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Yep like most others going with the england team from Melbourne and Sydney minus Collingwood with Hussey his replacement. Haddin has been one of Australia's best but still abit behind prior although Englands bowlers made Prior look good with the amount of edges through to the keeper.
 

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biggest call to be made is between Hussey and Watson for the last 'batting' spot.

I don't think I can recall us being so resoundingly beaten, ever. I can remember when Boon debuted too.
 
Are people picking Swan because they think a spinner should be picked.
Swan has been no where near in the best 4 bowlers of the series.
Actually been shite alot of the time.
 
Are people picking Swan because they think a spinner should be picked.
Swan has been no where near in the best 4 bowlers of the series.
Actually been shite alot of the time.

You dont understand cricket then. How many wickets have fallen at the other end while he's been bowling.

Hussey in, Collingwood out, done.
 
biggest call to be made is between Hussey and Watson for the last 'batting' spot.

I don't think I can recall us being so resoundingly beaten, ever. I can remember when Boon debuted too.

That period from 84 to 86 when the Windies knocked us over for 76 in Perth and the following summer when Hadlee took 15 poles at the Gabba and Martin Crowe made 188 come pretty damn close.

Hussey gets our only spot for mine. Every time I see that bloody Vodaphone ad I just think 'bring your Nan on once Watson's got 40 and she'll get him for sure.'
 
Concur,

1 strauss - marginally ahead of watto
2 Cook
3 Trott
4 Pieterson
5 Hussey
6 Bell
7 Prior (same batting average as haddin and 3 times as many takes and fewer byes per innings)
8. Bresnan (would be our no.4 batsman)
9. harris
10. Tremlett
11. Anderson
 
Concur,

strauss - marginally ahead of watto
Cook
Trott
Pieterson
Hussey
Bell
Prior (same batting average as haddin and 3 times as many takes and fewer byes per innings)
8. Bresnan (would be our no.4 batsman)
9. harris
10. Tremlett
11. Anderson

Haddin doesn't get any help from MJ constantly spraying them three feet down the leg side. I bet most of his byes would be the result of that.
 
Prior pushed Haddin out today. Great innings, and sheer weight of dismissals has to count for something for the WK position. I think about 5 poms have taken as many catches as Haddin! A drop here or there and I just can't fit him in my side.

Plus I can't believe any selector in the world would put Watson as opener ahead of Strauss. If Bell wasn't in such fine form I'd put Watson #6 (where he should be anyway).

Hussey and Siddle the only Aussies for mine, and Siddle could easily miss.
 
SRSLY what the hell has Strauss done not to get picked over Watson? Strauss has out-thought and out-captained us at every turn, while Watson has picked up a few wickets, moped in the media, and been involved in three terrible run outs. Surely the non-batting contributions Strauss has made outweighs the small advantage Watson's batting would otherwise give him over Strauss. Let's not forget Watson has had three more innings as well.

Strauss (c)
Cook
Trott
Pietersen
Hussey
Bell
Haddin (his fighting runs scored under much more pressure than Prior)
Swann
Siddle (over Bresnan - just)
Anderson
Tremlett
 

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Haddin doesn't get any help from MJ constantly spraying them three feet down the leg side. I bet most of his byes would be the result of that.

haddin doesn't get any help because his form with the bat is only when hussey or clarke was there with him, he gets out quickly when batting with the tail, he also dropped 3 catches this series plus the one he didn't even bother going for, as soon as huss goes out, he goes the tonk and gets out, instead of marshalling the strike and extracting valuable runs from the tail.

Prior is an equivalent batsman on numbers, is a better batsmen on discipline, and is a better keeper, and thats why prior on the form of this series gets selected ahead of haddin.

That said, haddin was virtually batting at no.4 for much of this series as punter, clarke, smith and hughes would have about as much value as 1 batsman between them.
 
Watson
Cook
Trott
Pietersen
Hussey
Bell
Haddin
Swann
Bresnan
Anderson
Tremlett

Reason:
Watson - More runs, higher average, has faced better bowlers and hasnt had the Rock of Gibraltar at the other end.
Haddin - Yeah he gave away a few byes but if you had Midge sling down deliveries a metre outside leg stump you'd give away a few too. Made more runs, not Prior's fault he didnt get an opportunity.
 
Cant work out how Strauss has been picked in some of these sides over Watto.

Watson as averaged 48 against a good bowling attack that has blown the rest of our batsman away. Strauss on the other hand has an average of 43 against our shite attack, Oh he made a hundred I hear you say? Yup a massive 110 to go along with with 3 half centuries (oh no didnt go on with it) 0, 1 & 15.

Its not like his captaincy has been anything to rave about. If anything with a decent captain the English probably would of eats us by more (if possible)
 
Hussey is the only Australian player that is a lock in a combined side. Haddin is debatable. His batting early in the series with Hussey made Australian scores a little more respectable, but Prior was the better wicketkeeper.

Any moron who includes an Australian bowler in the line-up is a moron. It's because of the ineptitude of the Australian bowlers, and the exceptional performance of the English that this series was so one-sided. I dont care if Siddle (x2), Johnson & Harris got 6-fers in an innings, they were as useful as a toilet brush without bristles for most of the series. The Australian bowlers were so ineffective most of the time, England scored more than 500 runs in 4 of their 7 innings in this series. They scored 517 runs in the 2nd innings for the loss of just 1 wicket in Brisbane, another 620 in their only innings in Adelaide for the loss of just 5 wickets, and scored a record 644 in an innings in Sydney. of 100 possible wickets in the entire series, the Australians only achieved 56. some may argue that the reason for this is because they had 3 less innings in which to bowl, but their absolute shithouse performances in most of the others contributed to this.


Strauss (C)
Cook
Trott
Pietersen
Hussey
Bell
Prior
Bresnan
Swann
Anderson
Tremlett
Finn (12th man)
 
haddin doesn't get any help because his form with the bat is only when hussey or clarke was there with him, he gets out quickly when batting with the tail, he also dropped 3 catches this series plus the one he didn't even bother going for, as soon as huss goes out, he goes the tonk and gets out, instead of marshalling the strike and extracting valuable runs from the tail.

Prior is an equivalent batsman on numbers, is a better batsmen on discipline, and is a better keeper, and thats why prior on the form of this series gets selected ahead of haddin.

That said, haddin was virtually batting at no.4 for much of this series as punter, clarke, smith and hughes would have about as much value as 1 batsman between them.

Fair enough. You've almost convinced me to change to Prior with that post!!
 

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This is Kerry and Aggers team just brainstormed

Cook

Strauss

Trott

Pietersen

Hussey

Bell

Prior

Swann

Bresnan

Anderson

Tremlett

I think they've got it about right.

It's pretty hard to make a case for any of the Australian players other than Hussey. You probably would have picked Haddin a couple of tests ago but I think Prior has edged past him now with a couple of big innings and his keeping has been better.
 
You dont understand cricket then. How many wickets have fallen at the other end while he's been bowling.

Hussey in, Collingwood out, done.


ROFL embarrassing comment. Logic not your strong point hey:rolleyes:

The object is to pick then best players of the summer, not to hand out token 'encouragement' awards.

I was also watching while wickets were fallin, do i get some credit also:rolleyes::o
 
Cook (c)
Watson
Trott
Pieterson
Hussey
Bell
Prior
Swann
Bresnan
Tremlett
Anderson

Watson scored an average of 48 against a quality bowling attack, in comparison with Strauss' 42 against a pop-gun attack (which in previous years would have barely qualified as Grade cricket standard).

Hussey vs Collingwood is a no-brainer.

Prior has it all over Haddin for the keeper's job. Better batting average (50 vs 45) and didn't cost his team nearly as many runs in byes and dropped catches.

Bresnan picked ahead of Finn. Finn might have taken more wickets, but he mostly bowled rubbish. Bresnan's bowling was far more impressive.
 
Cook
Watson
Trott
Pieterson
Hussey
Bell
Prior
Swann
Bresnan
Anderson
Tremlett


Haddin threw his wicket away far too many times when we needed him. Didn't rate Finn ahead of Bresnan or Tremlett. Watson did much better in much more trying circumstances than Strauss (and bowled well too).
 
I'd have Haddin ahead of Prior.

Both made one century, but Haddin's was essentially a match saving innings, whilst Prior's was basically in junk time.

Haddin had three 50s to go along with it. I think the bye statistic doesn't tell the real story.
 

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