List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Animaluke]

Any out of contract player automatically become an UFA for Tassie, I believe.

Ahhh yep pretty much what you said. Just googled it too.

"The ability to sign one uncontracted player from each club total across two trade periods as a free agent, with those clubs being given draft compensation"

Across two trade periods kinda means that by like 2026 or whatever we wanna have our key players signed up to atleast a 3 year contract starting 2026? Is that when the Tassie team is starting to draft? For a 2028 first season?

 

[EdCurnowRules]

Jameson goes before Barnett surely...

Look he might be playing shit but I'm his sponsor so you can all get ****ed

This is how I feel about Bernett or whatever the **** his name is, because I'm Jamo's sponsor.

I will cut you W_T_W

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

There’s defeatism and then there’s realism. What possible reason would Rowell have to come to west coast.

I hate this shit.

Why did Dunkley go to Brisbane? Or Daniher? Or Grundy go to Sydney instead of Adelaide?

We live in the past as a club and as supporters.

You get out there and you sell your club. Post-career options, lifestyle, stadium etc.

Clearly it’s hard to sell the club atm with our on field results, but it won’t always be like that.

According to this board we should limit our scope of players we want to bring to our club to just WA born players.

It’s such a losing strategy.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I hate this shit.

Why did Dunkley go to Brisbane? Or Daniher? Or Grundy go to Sydney instead of Adelaide?

We live in the past as a club and as supporters.

You get out there and you sell your club. Post-career options, lifestyle, stadium etc.

Clearly it’s hard to sell the club atm with our on field results, but it won’t always be like that.

According to this board we should limit our scope of players we want to bring to our club to just WA born players.

It’s such a losing strategy.

Those players all went to clubs that were pushing into title challenges, we can certainly push for players, but we need to show the future is nearly here, which we can't at the moment.

 

[squashface]

I hate this shit.

Why did Dunkley go to Brisbane? Or Daniher? Or Grundy go to Sydney instead of Adelaide?

We live in the past as a club and as supporters.

You get out there and you sell your club. Post-career options, lifestyle, stadium etc.

Clearly it’s hard to sell the club atm with our on field results, but it won’t always be like that.

According to this board we should limit our scope of players we want to bring to our club to just WA born players.

It’s such a losing strategy.

You are confusing what the club does and what posters on an online forum say.

No one is saying that the club shouldn't be out there chasing guys like Rowell, Bont, Cripps and making the sell.

It is however, realistic for us to think that they are going to have no interest in coming.

 

[bzparkes]

Ahhh yep pretty much what you said. Just googled it too.

"The ability to sign one uncontracted player from each club total across two trade periods as a free agent, with those clubs being given draft compensation"

Across two trade periods kinda means that by like 2026 or whatever we wanna have our key players signed up to atleast a 3 year contract starting 2026? Is that when the Tassie team is starting to draft? For a 2028 first season?

Not entirely sure of the signing dates but I'd presume it'd start the trade period before they enter the comp. Be a bit weird to have big name players playing VFL for a year, IMO.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

You are confusing what the club does and what posters on an online forum say.

No one is saying that the club shouldn't be out there chasing guys like Rowell, Bont, Cripps and making the sell.

It is however, realistic for us to think that they are going to have no interest in coming.

No I’m not. The view of supporters is influenced by years and years of watching the club and the players they’re linked to and interested in.

There’s zero doubt we have focussed to narrowly on certain players and been too passive/not aggressive enough in the trade space.

Simmo even said this himself.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

No I’m not. The view of supporters is influenced by years and years of watching the club and the players they’re linked to and interested in.

There’s zero doubt we have focussed to narrowly on certain players and been too passive/not aggressive enough in the trade space.

Simmo even said this himself.

Who are the top 5 non WA players that Freo or West Coast have bought to the club (outside of the draft)?

 

[Dark Sharks]

Might as well just add lifelong Pies fan and superstar Nic Daicos to the list of players West Coast should be targetting, for the purpose of this discussion.

It's just as realistic.

What about Sam Darcy gaiz?

 

[Lazzas]

100% this.

We should have made Tim English the godfather offer.

We're now left with Flynn who can't perform in the 1's and Williams who can't run out 4 qtrs.

We really should be looking at a player like Steele Sidebottom this year to come across in that coaching/playing hybrid role on not big $ and a good trade price. Dayne Zorko would be another option too. Both have been there when squads have been where we are and seen it come back. Both know the standards required.

Perhaps a player like Sidebottom. Not actually him though.

WATCH: Sidebottom to take alcohol course after drunken night, COVID ban

Steele Sidebottom has formally apologised for his breach of the AFL's strict COVID-19

www.afl.com.au

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

I love some of the names that get thrown up here, we are currently as attractive as club for oppo players as Dark Sharks in a wig and lingerie.

I reckon Dev Rob would still knock West Coast back and rather play VFL for the lions.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Who are the top 5 non WA players that Freo or West Coast have bought to the club (outside of the draft)?

You’re making my point for me.

If we are going to compete in a market with increasing player movement, we can’t rely on just bringing WA players back to WA.

If Brisbane can attract players like Daniher, Dunkley and even Oscar then we should 100% have a wider net than just WA players.

There are alot of selling points for us and our club. Granted we need to get competitive on field first.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

You’re making my point for me.

If we are going to compete in a market with increasing player movement, we can’t rely on just bringing WA players back to WA.

If Brisbane can attract players like Daniher, Dunkley and even Oscar then we should 100% have a wider net than just WA players.

There are alot of selling points for us and our club. Granted we need to get competitive on field first.

I'm not disagreeing that we shouldn't ask the question, but you have to be practical.

So far, who are the top 5 non-WA players that have moved to WA?

Noting that Brisbane has a shorter flight time to Adelaide, let alone Melbourne and Sydney, than Perth to Adelaide.

 

[Coasters7]

You are confusing what the club does and what posters on an online forum say.

No one is saying that the club shouldn't be out there chasing guys like Rowell, Bont, Cripps and making the sell.

It is however, realistic for us to think that they are going to have no interest in coming.

Does sort of feel that’s how the club is run as well though. “Ah we’re no chance at them so why bother trying” and then we go and overcommit to the B grade WA talent because we’re over the moon that someone actually wants to come home.

I could be wrong but it doesn’t feel like we throw our weight around enough in regards to player movement or staff acquisitions. Obviously a lot harder to do from where we are and in the modern era is pretty much impossible to chase non WA players, but we definitely have the money to do it.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Not sure if this has been posted in here but Twomey has started talking about the compromised nature of the drafts this year , and going forward citing strength of the northern academies in particular.

Argues for a 2nd first round pick in the middle of the first round for bottom four clubs.

If this had been in effect we would have had

2022: 2, 12
2023: 1,11
2024: 3,13

That would actually help teams rebuild rather than the current system.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Might as well just add lifelong Pies fan and superstar Nic Daicos to the list of players West Coast should be targetting, for the purpose of this discussion.

It's just as realistic.

What about Sam Darcy gaiz?

I know you liked my comment that said this exact same thing kent

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I'm not disagreeing that we shouldn't ask the question, but you have to be practical.

So far, who are the top 5 non-WA players that have moved to WA?

Noting that Brisbane has a shorter flight time to Adelaide, let alone Melbourne and Sydney, than Perth to Adelaide.

Are there benefits of being on the east coast? Yes. Are there benefits of playing in the west, such definitley. Just look at the players we have brought over and who have never left and gone home even after they stopped playing.

We put these weird restrictions on ourselves as a trading club

Can’t trade out players who are WA players

Can’t trade in players who aren’t from WA.

We hamstring ourselves in both sense.

With the introduction of free agency and increase fluidity in trade market we look and sound so out of date and have been completely left behind.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Does sort of feel that’s how the club is run as well though. “Ah we’re no chance at them so why bother trying” and then we go and overcommit to the B grade WA talent because we’re over the moon that someone actually wants to come home.

I could be wrong but it doesn’t feel like we throw our weight around enough in regards to player movement or staff acquisitions. A lot harder to do from where we are and in the modern era is pretty much impossible to chase non WA players, but we definitely have the money to do it.

I would bet good money that we've approached a stack of non-WA players and gauged their interest, and had hard no's come back.

For stars, we can't offer that much more money than at least one or two of the other 16 non-WA clubs couldn't find, in any given year, a comparable amount for. At that stage it then becomes very very hard to convince a player to move to Perth if they have no connection there.

 

[Dark Sharks]

I've got it!

What about the Ashcroft brothers??

Surely we can throw a huuuuuge offer and get them both over here? I mean, is our club serious about winning flags or not??



Discuss.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I would bet good money that we've approached a stack of non-WA players and gauged their interest, and had hard no's come back.

For stars, we can't offer that much more money than at least one or two of the other 16 non-WA clubs couldn't find, in any given year, a comparable amount for. At that stage it then becomes very very hard to convince a player to move to Perth if they have no connection there.

Simmo was asked about trade targets on SEN recently.

He reflected on the aggressive poaching strategy that has become increasingly common in AFL, and stated that West Coast’s main strategy is to keep tabs on WA players at other clubs
.
That’s an insane strategy that only accounts for about 15% of players in the comp.

Simmo said he was surprised that Redden wanted to come to us as he has no links to the club.

This is the type of thinking and philosophy that will not lead to success.

Trading is just too big a part of list management and listing building in 2025 for this to be your philosophy.

Lions wouldn’t have a flag if they didn’t get Daniher and Dunkley, two players who had zero connection to QLD.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I've got it!

What about the Ashcroft brothers??

Surely we can throw a huuuuuge offer and get them both over here? I mean, is our club serious about winning flags or not??



Discuss.

Trade them for Dark Sharks and a bag of twisties.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Are there benefits of being on the east coast? Yes. Are there benefits of playing in the west, such definitley. Just look at the players we have brought over and who have never left and gone home even after they stopped playing.

We put these weird restrictions on ourselves as a trading club

Can’t trade out players who are WA players

Can’t trade in players who aren’t from WA.

We hamstring ourselves in both sense.

With the introduction of free agency and increase fluidity in trade market we look and sound so out of date and have been completely left behind.

Having players arrive in the draft and establish themselves in Perth is one thing, having, lets say, Tom De Konig come across in his mid 20's when he has all his connections in Melbourne is almost impossible.

Lets say we could offer him $1.5m a year, random Melbourne team (and there's be at least one capable of it each year) offer him $1.4m, he's not leaving.

The types of players you can get are the Hunt / Redden / Jack Graham types, where you pay overs and it's a material difference to them that another club isn't interested in matching.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Having players arrive in the draft and establish themselves in Perth is one thing, having, lets say, Tom De Konig come across in his mid 20's when he has all his connections in Melbourne is almost impossible.

Lets say we could offer him $1.5m a year, random Melbourne team (and there's be at least one capable of it each year) offer him $1.4m, he's not leaving.

The types of players you can get are the Hunt / Redden / Jack Graham types, where you pay overs and it's a material difference to them that another club isn't interested in matching.

Then we should just pack it up now.

Trading is too big a part of list building and list maintenance to be focussed exclusively on the draft and 15% of existing players in the comp.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Then we should just pack it up now.

Trading is too big a part of list building and list maintenance to be focussed exclusively on the draft and 15% of existing players in the comp.

Again, I'm sure they ask the question to everyone and find out pretty quickly if it's even a remote possibility they may be interested. For a lot it would be a straight hard no.

 

[Cuzz09]

I reckon despite Barnett not coming along maybe Adelaide be tempted into some kind of trade with Curtin and picks?