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Chris Judd eye gauging Michael Rischitelli

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yeah, it wouldn't have to do with the fact there's a photo with his finger in his eye, moron

You must mean your eye?

Explains why you are crying or could it be that you miss your ex-champion LOL

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Doesnt look good. Didn't really see why he needed to do it.Will be relying on evidence from Rischitelli ala Campbell Brown to get him off.
 
Hes in big trouble i think. He wasnt even remotely in that contest to begin with, and he just happened to wander over and touch up Rischitelli's face while he was defenceless to block as he had a Carlton player wrapped up in a tackle. Quite odd thing to do and worthy of a couple of weeks i would've thought. Much worse than the incident with Campbell Brown.

You got it in one word - that is all he did. He may have been thinking evil thoughts but that is all he did

This is why I love Carlton supporters.

Not as much as we love you Easybeats

You can't really argue he was pushing his head/face as it's quite clear the palm of his hand was elevated and his fingers were going to work all over his face.

LOL make sure you come back and apologize when it gets thrown out
 
Because it's such a weird event wouldn't they have to get Rischitelli to at least say yes he eye gauged me? You can't actually truly tell what happened.

I would think for something like this to suspend him they would need Rischitelli to say yes he touched my eye because if he doesn't then the evidence is that Judd moved his hand towards Rischitelli's face and may or may not have done something.

I think the report has been changed from 'eye gouging' to 'misconduct - making unnecessary contact with face/eyes'. I'm not 100% sure on that but I think that's the case now with the new MRP system.
 

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You got it in one word - that is all he did. He may have been thinking evil thoughts but that is all he did

Regardless if it was "minimal impact" the intentions and the fact that eye gouging is classed as one of the lowest acts in the game will not hold him in good stead. He wasn't even in that contest to begin with and he well and truly overreacted to the argy bargy between him and Rischitelli all night.

Judd clearly wasn't pushing down on his face, and Rischitelli merely grabbed Judd's jumper in retaliation not anything else.
 
Regardless if it was "minimal impact" the intentions and the fact that eye gouging is classed as one of the lowest acts in the game will not hold him in good stead. He wasn't even in that contest to begin with and he well and truly overreacted to the argy bargy between him and Rischitelli all night.

Judd clearly wasn't pushing down on his face, and Rischitelli merely grabbed Judd's jumper in retaliation not anything else.


He touched his face - may get a warning

I repeat there was NO IMPACT
There was NO GOUGE

Give us a lecture on kicking if you like - you may as well as because you are exagerating what everybody has seen/not seen

You can come back and correct me if I am wrong :)

ps You don't miss him much LOL
 
He touched his face - may get a warning

I repeat there was NO IMPACT
There was NO GOUGE



You can come back and correct me if I am wrong :)


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You are wrong .

Go to post 72 ..redwallis .....in this thread and watch Judd work over his opponents eyes and face
 
Yes.
Yes.
And unfortunately Yes again.

When I saw it I didnt think much od it as there was very little reaction from Rischitelli, so the MRP may dismiss it on those grounds. But I must admit it's something I never never expected to see from the Juddmeister! He's one of my fav AFL players. :confused:

An opposition player's under -reaction (Rischitelli) or over reaction (Campbell Brown the other week) should have no bearing on the outcome. It is akin to blaming the victim - as is making up "evidence" about Rischitelli grabbing Judd by the balls.

A number of Carlton supporters seem to be able to see the event for what it is - but some of the rest of you guys need to open the other eye - as some of the excuses made up here are laughable and dont even deserve a reply.

"The Juddster" will be judged by his actions, regardless of the jumper he wears
 
An opposition player's under -reaction (Rischitelli) or over reaction (Campbell Brown the other week) should have no bearing on the outcome. It is akin to blaming the victim - as is making up "evidence" about Rischitelli grabbing Judd by the balls.

A number of Carlton supporters seem to be able to see the event for what it is - but some of the rest of you guys need to open the other eye - as some of the excuses made up here are laughable and dont even deserve a reply.

"The Juddster" will be judged by his actions, regardless of the jumper he wears

I am not saying what Juddy did was saintly but let's stick to the facts as that is how it will be judged

Can anyone say with certainty that his finger went in his eye not under it?

Does anyone see a reaction (impulse touch of the eye) by Rischi?

Does anyone think the finger in question was not his little finger of his left hand?

I think these questions are all valid. Like I said - I am not saying he was saintly but I think there is as much evidence of him putting his thumb up his nose as there is of him eye gouging

I repeat - I think he will be warned for touching his face.

If I am wrong I will come back and apologize
 
This will be my last ever post on BF (like anyone cares ;) and it has nothing to do with the lead we coughed up) What Chris Judd did tonight is so low and if you are real human and seen where the ball was and where his fingers went you would come to realise what a dirty act that was. I am as passionate as the next man and have remained loyal and faithful through-out all our dark times but when I saw that, that was the end! I respect Judd as a great footballer and I will continue to buy a CFC membership and I know we are on the right track but I just cannot except that from someone that not only has prior history but is the leader of the club I love so much.

So say what you want and call me anything but if you think there is nothing in it, you are deluding yourself as far as I'm concered.


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Overreaction of the century. I could imagine someone making a post like this after the rape news or salary cap issues or even the tanking but this?

What Judd did was strange and silly, but I'm not sure if he deserves time on the sidelines for just rubbing someones face. If he got a week I could live with it. Bit stupid to think it wouldn't get caught by the cameras though.
 
I am not saying what Juddy did was saintly but let's stick to the facts as that is how it will be judged

Can anyone say with certainty that his finger went in his eye not under it?

Does anyone see a reaction (impulse touch of the eye) by Rischi?

Does anyone think the finger in question was not his little finger of his left hand?

I think these questions are all valid. Like I said - I am not saying he was saintly but I think there is as much evidence of him putting his thumb up his nose as there is of him eye gouging

I repeat - I think he will be warned for touching his face.

If I am wrong I will come back and apologize

If you want to stick to facts, then you might want to read the rules.

For a start, the burden of proof is not certainty. It isnt even "beyond reasonable doubt". It is determined on the balance of probabilities.

Also, under the misconduct rules, his fingers do not have to be in his eyes in order for him to be suspended anyway.

Your "think he will be warned" is more a hope - and certainly not a "fact"

The facts are the footage - and from that alone, it doesnt look good for the Juddster.

I can see that you are trying to be objective, but you probably need to keep trying... ;)
 
If you want to stick to facts, then you might want to read the rules.

For a start, the burden of proof is not certainty. It isnt even "beyond reasonable doubt". It is determined on the balance of probabilities.

Also, under the misconduct rules, his fingers do not have to be in his eyes in order for him to be suspended anyway.

Your "think he will be warned" is more a hope - and certainly not a "fact"

The facts are the footage - and from that alone, it doesnt look good for the Juddster.

I can see that you are trying to be objective, but you probably need to keep trying... ;)

Where did I say that it was a fact

Dispute any of the 3 facts I listed - the basis of which I made my no suspension conclusion

I don't need to keep trying because you have not told me anything I did not already know and built into my summary

Maybe there is some way we can have a little wager on it through betfair ie if you think it is a fact that he will be suspended ;)
 

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Where did I say that it was a fact

Dispute any of the 3 facts I listed - the basis of which I made my no suspension conclusion

I don't need to keep trying because you have not told me anything I did not already know and built into my summary

Maybe there is some way we can have a little wager on it through betfair ie if you think it is a fact that he will be suspended ;)
Judd was just on fox sports news admitting that he was pressing his thumb into a pressure point behind Rischetell's ear, said there was no contact to the eyes and was confident that he would play in round 1.

Not sure why you would admit to even doing that on national tv but thats Judd i suppose.
 
I haven't seen the incident as I was at the game last night but talking to some of the Carlton boys this morning, they are all saying he will be gone unfortunately.
 
Bit strange. Judd actually was pushing him behind his ear trying to get him to release a tackle on a Carlton player. If you watch the footage closely, his finger clearly NEVER makes contact with the eyes (sorry to disappoint bitter anti-Carlton supporters). Closest was about 2-3 cm after the player turned his head (see below)

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Can you get suspended for pushing on someone's ear? :)
 

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Judd was just on fox sports news admitting that he was pressing his thumb into a pressure point behind Rischetell's ear, said there was no contact to the eyes and was confident that he would play in round 1.

Not sure why you would admit to even doing that on national tv but thats Judd i suppose.

Well if that is the case - I think he is feeling very guilty about 'nearly' making eye contact because I cannot see how that story makes any sense as I cannot see that his thumb is anywhere near behind his ear :confused:
 
He was pushing his thumb in the pressure point under Rischitelli's earlobe? That is still pretty dirty. Someone of his calibre shouldn't have to resort to stuff like that.

Regardless of the above "proof", in the video his fingers are in the eyes as well as pressing behind the earlobe.
 
When I saw the incident last night it didn't look as if his fingers were in his eyes. But you still have to worry about what he was actually doing. It doesn't look good either way.
 
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