Changes vs Adelaide

[cats2rise]

IMO the biggest game for the catters to date. If we are going to go for finals we HAVE to win this, otherwise I say we should egt a few good draft picks.

No major injuries from the game agaisnt Freo, but a few VFL players are pushing for selection (McCarthy, Priss, DJ)

Any major changes? Will Kent keep his spot?

 

[Sir Gusset]

IMO the biggest game for the catters to date. If we are going to go for finals we HAVE to win this, otherwise I say we should egt a few good draft picks.

No major injuries from the game agaisnt Freo, but a few VFL players are pushing for selection (McCarthy, Priss, DJ)

Any major changes? Will Kent keep his spot?

I hope not. Even though we were stretched with Mackie being a late out I don't think KK should have ever been included.

 

[JUBJUB]

Rooke for KK
Harley for Spencer [obvious swap]
I wouldn't mind seeing Prismall get a game,maybe ahead of Monty.

Ricco to return via the VFL

 

[year of the cat]

Rooke for KK
Harley for Spencer [obvious swap]
I wouldn't mind seeing Prismall get a game,maybe ahead of Monty.

Ricco to return via the VFL

Spot on

 

[Ricketts]

We will make the finals despite not winning this match.

 

[costanza23]

IN: Harley, Rooke and D. Johnson.
OUT: Spencer, Callan and Kingsley.

 

[thejester]

Yeah Callan's played some solid footy but Rooke and DJ are still ahead of him in skills and experience.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

IN: Harley, Rooke and D. Johnson.
OUT: Spencer, Callan and Kingsley.

Sounds good, except I would probably omit Wojcinski before Callan...

 

[Inferno]

Sounds good, except I would probably omit Wojcinski before Callan...

Agreed.

 

[GeeCat]

Callan needs (and arguably deserves) to be kept in.

I don't think anyone can pretend that he played well, but it's best for him (and probably the team) if he retains his spot. I mean, all the man-on-man, one out, bodywork he conceded to his opponent in came down to a lack of experience more than ability. He's proven himself a capable defender at VFL level, and at the very least, he deserves time in the AFL to prove himself capable there.

That, and I'd rather him as the small defender at this stage ahead of the likes of either DJ or Slade (if he's been upgraded again). God knows how we need a capable small defender right now, with Rookey moving to the midfield (deservedly so), and Wojcinski proving himself incapable of shutting down opposition small forwards on a regular basis.

 

[Sean Sheep]

I'd keep playing Wojo... I think he is getting better every time he plays, and his form, while not setting the world on fire, has been good considering the injury he is coming back from.

Its great seeing that old dash out of defense! He just needs to work on his disposal again (which I think was getting alot better before he did his knee). I think as his confidence grows, we are also going to see more of his aggression and toughness come back into his game.

As you can probably tell, I really rate him and can't believe some of the talk about trading him that has been going on around here (he wrecked his knee serving our club for gods sake!) We owe him every opportunity to get back to top form.

 

[cats2rise]

Agree with both GeeCat and Sean Sheep there. Top posts!

 

[GeeCat]

As you can probably tell, I really rate him and can't believe some of the talk about trading him that has been going on around here (he wrecked his knee serving our club for gods sake!) We owe him every opportunity to get back to top form.

So if Sam Hunt wrecked his knee between now and the remainder of the season, do we owe him another contract for next year? I mean, he's serving the club, and surely we need to give him an opportunity to find some form.

 

[CF]

OUT: Kingsley, Spencer, Callan

In: Harley, Rooke, Ricco

 

[cats2rise]

So if Sam Hunt wrecked his knee between now and the remainder of the season, do we owe him another contract for next year? I mean, he's serving the club, and surely we need to give him an opportunity to find some form.

There is a difference. Wojja was playing regular football for the GFC before he did hs knee.

 

[GeeCat]

The romanticism aside, Ricco needs to come back via the VFL on two counts:

i - Everyone in this side earns their spot.

ii - Anyone who has been out as long as he has needs to come back via the VFL, arguably him moreso considering both the state of his body and taking into account the age factor.

 

[GeeCat]

There is a difference. Wojja was playing regular football for the GFC before he did hs knee.

My point though, is that this club owes no one anything, especially spots on the list/team.

I'm appreciative of what he brings to the team, for what he brings in his preparedness to run, carry, and break the lines is arguably the best at the club, both running forward with the ball, and defensively (Tenace take note). I don't think anyone can quesiton his attitude everytime he takes to the field, nor can they question his commitment. But he is not a smart footballer, and makes subsequent poor decisions, topped off with his poor disposal and inability to sucessfully guard opposition small forwards on a regular basis (though the latter I'd argue is more the coaching staff's fault than his).

He is 25, and someone I'd argue has 'topped off' as far as reaching his footballing potential goes. He won't get much better, and as it stands, he's probably one of a few constantly fighting for the 21st and 22nd spots on the team. So yes, if the situation arose, I wouldn't hesitate to offload him - he certainly isn't untouchable. Perhaps it might be looked at as being morally wrong, considering his unfortunate circumstances, but this club cannot afford to "reserve" places for guys on the proviso that we "owe" them one, for we quite simply do not.

 

[CF]

Well GeeCat I agree with you for everyone except Ricco. He is pure class even if he hasn't played for a while. Worked off the bench he can be a very valuable contributor, especially if the crows are pressing his experience in the middle is important for helping our side get back into the game. He can't play the whole game becaus of the factors you mentioned, but that doesn't stop Bomber playing people.

 

[cats2rise]

My point though, is that this club owes no one anything, especially spots on the list/team.

ahh ok, sorry, misunderstood your point.

 

[jess_555]

The romanticism aside, Ricco needs to come back via the VFL on two counts:

i - Everyone in this side earns their spot.

ii - Anyone who has been out as long as he has needs to come back via the VFL, arguably him moreso considering both the state of his body and taking into account the age factor.

IMO Ricco has earnt his spot in the side. His played almost 300 games with us!!! His talent shouldn't be wasted in the VFL. He helps the cats so much even when he is only on the ground for a short amount of time. Unfortunately I don't think he will reach 300 games. I wouldn't be suprised if he comes back in to the snr team and plays 1 game and retires. I'm not sure how much more his body can take. His an awsome player and I LOVE watching him, his so classy it's amazing. I wish he could teach some of the younger kids how to kick!

 

[Conan Troutman]

IMO the biggest game for the catters to date. If we are going to go for finals we HAVE to win this, otherwise I say we should egt a few good draft picks.

No major injuries from the game agaisnt Freo, but a few VFL players are pushing for selection (McCarthy, Priss, DJ)

Any major changes? Will Kent keep his spot?

I wouldn't be surprised to see Mackie come in for Kent by the way Bomber was talking after the game. In the interview he was asked how Mackie will get back in the team after Geelong's performance against Freo, and Bomber pretty much said that Kent didn't do much

 

[jess_555]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Mackie come in for Kent by the way Bomber was talking after the game. In the interview he was asked how Mackie will get back in the team after Geelong's performance against Freo, and Bomber pretty much said that Kent didn't do much

But Kent didn't do much (if anything) in the VFL 2 weeks ago and he somehow still got the call up. What Bomber says means little IMHO. lol

 

[GeeCat]

I'd love Ricco to reach the milestone as much as the next guy (however unlikely it seems now), but this team can ill-afford to play him whilst he's match-lacking in fitness, arguably moreso against Adelaide than any other team.

It's true that we sorely lack his skills out there, but against Adelaide, we'll require guys who are not only prepared, but are capable of running their guts out in a match that will demand you be physically equipped - Ricco isn't at this stage.

 

[Soupy]

I cannot believe this about the Wojac.

He has had a bloody knee reco ffs, he'll be much better towards the end of the year and next year.

Where as players like Kent have no excuses for being pathetic.

 

[GeeCat]

I cannot believe this about the Wojac.

He has had a bloody knee reco ffs, he'll be much better towards the end of the year and next year.

So he'll get some footy smarts, make good on-field decisions 70-80% of the time, hit targets on the run, and tighten up in his defending?

I'll tell you what I can't believe: that some people actually think his knee reconstruction is an excuse for every flaw he has. Perhaps if he was struggling to adapt to the speed of the game, had lost a yard or two in his legs, or was ginger with his agility and fitness then I'd buy into that. But the aforementioned have absolutely zilch to do with his knee. They existed before the operation, and they exist now.

I'm not calling for his head, nor that he be delisted or put up as definite trading material, but I am trying to instill some sense in the argument because currently it's bordering on the naive.