clarkson vs wallace vs eade

[rota69]

who is a better coach.

 

[Rule]

have to go with the amazing "rocket" eade

 

[paul scholes]

have to go with the amazing "rocket" eade

rocket has the edge, clarkson the most courageous for his re-building at hawthorn.Willing to cop it as a rookie coach is most gutsy.

 

[Hodgie15]

clarkeson... his done grreat as 1st year wiht us

 

[celtic_pride]

clarkeson... his done grreat as 1st year wiht us

what another Priority Pick year ...
Yeah right ...

 

[Hawkk]

what another Priority Pick year ...
Yeah right ...

Pot Kettle Black.....

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Eade has the rins on the board. He is the only one of these coaches to take his side to a Grand Final.

 

[Rich01]

clarkeson... his done grreat as 1st year wiht us

Would have to say Eade on 2005 performance, followed closely by Wallace (from 4 wins to 10 in 2005). Even hardcore hawk supporters have been questioning Clarkson's match day tactics which have been nothing short of ordinary. He is brave for taking a 100% youth focus with him, which will cost him games short term, and won't guarantee him seeing out that out as senior coach in the longer term.

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

rocket has the edge, clarkson the most courageous for his re-building at hawthorn.Willing to cop it as a rookie coach is most gutsy.

i agree but i will be bias and say clarko is better if not at least equal

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

Would have to say Eade on 2005 performance, followed closely by Wallace (from 4 wins to 10 in 2005). Even hardcore hawk supporters have been questioning Clarkson's match day tactics which have been nothing short of ordinary. He is brave for taking a 100% youth focus with him, which will cost him games short term, and won't guarantee him seeing out that out as senior coach in the longer term.

i don't have a problem as i can see what he is trying to do and i reckon they just might keep him on. as you and others have said he is brave for doing the youth thing and all and i reckon that will hit pay dirt in the end

 

[roge_3]

i agree but i will be bias and say clarko is better if not at least equal

By far Rodney Eade is the better coach of these 3... If not in the competition.. He is tactically better than any other coach.. His side may not have made the Grand Final this year but his game plan sure as h3ll did.

Wallace is purely a motivator.. When the sh*t hits the fan will always struggle.

Hard for Clarkson to be either in his position with the young list.. But he is still yet to show that he is able to match it tactically or motivationally with any of these 2.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

What exactly did Clarkson do apart from say "we will make finals in 2009" after a drubbing...

 

[CyberKev]

By far Rodney Eade is the better coach of these 3... If not in the competition.. He is tactically better than any other coach.. His side may not have made the Grand Final this year but his game plan sure as h3ll did.

Wallace is purely a motivator.. When the sh*t hits the fan will always struggle.

Hard for Clarkson to be either in his position with the young list.. But he is still yet to show that he is able to match it tactically or motivationally with any of these 2.

Spot on...

Couldn't have said it better.

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

What exactly did Clarkson do apart from say "we will make finals in 2009" after a drubbing...

he has not said that he told us at the start that there was a good chance that we would lose games he has not done a schwabby of saying we will win or be in a g/f this year all teams goals are to be in the g/f etc but that does not happen over night and we needed young blood as some of the old blood were leaving or got injured and then left etc so it is just as well that we blooded the young ones so to speak as i think 2006 will be even better for the hawks !

 

[DynamoUltra]

It's kind of stupid to place Clarkson in a poll against Eade and Wallace, considering he has only been a senior coach for 1 year. It's almost like saying Buckley vs Crawford vs Tambling.

At the present time, taking into account their past, Eade > Wallace, but we do not know where Clarkson stands.

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

It's kind of stupid to place Clarkson in a poll against Eade and Wallace, considering he has only been a senior coach for 1 year. It's almost like saying Buckley vs Crawford vs Tambling.

At the present time, taking into account their past, Eade > Wallace, but we do not know where Clarkson stands.

i will totally agree there give it a few more years before you can really do this with clarko

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Would have to say Eade on 2005 performance, followed closely by Wallace (from 4 wins to 10 in 2005). Even hardcore hawk supporters have been questioning Clarkson's match day tactics which have been nothing short of ordinary. He is brave for taking a 100% youth focus with him, which will cost him games short term, and won't guarantee him seeing out that out as senior coach in the longer term.

Clarkson copped it from some sections of the media for the 'keeping's off' style game-plan, but no-one else came up with a better alternative for a team playing to a 180cm Full-Forward.
It was this game-plan, and other match-day moves, that took us to big wins over much more highly opposition such as Brisbane, Melbourne and Freo (in Freo). He'll be better judged on this gameplan when, and if, we're still playing this way when we have some height to play through.

Dumb thread anyway, comparing a 1st year coach to 2x 10yr coaches. If it was Eade vs Wallace, I'd take Eade. But then, I'd take Eade over just about anyone, bar Leigh Matthews.

 

[tigerT]

Wallace is purely a motivator.. When the sh*t hits the fan will always struggle.

i think the guy can coach a bit as well
his record speaks for itself and just bc doggies fans still cant get over it, the fact is he turned a rabble of a side (and club) into one of the most aesthetically pleasing teams to watch play the game of AFL in a very short span of time... if they dont want to admit it fine. Im more than happy with wallace and what hes done with us in a short period of time, id take him over eade and any other coach without batting an eye

 

[Swifty_446]

It's kind of stupid to place Clarkson in a poll against Eade and Wallace, considering he has only been a senior coach for 1 year. It's almost like saying Buckley vs Crawford vs Tambling.

At the present time, taking into account their past, Eade > Wallace, but we do not know where Clarkson stands.

Right on the money.

 

[celtic_pride]

i agree but i will be bias and say clarko is better if not at least equal

Why for winning only 5 games this year ...
Yeah right.
Clarkson = Short Man's syndrome

 

[roge_3]

i think the guy can coach a bit as well

Never said he couldn't coach... He is purely a motivational coach though.. Not such a tactical coach... Both types are capable of taking sides to premierships..

Rodney Eade can tactically take an opposition side apart.. Like no other...

His flooding game plan has been used to great effect by several coaches since.. Including Wallace.. And will continue to be used in the future... He has revolutionised his game plan with the bulldogs to a point where he has taken the same list that performed poorly to half a win from finals..

Once Brown went down, all of a sudden the motivational side became a little more difficult..
But when Darcy went down, no panic, just a tactical readjustment.

 

[tigerT]

Never said he couldn't coach... He is purely a motivational coach though.. Not such a tactical coach... Both types are capable of taking sides to premierships..

Rodney Eade can tactically take an opposition side apart.. Like no other...

His flooding game plan has been used to great effect by several coaches since.. Including Wallace.. And will continue to be used in the future... He has revolutionised his game plan with the bulldogs to a point where he has taken the same list that performed poorly to half a win from finals..

Once Brown went down, all of a sudden the motivational side became a little more difficult..
But when Darcy went down, no panic, just a tactical readjustment.

maybe the fact the bullies are 4 years or so into rebuilding helped abit? and maybe bc our list is pretty ********e also contributed to us falling into a heap wen goldenboy brown went down?

They have a list that oozes class and it was just a matter of time before they clicked. Wallace is 1-2 years into the rebuild at the tigers and in the end how much seperated the 2 sides on the ladder? a bees d.ick?

Bollocks wallace isnt a tactical coach, hes one of the most pro-active game day coaches I've ever seen, his ability to create a mismatch and find weaknesses in the opposition is a gift. This nonsense that hes only a motivator is just garbage, total misconception which is typical of BF. Id back wallace in against rocket tactically any day of the week.

 

[Rich01]

Rodney Eade can tactically take an opposition side apart.. Like no other...

His flooding game plan has been used to great effect by several coaches since.. Including Wallace.. And will continue to be used in the future... He has revolutionised his game plan with the bulldogs to a point where he has taken the same list that performed poorly to half a win from finals..

Agreed. Interesting he has changed his tactics with the Bulldogs from Sydney. Sydney was all about tight contested man on man football with accountability the key. At the smaller Bulldogs, hard running counter attacking, pin point passing has become a feature. Quite similar to the plan being put in place by Wallace. Eade at Sydney was renowned for his match day preparation. It seems he is complementing this by getting has hands dirty at the bullies as well.

Once Brown went down, all of a sudden the motivational side became a little more difficult..
But when Darcy went down, no panic, just a tactical readjustment.

I don't understand where you are going here? You mean the entire Richmond philosphy was based around motivating Nathan Brown? Or making the team believe in Brown's abilities? Motivation obviously had nothing to do with it.

Brown is a class player and we based a lot of our game and forward attacks around him and Richo. We lost him and we lost an avenue to goal.

No panic with Darcy going down... it's the preseason. Let's see how it plays out in 2006. The one positive is that Eade has all summer to find that extra avenue to goal.

 

[roge_3]

maybe the fact the bullies are 4 years or so into rebuilding helped abit? and maybe bc our list is pretty ********e also contributed to us falling into a heap wen goldenboy brown went down?

They have a list that oozes class and it was just a matter of time before they clicked. Wallace is 1-2 years into the rebuild at the tigers and in the end how much seperated the 2 sides on the ladder? a bees d.ick?

Bollocks wallace isnt a tactical coach, hes one of the most pro-active game day coaches I've ever seen, his ability to create a mismatch and find weaknesses in the opposition is a gift. This nonsense that hes only a motivator is just garbage, total misconception which is typical of BF. Id back wallace in against rocket tactically any day of the week.

Are you serious??? Point out this Pro-Active tactical approach that Wallace has taken as part of his master stoke??? When has he provided such a mismatch that he is above a coach of Eade's ilk???
You really only read what you want to see dont you?? There are different categories of coaches. Tactical and Motivational.. Every week Wallace is looking for something new to motivate his team, generally his side is exactly the same, with very little variety.. Hence the collapse when the tactically smart Nathan Brown went down... Deledio may help, seems to be a smart footballer.. The rest are fed through emotion.. Bottom Line.

 

[roge_3]

Agreed. Interesting he has changed his tactics with the Bulldogs from Sydney. Sydney was all about tight contested man on man football with accountability the key. At the smaller Bulldogs, hard running counter attacking, pin point passing has become a feature. Quite similar to the plan being put in place by Wallace. Eade at Sydney was renowned for his match day preparation. It seems he is complementing this by getting has hands dirty at the bullies as well.



I don't understand where you are going here? You mean the entire Richmond philosphy was based around motivating Nathan Brown? Or making the team believe in Brown's abilities? Motivation obviously had nothing to do with it.

Brown is a class player and we based a lot of our game and forward attacks around him and Richo. We lost him and we lost an avenue to goal.

No panic with Darcy going down... it's the preseason. Let's see how it plays out in 2006. The one positive is that Eade has all summer to find that extra avenue to goal.

No no, I believe that when a player of the class of Brown went down, it made it harder to push that motivation, especially when the key player in the side, and a man in exceptional form goes down.
I agree that he is a key player.. Probably the key for the Tige's...

As for the no panic when Darcy went down, my point was when he went down last year... The doggies picked up and continued the fight toward finals, the way they finished the season showed that Rocket finally instilled a belief in those talented youngsters... And what he has done with players such as Cooney and Griffen is a revelation.