List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

[Keys]

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

Spoiler

• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Spoiler

 

[Woutizmoo]

1. Probably 2. almost definitely.


Woutizmoo jr is the kiss of death

Missus reckons there is a 3rd one on there - possibly - Dom Sheed

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

My son just got Petruccelle and Harry Barnett to sign his eagles guernsey at school. Are both of them on the delist pile?

Should have got your son to be like

"Excuse me Mr Petruccelle , when do the AFL footballers get here?"
“We play AFL football “
“But my daddy said you will be delisted next year so we can take Wes Walley as one of our NGA prospects with a 4th round pick”

 

[southcoast]

Like when ?????????????????????????

Time we took our pantyhose off.

Or, we have had the pantyhose off for a while and been fu(ked over for a long time.

 

[twce13]

Missus reckons there is a 3rd one on there - possibly - Dom Sheed

Hey mate any chance you could get owies to sign that thing ?

 

[Dark Sharks]

Flynn reckons Barnett is about to step up and take the #1 ruck mantle.

I think it's time we delisted Flynn.

 

[OldBlueEagle]

Happy to have it but instead of a discount the team pays a premium for the kid.

People seem to miss a massive point on F/S and Academy kids. Due to them being tied to a club, it means the club has an opportunity to have focused development and provide additional support to the kid through their underage years. It is why so many of these kids can come onto their lists and make an immediate impact.

They are not a number in a group of underage kids under the same system as one another. They are receiving more help and development.

Look at the Ashcroft's. Both would have been part of the Lions program, with access to mentors, facilities, select game style that means that the day after draft night they are walking into a club with a lot more familiarity than a kid who was selected the previous night by any old club.

This should be attracting a premium on the draft points, not a discount.

Clubs should have have to include F/S as part of NGA and then clubs can only select limited number in draft or can only select 1 in first two rounds.

 

[ghostbat12]

I think its more we are pushovers and just nice guys.

But sometimes that helps i guess

LOL I guess this is sign of modern times.

the ones that do best in life are those that know how to say "no". in fact, that should be a default approach to anything. Will do far better than "nice guys". they get pick pocketed.

 

[davidgoes4wce]

Grok on Twitter made sense:

 

[Bacchus]

Grok on Twitter made sense:

Could make a case for never giving any draft assistance with these cherry picked subjective criteria.

How did NM deserve it when they sacked alll their experienced players and appointed Rhys Shaw as coach.
You can always find a reason if you want to.

 

[bzparkes]

Grok on Twitter made sense:

Dear davidgoes4Freo

Follow up the question with this - "But the AFL draft is so compromised with father son, academy picks and free agency compensation that it's impossible for a club with inherent disadvantages, such as travel and distance, to possibly rebuild via draft only, when clubs like North Melbourne, Brisbane and Carlton have all received priority draft picks, despite not having a W/L record nearly as bad, as well as being able to attract numerous mature players from other clubs and having top end access tot he draft before and academy picks and such."

I guarantee you Grok will say along the lines of - "Yes, you are totally right. WCE do indeed face inherent disadvantages, etc..."

 

[Bender_]

I'd ask AI if people who use AI are poindexter virgins, but I'm not a poindexter virgin so I'll leave it for someone else.

You know who you are.

 

[MaxHunt]

The Hawks' second will be in the late 30s, early 40s, less than 50 per cent of those picks go on to have any meaningful career. People overrate draft picks and apparently underrate ruckmen in their peak.

The slaying of Cameron on the Pies board after the loss to Brissie wasn't very encouraging.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Grok on Twitter made sense:

Man, I'd be embarrassed to admit I was pathetic enough to outsource my thinking. Blows my mind that people will present conversations with predictive text machines as if they're anything other than a mark of shame.

 

[jdisc]

Flynn reckons Barnett is about to step up and take the #1 ruck mantle.

I think it's time we delisted Flynn.

I'm still holding out for the Barnett come good story purely for the memes, it will be one of the all time come from behind tales

 

[Dark Sharks]

Baker wasn't a "poor trade", stupid A.I.

If we'd have taken Murphy Reid instead of Bo Allen we'd be calling it a masterstroke right now.

So much to play out on that deal before you can call it a success or failure.



Kelly on the other hand was dumb from day one, and now it's still cringe 6 years later exacerbated by a +2 onto the duration.

 

[mattyc75]

Baker want a "poor trade", stupid A.I.

If we'd have taken Murphy Reid instead of Bo Allen we'd be calling it a masterstroke right now.

So much to play out on that deal before you can call it a success or failure.



Kelly on the other hand was dumb from day one, and now it's still cringe 6 years later exacerbated by a +2 onto the duration.

Kelly had come off an amazing 2 seasons. He was going to be the next mainstay of the midfield once shuey retired.
Sure he never lived up to it but the eagles also never drafted another.halfway decent mid and shuey and yeo both got injured into retirement or irrelevance
As we saw with the draft picks that were used by Geelong, taking those pics instead of trading for Kelly definitely doesn't mean we wouldve avoided this mess.

 

[DorothyG]

I'd ask AI if people who use AI are poindexter virgins, but I'm not a poindexter virgin so I'll leave it for someone else.

You know who you are.

As a card caring member of the Poindexter association,

* That's a pretty loaded stereotype—and not a fair or accurate one. *

So yes, yes they are

 

[Dark Sharks]

Kelly had come off an amazing 2 seasons. He was going to be the next mainstay of the midfield once shuey retired.
Sure he never lived up to it but the eagles also never drafted another.halfway decent mid and shuey and yeo both got injured into retirement or irrelevance
As we saw with the draft picks that were used by Geelong, taking those pics instead of trading for Kelly definitely doesn't mean we wouldve avoided this mess.

Yeah that's true, but it's dumb in other ways.

Namely for the fact we totally misread where our list was at and put all our eggs into another flag push when the cliff was unfortunately incoming for some of our senior players.

Had we just hit the draft with those picks, we'd have a much better age profile, potentially even Warner and Rivers in our team right now. Or we wouldn't, hard to tell. That's me just assuming we'd go after the WA talent.

Once again, not Kelly's fault, it's the clubs. His lack of leadership was definitely something they should've scouted properly though. Every man and his dog assumed Kelly would automatically take this "senior midfield leader" role through our rebuild for the last 3 years of that 6 year deal.. and as we've recently found out, he done anything but

 

[Coasters7]

Baker want a "poor trade", stupid A.I.

If we'd have taken Murphy Reid instead of Bo Allen we'd be calling it a masterstroke right now.

So much to play out on that deal before you can call it a success or failure.



Kelly on the other hand was dumb from day one, and now it's still cringe 6 years later exacerbated by a +2 onto the duration.

Also not really the reason we’re 1-17 this year. Jagga Smith over Baker makes us a worse side for 2025, and like you say, a lot to play out regarding the rest of the players we got from that trade.

 

[squashface]

Oh we’re doing AI slop today.

Bin.

 

[THE A5]

Oh we’re doing AI slop today.

Bin.

Need to ban that shit off this board

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Eh I asked Chat GPT months ago and it said we deserved one.

Grok is an incel soggy-sayo, it trawls the rancid opinions from twitter to form it's responses.

 

[Keys]

Yeah that's true, but it's dumb in other ways.

Namely for the fact we totally misread where our list was at and put all our eggs into another flag push when the cliff was unfortunately incoming for some of our senior players.

Had we just hit the draft with those picks, we'd have a much better age profile, potentially even Warner and Rivers in our team right now. Or we wouldn't, hard to tell. That's me just assuming we'd go after the WA talent.

Once again, not Kelly's fault, it's the clubs. His lack of leadership was definitely something they should've scouted properly though. Every man and his dog assumed Kelly would automatically take this "senior midfield leader" role through our rebuild for the last 3 years of that 6 year deal.. and as we've recently found out, he done anything but

At the end of 2019 -

Premiership/core players:
Kennedy - 32 : 22 games
Hurn - 32 : 21 games
Jetta - 30 : 22 games
Schofield - 30 : 14 games
Naitanui - 29 : 5 games
Shuey - 29 : 24 games
Redden - 29 : 23 games
Sheppard - 28 : 24 games
Hutchings - 28 : 18 games
Vardy - 28 : 11 games
McGovern - 27 : 23 games
Gaff - 27 : 22 games
Darling - 27 : 24 games
Cripps - 27 : 19 games
Yeo - 26 : 23 games
Barrass - 24 : 14 games
Sheed - 24 : 24 games
Rioli - 24 : 14 games
Duggan - 23 : 15 games
Ryan - 23 : 24 games
Cole - 22 : 14 games
Venables - 21 : 6 games

Developing/depth players:
Ah Chee - 26 : 1 game
Nelson - 23 : 13 games
Waterman - 21 : 13 games
Rotham - 21 : 4 games
Ainsworth - 21 : 0 games
Allen - 20 : 21 games
Petruccelle - 20 : 20 games
Brander - 20 : 2 games
Foley - 20 : 0 games
Edwards - 19 : 0 games
Williams - 19 : 0 games
O’Neill - 19 : 0 games
Cameron - 19 : 7 games

Kelly was 25 and played all 25 games for Geelong in 2019, finished top 5 in the Brownlow, top 2 in Geelong’s B&F and was named on the wing in the AA side

Hurn, McGovern, Darling and Yeo all made the 2019 AA team whilst Shuey, Gaff and Sheppard were all in the 40 man squad

To say we misread where our list was at in 2019 is Captain Hindsight areas at its finest. There was no reason not to believe we were right in the mix for another flag and that Kelly would add significantly to our midfield group

Aside from Kennedy and Hurn, our core players were all under 30 and the majority had played all or most games in 2019 with no indication of the injury carnage to come

In it’s first year the standalone WAFL side made finals, winning one and losing the other by less than a kick suggesting we had some decent talent coming through at the time - even if many of those players failed to come on as anticipated

There’s no way the club could have anticipated what was to come and how impacted the careers of so many key players would be derailed by injury. The belief would have been that list could contend for another 3 years before the core group of players reached 30 and beyond

The cliff came far sooner and more abruptly than anyone could have reasonably foreseen

 

[Boohemian]

The decision to trade Kelly in made sense at the time as a push for one last hurrah. Get that.

The broader problem though was that there was no replenishment of the list happening either. No green shoots coming through. No young midfielders on the list showing any promise that could play alongside the older brigade while they develop.

It was all or nothing. Ended up with nothing, and now we're rebuilding from scratch with kids having to shoulder too much of the load and a supposedly senior midfielder in Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

looking disinterested.

Got to feel for the guy though. If we stuck to the script and drafted Allen first and left Brander on the table, we could have drafted him initially anyway. Would have won a premiership. If he stayed at Geelong he would have won one there too. Instead he's spent most of his time at West Coast in sides getting belted.

 

[Woutizmoo]

So update, turns out my 7 year old and wife were fairly off the mark with who visited the school, this from my school below.
I think Luke Webster

Luke Webster

Age

43

Ht

186cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.8

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

(assistant coach) might be a parent at the school and we seem to have uncanny access to 'eagles' players, multiple throughout the year.