List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Dom sheed pocket]

Again, I'm sure they ask the question to everyone and find out pretty quickly if it's even a remote possibility they may be interested. For a lot it would be a straight hard no.

They don’t, we know they don’t becuase our coach for 11 years reckons they focussed on WA players and they were caught off guard and got left behind when it came to the shift to aggressive pitches based around lifestyle, post career option etc.

If they actually starting pursuing players with a more forward and aggressive pitch, more players would be interested.


They literally told us they dont and you’re in here saying “I’m sure they do x and y”.

 

[eaglevision]

Might be UFA, but unless they pay a fortune, or someone has a connection to Tassie they won't get many people taking up contract offers.

I would be genuinely astounded if Alex Pearce is not the inaugural captain of Tassie on a huge contract.

 

[WCE777]

Does sort of feel that’s how the club is run as well though. “Ah we’re no chance at them so why bother trying” and then we go and overcommit to the B grade WA talent because we’re over the moon that someone actually wants to come home.

I could be wrong but it doesn’t feel like we throw our weight around enough in regards to player movement or staff acquisitions. A lot harder to do from where we are and in the modern era is pretty much impossible to chase non WA players, but we definitely have the money to do it.

Long post.

Agree with the sentiment about what players realistically we can target and who will come.
WC list management is currently different in 2024 than was previously, that was shown when they cast their net wide and varied to bring in quality players from everywhere.

They just missed because of 2 reasons, where we are as a club and ability to attract non WA players to the club in our current state also.
This is a WA problem and will always be a WA problem, this doesn't stop our NEW list management team from asking the question and I actually think they have been very proactive starting last year.

So that said unless there is a WA connection, there is probably a less than 50% chance of attracting A & B grade players to the club unless there is significant overs paid $$.

That doesn't stop from attracting P Cripps, D Cameron, C Warner types, but in the current list space we are going to have to pay significant overs to get non OOC players to the club.

That also means the Rowells of the world are 0% chance of coming, and the J Wards are 50% of coming if the offer of extra $$ is significant enough.

Still not shut on the idea that Oscar stays, Warner comes and Cameron comes, it maybe a very good trade period or a trade period where we miss Warner for 2 years, Cameron comes in 2026 when OOC, we then shift focus to P Cripps and pay overs for 3 years to captain the club and bring elite standards to develop our next generation.

Then throw a bigger contract at a J Ward who is a B grade mid with upside.
We have the $$ and list spots, cull our list harder to accommodate, use all our other available draft capital to draft elite mids x 2 and perhaps a KDEF option.

 

[UseR2006]

They don’t, we know they don’t becuase our coach for 11 years reckons they focussed on WA players and they were caught off guard and got left behind when it came to the shift to aggressive pitches based around lifestyle, post career option etc.

If they actually starting pursuing players with a more forward and aggressive pitch, more players would be interested.


They literally told us they dont and you’re in here saying “I’m sure they do x and y”.

Well it's good then that our recruiting team got changed and we have a new coach.

So why are we moaning about people that are no longer at the club?

 

[Coasters7]

Again, I'm sure they ask the question to everyone and find out pretty quickly if it's even a remote possibility they may be interested. For a lot it would be a straight hard no.

The other side to that coin is: have we done enough to establish ourselves as a prestigious club to make location redundant, because we’ve certainly had the opportunity and wealth to do so.

 

[javaguice]

Why don't we just get Cripps, Bont and Rowell?

 

[Boohemian]

Clearly we're still at the bargaining stage of grief here boys.

The sooner we get onto depression and acceptance the better.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Clearly we're still at the bargaining stage of grief here boys.

The sooner we get onto depression and acceptance the better.

I think you’ll find that if you accept we won’t get Daicos, Cripps, Bont and both Ashcrofts, that shows the exact lack of killer instinct that got us in this mess.

 

[kane249]

I would be genuinely astounded if Alex Pearce is not the inaugural captain of Tassie on a huge contract.

Will be 33 then, would be a big call to give him huge coin at that age

 

[Elite Pete]

yes but without some decent recruiting of some good senior players (we don't have many good senior players), the kids won't develop. Go and get Paddy Cripps on a 3 year gig. He won't win a cup with either Carlton or West Coast but he could be a great on field leader and help develop the younglings, you get one big name in , others might follow and some key younglings might stay.

Neale imo would be an unlikely but still a chance.

Maybe back to back premierships and allow their next generation to come through which they have already. His wife gets home and Neale gets paid huge coin and maybe straight into coaching gig.

Very Sam Mitchell type thing but with the extra advantage that Neale gets his family home. (If she wants to)

 

[Elite Pete]

Not sure if this has been posted in here but Twomey has started talking about the compromised nature of the drafts this year , and going forward citing strength of the northern academies in particular.

Argues for a 2nd first round pick in the middle of the first round for bottom four clubs.

If this had been in effect we would have had

2022: 2, 12
2023: 1,11
2024: 3,13

That would actually help teams rebuild rather than the current system.

Should happen, like a lot of things but won’t happen.

 

[eaglevision]

Will be 33 then, would be a big call to give him huge coin at that age

Yeah ambassadorial role etc etc, but he wants to play for Tasmania and Freo won’t/can’t match the length and salary he’s going to be offered if he maintains his fitness and output.

 

[plays tall 1]

Those players all went to clubs that were pushing into title challenges, we can certainly push for players, but we need to show the future is nearly here, which we can't at the moment.

Lachie Neale, a South Australian, left WA at the peak of his powers to go to Brisbane (when they were a bit of a rabble).

Bont leaving the Bulldogs is highly unlikely, although Cal Twomey suggested on Gettable that the delay in signing on is beginning to invite speculation.

If he was to leave, it’s highly unlikely he’d come here but hope is free. It sure beats wallowing in misery endlessly over the club’s current plight.

Bont certainly seemed to be enjoying himself at Rotto a few months ago. Who knows, maybe his Canadian wife doesn’t like Melbourne, maybe Bont loves great beaches and quokkas ;-)

 

[ziad]

I think you’ll find that if you accept we won’t get Daicos, Cripps, Bont and both Ashcrofts, that shows the exact lack of killer instinct that got us in this mess.

Interesting that Horse knew Buddy was coming to Sydney 12 months before the announcement. Just an example of top management at a club being on song.

 

[Monocle]

I love some of the names that get thrown up here, we are currently as attractive as club for oppo players as Dark Sharks in a wig and lingerie.

I reckon Dev Rob would still knock West Coast back and rather play VFL for the lions.

Blessing in disguise, that would be.

 

[Scotland]

Not sure this has been posted already. At least Cal Twomey thinks we could ask for a priority pick. He also thinks we should be more ruthless and threaten to take players in the pre-season draft if clubs won't come to the table.

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Nothing out of the ordinary here.

Worth noting that the club doesn't need to make a call on Harley Reid, they have already done so.

In the space of about 18 months WC have rejected trade offers for pick 1, drafted Reid and presented a couple of options for a contract extension beyond 2026 to his management. It's pretty clear to anyone with two eyes and a heartbeat we are committed to Harley Reid. We will rebuild around him if he wants to stay.

If he wants to leave then the club will trade him whether it is this year or next. The idea that WC are going to do a Luka Doncic trade is silly, and not even possible in the AFL system.

RE: bringing WA talent home and using the PSD, other than Chad Warner who are the targets? We're probably not getting Sam Taylor or Nic Martin or Tim English at this point and we don't want to be spending assets to get players over 24/25 anyway.

Looking at players recently drafted that are finishing/have finished their initial contracts.

2018: Bobby Hill, do we need another flaky small forward? No.
2019: Georgiades would probably cost a first round pick, no. Robertson, no. Rivers, maybe.
2020: Logan McDonald would cost a first round pick, no. Shannon Neale plays for Geelong, no.
2021: Sheldrick, Van Rooyen - maybe.
2022: Busslinger, hasn't played. Darcy Jones, how much? Ed Allan, has played 4 games.
2023: Curtin, Collard, Hardeman wait and see until 2026.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Nothing out of the ordinary here.

Worth noting that the club doesn't need to make a call on Harley Reid, they have already done so.

In the space of about 18 months WC have rejected trade offers for pick 1, drafted Reid and presented a couple of options for a contract extension beyond 2026 to his management. It's pretty clear to anyone with two eyes and a heartbeat we are committed to Harley Reid. We will rebuild around him if he wants to stay.

If he wants to leave then the club will trade him whether it is this year or next. The idea that WC are going to do a Luka Doncic trade is silly, and not even possible in the AFL system.

RE: bringing WA talent home and using the PSD, other than Chad Warner who are the targets? We're probably not getting Sam Taylor or Nic Martin or Tim English at this point and we don't want to be spending assets to get players over 24/25 anyway.

Looking at players recently drafted that are finishing/have finished their initial contracts.

2018: Bobby Hill, do we need another flaky small forward? No.
2019: Georgiades would probably cost a first round pick, no. Robertson, no. Rivers, maybe.
2020: Logan McDonald would cost a first round pick, no. Shannon Neale plays for Geelong, no.
2021: Sheldrick, Van Rooyen - maybe.
2022: Busslinger, hasn't played. Darcy Jones, how much? Ed Allan, has played 4 games.
2023: Curtin, Collard, Hardeman wait and see until 2026.

Busslinger is the one, out of contract at end of next year. Hasn't got a gig at AFL level yet but apparently promising at VFL level. We need a key defender and he fits the potential bill.

 

[Scotland]

Busslinger is the one. Hasn't got a gig at AFL level yet but apparently promising at VFL level. We need a key defender and he fits the potential bill.

0 games in 3 years is token pick territory.

 

[ziad]

The other side to that coin is: have we done enough to establish ourselves as a prestigious club to make location redundant, because we’ve certainly had the opportunity and wealth to do so.

Bit of a sleepy Perth mindset I am afraid

 

[Happy Mastenator]

0 games in 3 years is token pick territory.

Agreed. Though a 2 second look on a shitty Dogs board seems to have some optimism for him. Lobb and Liam Jones have the key positions locked down at the Dogs, but both getting older so they might be loathe to lose him.

 

[WCE_phil]

Busslinger is playing more as a third tall and rebounding. Defensively he's nowhere near there yet.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Busslinger is playing more as a third tall and rebounding. Defensively he's nowhere near there yet.

That's no good. Third talls we have enough of.

 

[MisterMarcus]

I'm not advocating for any of them, but if we insist on a mature midfielder then Parfitt is a better option than Fyfe or Swallow

Parfitt is no superstar but he is an experienced head and big body that can protect your kids from getting banged up every game.

"Excellent VFL player, okay AFL player" is about his limit....we're not exactly talking prime Judd here. But he'd at least help hold the fort for a couple of years while your young mids mature.

 

[eaglevision]

The big KPD we should be targeting is in town this week, hopefully we get in his ear to plant the seed before he keeps putting together a run of solid games. Perfect age and low cost (at this stage).

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Long post.

Agree with the sentiment about what players realistically we can target and who will come.
WC list management is currently different in 2024 than was previously, that was shown when they cast their net wide and varied to bring in quality players from everywhere.

They just missed because of 2 reasons, where we are as a club and ability to attract non WA players to the club in our current state also.
This is a WA problem and will always be a WA problem, this doesn't stop our NEW list management team from asking the question and I actually think they have been very proactive starting last year.

So that said unless there is a WA connection, there is probably a less than 50% chance of attracting A & B grade players to the club unless there is significant overs paid $$.

That doesn't stop from attracting P Cripps, D Cameron, C Warner types, but in the current list space we are going to have to pay significant overs to get non OOC players to the club.

That also means the Rowells of the world are 0% chance of coming, and the J Wards are 50% of coming if the offer of extra $$ is significant enough.

Still not shut on the idea that Oscar stays, Warner comes and Cameron comes, it maybe a very good trade period or a trade period where we miss Warner for 2 years, Cameron comes in 2026 when OOC, we then shift focus to P Cripps and pay overs for 3 years to captain the club and bring elite standards to develop our next generation.

Then throw a bigger contract at a J Ward who is a B grade mid with upside.
We have the $$ and list spots, cull our list harder to accommodate, use all our other available draft capital to draft elite mids x 2 and perhaps a KDEF option.

I agree. It is much harder to get players to move across the country than some posters on here think. They think real life is like fantasy football where you can just buy and sell players.

Once people are married or in a relationship heading towards marriage it is pretty much the wife's call on moving states and they are usually opposed to it. Women over 25 don't like to live far from where their extended families are and especially once they have kids the want the extended family there for a support network. A lot of my mates from Uni went over east for career reasons in their 20's and want to move back to Perth now but they met and married women on the east coast and none of them will even entertain a conversation about moving states. If the amount of money the husband could earn here was double and it was only for a short finite time like a couple of years and it would mean they could pay off their mortgage they would consider it. But moving for the long term and moving without there being a big disparity in money is out of the question. And i think that that is fairly typical.