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Of course. One was a devastating talent who emerged against serious teams. The other was a young bit-part recruit. Milburn would probably have contributed more than Duncan.
On both sides there are outlandish, extremist claims. Let's just ignore these, it's close a strawman argument, saying all pro and neg Scott people sit with the people at the outer most extremes. I haven't agreed with everything you've said in general, but in regards to Scott, you and many other "critics" have been fair, reasonable and accurate. It's time to stop making caricatures of the people who put time and effort into their critiques. Healthy debate, fine. But sometimes it goes beyond that. From the other side, as well.
Definitely. Glad you covered the other side, because those arguments are just as flimsy. To be honest there are like 80% of us sitting between those posts, and waging a war makes the discussions mean nothing. We've had a while with the guy, and each other - inflammatory stuff should fall to the way side. From my own position, I have more doubt than excitement. But someone in the reverse position is not an idiot.
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No they don't. If Ablett had been playing they would possibly not have picked a midfielder for the bench. But he wasn't and they did. Duncan took his chance as a midfielder, they changed the forward line after Pods went off.
That's ok. When I find things confusing I take a deep breath and type some bullsh*t too.
Yep. Both of them.
IIRC, Duncan was sub. Remember we had subs. Pods off injured. Menzel not injured, no Duncan.
Yeah Probs not. I'd say Menzel would of started, Stokes would of been sub.
Menzel was in outrageous form in late 2011. The what-ifs are sad in his case.
NOBODY here would suggest he is flawless. He needs defending on this thread only because some of the attacks are ignorant. Some are spot on. If the attacks weren't so feral, this thread would be dead.
There is one who suggests he's flawless, but otherwise agree wholeheartedly.
The reason this thread exists the way it does is because a few years ago anyone who criticized him were attacked so damn harshly, (and personally) they attacked back just as hard and then so on from both sides.
Serious question: as unlikely as it might seem, do you think a premiership in 2019 will finish this thread off?
Hell yeah it would! If we win a flag I'll call CS a dead set genius and I'll buy Vdubs and GC26 a slab.
To say the 'Best' player in the game is subjective and I don't believe that he was even the best player in the Cats team back then; Scarlett/Corey/Clinger.
You might.
Ling was better than Ablett in 2010. Err, ok.
It's never going to happen so you shouldn't work yourself up about what people might say haha
Again, It's subjective and as far as team needs go he was coz the Cats could put Clinger on opposition players to shut them down! Ablett couldn't do that and was like the opposite coz the Cats couldn't build a structure around a 'loose cannon' like that! Yeah, Clinger and Corey were the Gatekeepers but Ablett used to leave the gate open too often for them to cover imo!
I wasn't predicting anything other than the response.
Err, ok.
Cause he was so much more damaging than anyone else. Why limit him to defensive pressure? Talk about playing to weaknesses.
