand feel to it.
 

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What about the shocking shot in the first dig, or the two at the WACA. The bloke has abysmal technique!:thumbsd:

A unique technique, yes, a technique not suited to opening, yes, a technique highlighted by a serious lack of form, yes, but not an abysmal technique. I've stressed it before but if Hughes must be in the team he needs to be down the order. No matter what anyone says, you don't score runs against the Saffies and average over 50 in the Shield without having at least SOME talent.
 
Hughes, Ponting, Clarke, Smith, Hilfenhaus must all have their spots under question by the time the sri lanka series starts. harris is also going to be out of the team short term and we'll see how he comes back, but the way he bowled in the second and third tests was impressive enough to me to suggest his international performances from 09/10 were not a flash in the pan.

on top of that siddle and johnson are far to inconsistent to play together. It's nearly impossible to know which of the four possible combination's* of those two are going to turn up on any given day (or indeed, any given session as can be their variance in performance).

*1) both bowl well (hasn't happened for a long time), 2) johnson bowls well, siddle doesn't, 3) siddle bowls well, johnson doesn't, 4) neither bowl well

the perth match masked a few things. our batting in that game wasn't strong at all, and hasn't been for a while. and whilst we bowled very well in that game, we are still very inconsistent with the ball. and because the bowling is so fluctuating it makes the job of the selectors very hard to know which bowlers to pick.

after the first test, it was pretty widely agreed johnson had to go and bollinger and harris had to come. that was done. bollinger bowled crap. johndon got reselected. no one could understand why but he takes nine wickets to shut everyone up.

it was pretty widely stated we need a specialist spinner for melbourne and most believed the quickie to get dropped was siddle. but he survives and takes a six-for.

what i'm getting at is for any given test we just don't know which bowlers are going to turn up. even harris who had been very good in the second and third tests - he bowled like a busted ass in this match. hilfenhaus has been the only consistent bowler all series but he's just been consistent at being economical and not taking wickets which isn't going to win you enough matches....

frustrating.
 
Hughes
Watson
Khawaja
Ferguson
Hussey
Smith
Haddin
O'Keefe
Johnson/Siddle
Copeland
George

In: Khawaja, Ferguson, O'Keefe, Copeland, George
Out: Ponting, Clarke, Harris, Siddle/Johnson, Hilfenhaus

Siddle didn't look too bad this game, but both him and Johnson are starting to look even more and more like North every game. They play like crap, and just when people start to question them they pull something out of nowhere. It's inconsistency like that which has put Australia in this position.

Clarke and Ponting are averaging 21 and 16 respectively. I don't care about reputations or giving someone a nice sendoff, they don't deserve a game on form. Enough said. A dead rubber is the perfect chance to drop someone like Clarke and for Ponting to finally put the team ahead of himself.

And, well Hilfenhaus just plain sucks.

Copeland, Khawaja and O'Keefe all deserve selection. And home ground advantage would no doubt make them all feel more comfortable. George could be our own Tremlett, while Ferguson would add some much needed class to our middle order.

I can wish, can't I?
 
Anyone suggesting we drop Hughes should be banned immediately.

He's a young kid trying his guts out. He's clearly got talent. Twice this test the senior bloke at the other end has tried to run him out, to his full credit he went for it and didn't leave his partner stranded. That deserves some credit. He's also looked pretty good this test before a lapse of concentration in the first innings, and a lapse of concentration by Watson in the second.

His confidence will be non-existent at the moment, but he is the future. So this is where we need to back him in. Like we used to do when we'd pick kids. Drop him now and he's ruined forever. Surely we're not that stupid.
 

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Anyone suggesting we drop Hughes should be banned immediately.

He's a young kid trying his guts out. He's clearly got talent. Twice this test the senior bloke at the other end has tried to run him out, to his full credit he went for it and didn't leave his partner stranded. That deserves some credit. He's also looked pretty good this test before a lapse of concentration in the first innings, and a lapse of concentration by Watson in the second.

His confidence will be non-existent at the moment, but he is the future. So this is where we need to back him in. Like we used to do when we'd pick kids. Drop him now and he's ruined forever. Surely we're not that stupid.

Perfect. :thumbsu:
 
If Katich is fit, bring him in to open with Hughes.

Slide Watson back to #3, Ponting to #4 for his farewell test, and the selectors can say that Clarke is being "rested for the ODI and Twenty20 series" for all I care.

As for Cosgrove, Chubby McPorkchops is a selfish fat slacker who loves the drink and the ladies more than training. Has never had the commitment, and never will.
 
the future starts now,

paine
watson
khawaja
hussey
ponting(c)
ferguson
haddin(vc)
hauritz
johnson
siddle
george

lets see who has some character,and stick with them,like we did with s,waugh,d,boon,m,hughes etc..............
 
the future starts now,

By dropping the 21 year old bloke with two test centuries to his name and opening with a guy that's never opened an innings of FC cricket in his life?
 
How can Ferguson possibly be ahead of Marsh? How the **** can you drop Siddle?

Well considering Ferguson was in the extended squad for the first test, and Marsh wasn't, then I think it explains itself. Marsh needs to bat in the top 3, and I would much prefer Khawaja and Hughes up there.

And I guess you didn't read the rest of my post. Neither Johnson or Siddle are consistent enough, and quite frankly Siddle isn't that good. He pulls out a good game from nowhere every once in a while (Brisbane), but then goes back to his usual nothing self (Adelaide, Perth). After the first innings in this test, he is due for a nothing game.
 

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