Opinion Commentary & Media V

[RossHenshaw]

Brian Taylor just confused Sam Durdin and Corey Durdin.

He gets paid handsomely and he’s a complete cockthistle.

I can’t believe he said that ?! Heard that too ?! What a flog !
He asked why Durdin wasn’t playing like this at North?! Wtf ?!
BT is just a fat flog with a full BS huge mouthpiece.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Shinboner1]

Majority of our list wouldn't be getting a senior game at another club.

 

[nicko74]

Kingy bang on there

 

[shintemaster]

Kingy bang on there

Tough, but fair. The point hidden in his statement of course - why hasn't the club made this tough call? Why did it let itself get into this position when already last year they had to reinvent JZ to find a role? Surely even if you think he did a solid job in that position that's an indicator that maybe it is time to start rolling him out of the leadership positions?

I don't want to dig in too much on the Captain because when all is said and done I don't believe it is will or effort, I think his body can't do it anymore and it really is on him and the club to have seen that. He might be able to contribute in a better team but when you're one of a small handful of experienced senior players there ain't much room to hide and you can't rely on younger better players making your day easier.

 

[giantroo]

 

[koshari]

Wow, hardly going out on a limb with that call! It's pretty sad for jack, his service absolutely can't be criticized but blind Freddy can see the games past him. Still sadly tries his gut out however. And due to shortsighted list management there are no players to displace him presently.

 

[Themanbun]

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He's played like 10 games. Very much is on his L Plates

 

[Roosurgence]

He's played like 10 games. Very much is on his L Plates

Not sure I get the cross on brining in a young Ruck / Forward who is still learning his craft, but if it’s a cross on the deal we did to get him, that’s different.

 

[justroyal]

I very much enjoy watching CCJ compared to Xerri. Seems like he fits the Goldstein replacement more than Xerri

 

[rickety]

Not sure I get the cross on brining in a young Ruck / Forward who is still learning his craft, but if it’s a cross on the deal we did to get him, that’s different.

A bit early though to make that call I reckon.

 

[justroyal]

King must be feeling like he sounds like a broken record - but he is totally right and is the only person holding these guys accountable from the media and from a north point of view.
Jack really did pull one over the club by asking and getting two years. Poor form when your on-field work goes unsighted

 

[Roosurgence]

A bit early though to make that call I reckon.

It’s not too early at all.

Even if CCJ is a future Brownlow Medalist we can all agree that the deal was overs considering his output at Richmond and the leverage / bargaining position we had.

A shrewd operator would have used every ounce of leverage and came up with a better result than we did. We were told we paid a premium out of some good faith bargaining, which is ludicrous given our position as a club.

Do you think Melbourne paid a premium for Ben Brown out of good faith? No they used the leverage of our botched Contract negotiations and picked him up for a bargain.

A good operator would have maxed out the fear of Richmond losing him to the PSD for nothing. Instead we forked over a potential Pick 19/20 which is a huge commodity on Draft Night.

 

[rickety]

It’s not too early at all.

Even if CCJ is a future Brownlow Medalist we can all agree that the deal was overs considering the leverage and bargaining position we had.

A shrewd operator would have used every ounce of leverage and came up with a better result than we did. We were told we paid a premium out of some good faith bargaining, which is ludicrous given our position as a club.

Do you think Melbourne paid a premium for Ben Brown out of good faith? No they used the leverage of our botched Contract negotiations and picked him up for a bargain.

Oh yeah, sorry covid brain. He may turn into an absolute gun, but the ass about way we ended up caving in was quite dire.

 

[Le Grille]

It’s not too early at all.

Even if CCJ is a future Brownlow Medalist we can all agree that the deal was overs considering his output at Richmond and the leverage / bargaining position we had.

A shrewd operator would have used every ounce of leverage and came up with a better result than we did. We were told we paid a premium out of some good faith bargaining, which is ludicrous given our position as a club.

Do you think Melbourne paid a premium for Ben Brown out of good faith? No they used the leverage of our botched Contract negotiations and picked him up for a bargain.

A good operator would have maxed out the fear of Richmond losing him to the PSD for nothing. Instead we forked over a potential Pick 19/20 which is a huge commodity on Draft Night.

Yeah.

The comment that pick twenty wouldn’t be involved (obv the 2021 pick) then doing that deal was classic doublespeak.

Still not sure he makes it (although there’s glimmers) which makes it all worse

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

King must be feeling like he sounds like a broken record - but he is totally right and is the only person holding these guys accountable from the media and from a north point of view.
Jack really did pull one over the club by asking and getting two years. Poor form when your on-field work goes unsighted

Agree - we need alot more critical thinking if we are going to get out of this mess - not the NMFC official wishful thinking line of 'it will turn'.

Kingy is the only external person undertaking this level of thinking because he still deeply cares for the club. He can see this whole so called 'rebuild' turning out horribly for us under the current off field and on field leadership.

 

[shintemaster]

It’s not too early at all.

Even if CCJ is a future Brownlow Medalist we can all agree that the deal was overs considering his output at Richmond and the leverage / bargaining position we had.

A shrewd operator would have used every ounce of leverage and came up with a better result than we did. We were told we paid a premium out of some good faith bargaining, which is ludicrous given our position as a club.

Do you think Melbourne paid a premium for Ben Brown out of good faith? No they used the leverage of our botched Contract negotiations and picked him up for a bargain.

A good operator would have maxed out the fear of Richmond losing him to the PSD for nothing. Instead we forked over a potential Pick 19/20 which is a huge commodity on Draft Night.

Respect your opinion but irrespective of what we paid, if CCJ turns out to be a future Brownlow Medalist I suspect the consensus will be that we paid a fair price.

 

[Nordland]

I can’t believe he said that ?! Heard that too ?! What a flog !
He asked why Durdin wasn’t playing like this at North?! Wtf ?!
BT is just a fat flog with a full BS huge mouthpiece.
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More people need to call this buffoon out. I can't listen to him at all - he's an biased embarrassment.

 

[Nordland]

Kingy bang on there

About bloody time - is he the only one actually watching us?
These media pundits a fuggin clueless.
Don't you have to have some basic level of knowledge, and at least try and conceal bias to be a 'pundit'?

 

[Roogal]

Wow, hardly going out on a limb with that call! It's pretty sad for jack, his service absolutely can't be criticized but blind Freddy can see the games past him. Still sadly tries his gut out however. And due to shortsighted list management there are no players to displace him presently.

Perhaps Jack is the best of a lousy bunch?

 

[William Caresser]

There's been no heir apparent to Jack and based on this year there still isn't. Simpkin doesn't work nearly hard enough defensively and his disposal is a problem. McDonald has been average after the blinder he played in R1. They were probably hoping someone would emerge this year.

At a pinch, Jack could still play OK as a midsize forward in a good side. Unfortunately we have a lot of players who are like that - they rely on having good players around them to play well themselves.

LDU and Horne-Francis don't rely on others to play well. Both win their own ball and pressure the opposition. That's what you want in a captain but neither are ready yet.

 

[blackshadow]

It’s not too early at all.

Even if CCJ is a future Brownlow Medalist we can all agree that the deal was overs considering his output at Richmond and the leverage / bargaining position we had.

A shrewd operator would have used every ounce of leverage and came up with a better result than we did. We were told we paid a premium out of some good faith bargaining, which is ludicrous given our position as a club.

Do you think Melbourne paid a premium for Ben Brown out of good faith? No they used the leverage of our botched Contract negotiations and picked him up for a bargain.

A good operator would have maxed out the fear of Richmond losing him to the PSD for nothing. Instead we forked over a potential Pick 19/20 which is a huge commodity on Draft Night.

And pray tell just how many trade deals have you negotiated mr smooth operator? Are you aware of all the moving parts in the various deals?

 

[koshari]

King must be feeling like he sounds like a broken record - but he is totally right and is the only person holding these guys accountable from the media and from a north point of view.
Jack really did pull one over the club by asking and getting two years. Poor form when your on-field work goes unsighted

cant blame him, the standards were set with polec for example but they should have had the stones to say, nope this isnt going on anymore, fwiw i thought ben browns contract was a line in the sand momenet but then this.

 

[Val Keating]

It’s not too early at all.

Even if CCJ is a future Brownlow Medalist we can all agree that the deal was overs considering his output at Richmond and the leverage / bargaining position we had.

A shrewd operator would have used every ounce of leverage and came up with a better result than we did. We were told we paid a premium out of some good faith bargaining, which is ludicrous given our position as a club.

Do you think Melbourne paid a premium for Ben Brown out of good faith? No they used the leverage of our botched Contract negotiations and picked him up for a bargain.

A good operator would have maxed out the fear of Richmond losing him to the PSD for nothing. Instead we forked over a potential Pick 19/20 which is a huge commodity on Draft Night.

It’s not that bad giving up a second rounder if we think he’s going to replace Goldy AND we think Cooper will be a second round selection, which is looking likely.

 

[koshari]

Perhaps Jack is the best of a lousy bunch?

No doubt when it comes to some metrics and you could likely say the same for Kayne and Mahoney, I don't doubt that they are all trying their best but the issue is that sadly their best inst competitive atm. sport is littered with competitors trying their best but being beaten by lack of ability from Eddie the Eagle to Eric the Eel. At least in JZs case he has been at the top before. and again i still dont think there are any ressies that displace him as best 22 atm.