Changes vs Sydney

[Quicky]

OUT: Fraser, Barham, Medhurst, Wellingham, Maxwell*
IN: Dawes, Johnson, Ball, Didak, Goldsack*

L Brown -> 2nd ruck (ie. Fraser's position)
Dawes -> CHF (ie. Brown's position)
Ball -> midfield. (ie. Wellingham's position)
Didak -> HFF (ie. Meds' position)
Johnson -> HBF (ie. Barham's position)

*if required due to injury.

Sums it up pretty well to me. I'm not usually a fan of so many changes but I think some players need to be brought back through the 2's just to find touch.

Fraser is an obvious omission, gave us sweet **** all again. Until his attitude and form changes and a bit more shouldn't get a look in.

Dawes form warrants inclusion and I think we need to persist with him and get as many games into him as possible now. Unless Anthony has a massive form reversal.

Barham was pitiful against Davey and should be dropped.

Wellingham and Medhurst are two I think we could keep in but I don't want to see us continually persist with underperforming players like last year. Put them in the 2's until their form warrants inclusion. If we're worried about forward pressure just put Macaffer forward into Medders role and I don't think we'll lose anything.

 

[AG]

sydney dont have a very big forward line

White and Goodes plus Bradshaw who is expected to be fit. Man mountains.

 

[Optimax]

OUT: Fraser, Barham, Medhurst, Wellingham, Maxwell*
IN: Dawes, Johnson, Ball, Didak, Goldsack*

L Brown -> 2nd ruck (ie. Fraser's position)
Dawes -> CHF (ie. Brown's position)
Ball -> midfield. (ie. Wellingham's position)
Didak -> HFF (ie. Meds' position)
Johnson -> HBF (ie. Barham's position)

*if required due to injury.

Yep my changes too, if JMac was fit straight swap for Caff

Otherwise perfect changes to the side

 

[shawthing09]

I am actually on the bandwagon of dropping Shaz too. His effort was unaccetable IMO and him out for Didak would be the other change.

 

[Optimax]

I am actually on the bandwagon of dropping Shaz too. His effort was unaccetable IMO and him out for Didak would be the other change.

On that i'd personally drop Lockyer (see my rant on the stopping, propping and going slow process we had all game) bringing rounds in and moving one of davis, sidebottom and beams into a more full time Midfield rotation.

Lockyer played ok on the weekend, but to move any of the 3 i mentioned we need a faster player to play up forward

 

[comeonpies]

time to wield the axe to show that players are not tolerated for poor games.
*pending all BJ, dids and Ball are all fit.

IN: C.Dawes, A.Didak, L.Ball, B.Johnson, T.Goldsack
OUT: J.Fraser, J.Barham, B.Macaffer, A.Toovey, N.Maxwell

Some changes seem a bit odd but Fraser needs to go back to the magoos and give Leigh a crack in the ruck least he will give 100% effort week in week out.
The barham experiment didn't work and needs to go for Ball and Didak. Macaffer is interesting isn't playing badly but isn't playing well, i think others would offer a little more. BJ has to come in for Tooves, yes i may be over reacting after one game but the boundary line stategy does not work for tooves, kicks alot out on the full. Goldy in for the injured Maxwell seems a reasonable swap.

totally agree with this!

 

[Quicky]

On that i'd personally drop Lockyer (see my rant on the stopping, propping and going slow process we had all game) bringing rounds in and moving one of davis, sidebottom and beams into a more full time Midfield rotation.

Lockyer played ok on the weekend, but to move any of the 3 i mentioned we need a faster player to play up forward

It's a really good point you made about the ball movement and something that was really noticeable from Lockyer. Although I think his effort deserves another week just to see if it was an issue of readjusting to AFL level football after an extended stay in the 2's.

 

[shawthing09]

Thinking about Heath's last month I'd say only the injury to Maxwell saves him from being under real pressure for his spot.

 

[Optimax]

It's a really good point you made about the ball movement and something that was really noticeable from Lockyer. Although I think his effort deserves another week just to see if it was an issue of readjusting to AFL level football after an extended stay in the 2's.

It's a rant i have often, and the whole corridor centric talk on the forums always leads me into a rage about it.

Where the ball gets moved from doesn't matter, how fast it gets moved does. Slow moving through the corridor will hurt as badly as slow moving on the flanks (and when you don't have crack shot disposes like us you'll likely get cut to ribbons even faster).

A player marking the ball in the clear, running 10/20 meters then kicking it 40-60 meters forward is almost unstoppable, be it flanks or corridor, no one can out run the ball in flight so keep it moving and keep it in the air as much as possible

 

[HeavyPop]

Thinking about Heath's last month I'd say only the injury to Maxwell saves him from being under real pressure for his spot.

True. If Maxwell is out for the Sydney game, I wouldn't mind seeing Shaw in the midfield to try get and regain some form with Goldsack in the backline.

 

[Bay Pie]

White and Goodes plus Bradshaw who is expected to be fit. Man mountains.

Yep. This means Reid will need to play on at least one of these guys. Harry may get Bradshaw as he's taken him before but Presti gets the man in the goal square. With Maxys' injury, very bad time for Nate Brown to also go down.

 

[Optimax]

True. If Maxwell is out for the Sydney game, I wouldn't mind seeing Shaw in the midfield to try get and regain some form with Goldsack in the backline.

Heath isn't a midfielder, especially in this form.

He can hardly hit a target coming out of defence, it will be worse in the middle, add to the fact he has no left and spasmodically burns the ball under no pressure, moving him up field wont help any

 

[mdc]

Heath isn't a midfielder, especially in this form.

He can hardly hit a target coming out of defence, it will be worse in the middle, add to the fact he has no left and spasmodically burns the ball under no pressure, moving him up field wont help any

Not to mention that his hands below his knees are below average.

Yesterday's peformance (and most of the last month, really) had nothing to do with him playing too deep, he was outside 50 for most of the game. He just didn't work hard enough to run off Lynden Dunn, whereas Davey did work hard enough to run off Barham. It's pretty simple.

 

[Optimax]

Not to mention that his hands below his knees are below average.

Yesterday's peformance (and most of the last month, really) had nothing to do with him playing too deep, he was outside 50 for most of the game. He just didn't work hard enough to run off Lynden Dunn, whereas Davey did work hard enough to run off Barham. It's pretty simple.

Yep agreed 100%

 

[daics_35]

Wellingham has been terrible since he came back from the 1 week rest. He was worfull against Geelong and since then has been terrible. He must be dropped.

 

[soreplums]

On that i'd personally drop Lockyer (see my rant on the stopping, propping and going slow process we had all game) bringing rounds in and moving one of davis, sidebottom and beams into a more full time Midfield rotation.

Lockyer played ok on the weekend, but to move any of the 3 i mentioned we need a faster player to play up forward

He has been doing it for the last 3 years which is why I have lost confidence in him as a starting 22 and would use him only as a forward pocket who roves and finds space within goal kicking range. I thought he had a pretty good game on Monday and deserves to still be in the side.

 

[PieLebo87]

In: Dawes, Didak, Ball, Johnson*

Out: Fraser, Medhurst, Macaffer, Barham*

Leigh Brown to be the back up ruckman to Jolly with Dawes as a third back up, if required.

Didak will replace Medhurst, Dick having already secured his forward spot.

Ball coming in, at the expense of Macaffer, with Lockyer taking Medhurst's spot, and Ball replacing Macaffer around the ground.

* Johnson is a straight spot for Barham, if fully fit.

**If Maxwell is injuried, obviously Goldsack comes in.

Double bump, because I'm good. 14th of June.

 

[Number 10]

very good get son.

 

[Smoky]

Double bump, because I'm good. 14th of June.

I got excited to open this thread and see your in's and outs. Then realized you posted them on the 14th...

Now I am happy again


I really can't believe Mick dropped Fraser! (Yes he deserves to go... but Mick usually persists with situations like this. It's like he thinks he has less than 2 years in the job left - Finally he's going to make some personally emotional hard calls for himself for the benefit of the team and club)

 

[AsianWithAFro]

Big test for our young backline but I am confident that they will be fine. Harry O will need to be the general down there this week.

 

[Pie eyed]

Double bump, because I'm good. 14th of June.

 

[Pie eyed]

I got excited to open this thread and see your in's and outs. Then realized you posted them on the 14th...

Now I am happy again


I really can't believe Mick dropped Fraser! (Yes he deserves to go... but Mick usually persists with situations like this. It's like he thinks he has less than 2 years in the job left - Finally he's going to make some personally emotional hard calls for himself for the benefit of the team and club)

So you're saying he is selfishly being unselfish in his decision making.
Whereas formerly he was selfishly making decisions which selfishly diminished his personal success, but for purely selfish reasons.

 

[Sloth]

Good to see McCaffer finally dropped