List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[dinnaz]

When have we ever made a club pay full price. I hope we do but we don't have form here

Back in the 90s

 

[Patron]

Any chance we can profit on the fiorini deal? Essendon wanting to use future picks, Gold Coast wanting picks in this years draft.

I wouldn’t mind setting ourselves up with 3 second rounders next year and with the gc upgrades seeming out of reach maybe it’s time to give up on using our later picks for that purpose instead.


Wce out: 34
Wce in: essendon F2 2026, pick 52

Gold Coast out: fiorini, pick 52
Gold Coast in: pick 34

Essendon out: F2 2026
Essendon in: Fiorini

Pick 52 not worth anything to gc as they need point density whereas it has a points value for us that could contribute to bids that may come for our guys.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Oh ew.



Also just saw this with Dylan Alexander and some hot campaigner. On a side not I’d absolutely loath if we lose traditional ruckmen due to last touch.

Had more cred when he worked at Melville Bunnings.

 

[squashface]

Our recent results have placed us in an incredibly difficult position to attract players. As it stands, we need to pay overs to get them here. Hopefully, when we start winning again, we will be on a better footing to trade competitively.

I saw this today re: North, and would imagine Clarke is getting similar feedback from managers.

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In terms of salary that is absolutely the case. But I'm talking about negotiating a trade with opposition list managers and by the time Clarke is doing that, the players have already agreed to come to us.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

CDT reminds me of scott gumbleton who coincidentally was drafted at pick 2 in the 2006 draft. Huge promise, but just never quite got there with injuries hampering him for most of his career.

It’s a sign…trade pick 2!View attachment 2455290

Cooper Duff Tyler is a more athletic Darcy Cameron with less sticky hands and worse ruck craft.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

I'm surprised the Sam cumming hype has died down, he has amazing AFL attributes. Would love if eagles split 2 and selected him.

 

[Peptide Pig]

While I agree with your thoughts on positions for what we have I am not of the opinion that Aleer is any better than what we have, he may be better than Bazzo but Bazzo is on the edge of our team and probably won't make it as anymore than backup.

You very rarely need more than 2 KPD's in any side and the other positions are made up of lock down defenders, rebound defenders etc.
We have no KPD's besides Edwards and Brock, that's why T Young is coming to sure up the position and probably replace Bazzo.
Brock has actually performed well this year and still has improvement in his game as a CHB with his intercepting and has athleticism, not sure Aleer is any better than Brock otherwise he would be getting games in front of Idun imo.

Better to draft a KPD and develop than trade for an asset that's no better than we have imo.

Idun is the same height as Hough and plays a similar role to him and Starc on the medium/small forwards. Aleer plays taller and generally came in to the side when Taylor or Buckley were out. He’s a first round draft pick and GWS still want to keep him despite their stacked defense.

A fair few teams were after Aleer before he chose the Saints. I’m not sure Brock would interest any other sides. He’s already been delisted once and just snuck in as a train on at the worst side in the league. I hope he comes on but it’s a big reach to say he’s got more upside than Aleer. We will 100% play Young ahead of Brock and he’s not exactly a world beater either.

I agree that 2x 195cm+ KPDs isn’t necessarily a good structure and can be exposed against some smaller, faster forward lines. Which is exactly why I would’ve preferred Aleer as he is more of a hybrid in-between and has some versatile weapons like Ginbey in his athleticism but can also play tall if required due to his leap.

If Aleer came for the F2 we got for Ryan I would probably still do it and have Young, Brock and Bazzo as our back up KPDs. It’s rare we have a fully healthy list so nothing wrong with extra depth.

Of course we can draft a KPD but it’s all speculative and often even more so with talls so much more of a gamble. Especially given this is a weak draft. Plus looking at a few years to develop versus a plug and play 24 year old.

But I doubt we would go after it now. Hopefully Young forms a solid KPD partnership with Edwards and frees up Ginbey to intercept and be more attacking or cover the medium forwards if Hough/Starc play up the ground.

 

[ThePuma #9]

I’d like to see Clayton paired with Toby, the two most punchable heads in the AFL on the same team, you beauty!

Don’t forget “THE PACKAGE”

 

[Keys]

Is it possible that Essendon’s interest in pick 2 is to get ahead of Richmond for Robey and not CDT?

If we split 2 for 5 and 6, the likelihood would be CDT and Robey are taken but leaving at least 2 of Sharp, Cumming or Xavier Taylor - maybe all 3 if Richmond choose Grlj

Getting 2 players in that group would be better than one plus whichever player gets through to our pick at 13

If Essendon offer it we’d be mad not to take 5 and 6 for 2 and 13

 

[Peptide Pig]

CDT reminds me of scott gumbleton who coincidentally was drafted at pick 2 in the 2006 draft. Huge promise, but just never quite got there with injuries hampering him for most of his career.

It’s a sign…trade pick 2!View attachment 2455290

A couple of years later there was another high-ceiling athletic ruckman taken at pick 2 by WC also. Glad we didn’t trade that pick…

 

[Godfather32]

A couple of years later there was another high-ceiling athletic ruckman taken at pick 2 by WC also. Glad we didn’t trade that pick…

That athletic ruckman could jump though which is what made him such a good ruckman, this one we're talking about runs lots quickly.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

If Aleer came for the F2 we got for Ryan I would probably still do it and have Young, Brock and Bazzo as our back up KPDs. It’s rare we have a fully healthy list so nothing wrong with extra depth.

Young is better than Aleer though.

We don't need 3 depth KPDs anyway, especially with the development of Ginbey's role.

 

[THE A5]

Had more cred when he worked at Melville Bunnings.

Never realised Dyl Alexander worked at my local bunnings

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Is it possible that Essendon’s interest in pick 2 is to get ahead of Richmond for Robey and not CDT?

If we split 2 for 5 and 6, the likelihood would be CDT and Robey are taken but leaving at least 2 of Sharp, Cumming or Oskar Taylor - maybe all 3 of Richmond choose Grlj

Getting 2 players in that group would be better than one plus whichever player gets through to our pick at 13

If Essendon offer it we’d be mad not to take 5 and 6 for 2 and 13

I heard Tigers were more into X Taylor not Oscar.

I don’t mind 5+6 for 2+13 even if it’s Robey not CDT. I suspect Tigers would be happy with Grlj and X Taylor at 3 & 4.

I’d then be looking to sell 5 as the CDT pick to Dees at 6 having WC taken Cumming at 5. Dees will not be taking Sharp as they have Langford. We could do 6+F2+33+41 for 7+8.

7 take Dovaston or Schubert and 8 take Sharp.

Walk way with
Duursma
Cumming
Dovaston or Schubert
Sharp

Williams
Banfield


Alternately we take a Dees F2 to slide back from 6 to 7.


Start the car

 

[Rowan18]

Our recent results have placed us in an incredibly difficult position to attract players. As it stands, we need to pay overs to get them here. Hopefully, when we start winning again, we will be on a better footing to trade competitively.

I saw this today re: North, and would imagine Clarke is getting similar feedback from managers.

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We're not that dire, but we're not that far off. Makes the Baker/Starc trades even more important. Guys are much more open to moving when they have a mate that rocked up last year and had a good time.

Harley probably helps a lot too.

 

[Keys]

I heard Tigers were more inter X Taylor not Oscar.

I don’t mind 5+6 for 2+13 even if it’s Robey not CDT. I suspect Tigers would be happy with Grlj and X Taylor at 3 & 4.

I’d then be looking to sell 5 as the CDT pick to Dees at 6 having WC taken Cumming at 5. Dees will not be taking Sharp as they have Langford. We could do 6+13+33 for 7+8.

7 take Dovaston or Schubert and 8 take Sharp.

Walk way with
Duursma
Cumming
Dovaston or Schubert
Sharp

Williams
Banfield

Start the car

I got my Taylors mixed up - meant Xavier

I think you’ve traded 13 twice in the above

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I got my Taylors mixed up - meant Xavier

I think you’ve traded 13 twice in the above

Then we use a F2 plus 41 - more I think you get the gist

 

[ThePuma #9]

I heard Tigers were more inter X Taylor not Oscar.

I don’t mind 5+6 for 2+13 even if it’s Robey not CDT. I suspect Tigers would be happy with Grlj and X Taylor at 3 & 4.

I’d then be looking to sell 5 as the CDT pick to Dees at 6 having WC taken Cumming at 5. Dees will not be taking Sharp as they have Langford. We could do 6+13+33 for 7+8.

7 take Dovaston or Schubert and 8 take Sharp.

Walk way with
Duursma
Cumming
Dovaston or Schubert
Sharp

Williams
Banfield

Start the car

Wait.

We’re trading 2 + 13 for 5 & 6 and then trading 6 + 13 + 33 for 7 & 8.

Thats an impressive pick 13

 

[eaglevision]

In the absence of other pick trades we could use pick 13 to help Carlton game the system to our advantage. Carlton trade 10 to us for 34 and our F2. On draft night a Dean bid comes in the top dozen picks and Carlton’s 2R/3R picks are used to match. We then trade 13 to Carlton for their F2 and 2027 FF2. Blues get Dean and a 1R pick to use.

WCE OUT: 13, 34, F2 (WCE)
WCE IN: 10, F2 (CARL), FF2 (CARL)

 

[bombard]

Nobody ****s with the Jesus.

 

[jesterwester]

I’d prefer we didn’t make the trade for either 1 or 2 now- I think we will get some decent offers for pick 2 once we announce Duursma at 1, which seems as good as done, now.

If we trade it now it will have to include 13 as it will unlikely signed off by the AFL I feel - but on the night it can swing the balance in our favour somewhat - ala North trading their future pick to Richmond for pick 27.

 

[FatPizza]

Wait.

We’re trading 2 + 13 for 5 & 6 and then trading 6 + 13 + 33 for 7 & 8.

Thats an impressive pick 13

I was impressed more by Pick 19.

 

[Snowball81]

I heard Tigers were more inter X Taylor not Oscar.

I don’t mind 5+6 for 2+13 even if it’s Robey not CDT. I suspect Tigers would be happy with Grlj and X Taylor at 3 & 4.

I’d then be looking to sell 5 as the CDT pick to Dees at 6 having WC taken Cumming at 5. Dees will not be taking Sharp as they have Langford. We could do 6+13+33 for 7+8.

7 take Dovaston or Schubert and 8 take Sharp.

Walk way with
Duursma
Cumming
Dovaston or Schubert
Sharp

Williams
Banfield

Start the car

Q. How many inside mids do we need on list?
Banfield, Robertson, sharp (if drafted) and hall.

They can’t all play in the same team and I would suggest only one of them can unless they are able to play wing/hff as well.

I do like sharp, but I wonder whether our list management team actually have him as a lower priority selection when compared to guys like cumming, dovaston, Lindsay, Schubert.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Q. How many inside mids do we need on list?
Banfield, Robertson, sharp (if drafted) and hall.

They can’t all play in the same team and I would suggest only one of them can unless they are able to play wing/hff as well.

I do like sharp, but I wonder whether our list management team actually have him as a lower priority selection when compared to guys like cumming, dovaston, Lindsay, Schubert.

Banfield is a balanced mid who can also play forward and score.

Hall is likely depth as is Robertson. I see both as strong WAFL players that can fill in.

In an ideal world, we have Hewett as a high half forward.

I still see Sharp as a need.

We need a midfield that can compete at the highest level, not just make up the numbers.

 

[MeltMan]

Christ - Crucifixion - 3 days

Hey, turning an injury that was deceased to fully recovered is a turn around that our s&c would take as a nice little feather.
So far they have only managed it in the other direction.
Might be a nice change of injury transparency.