Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.

[HighBudget]

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander! Let us into the showdown, give us something this year damn! Someone really close to me passed away during the quarantine and all I could have at the funeral was 5 people, I had to tell the closest people in my family that they couldn’t come. Let us into the showdown

 

[chiwigi]

If you had to isolate for 14 days if you get in close contact with people in public or at work I would literally only be working once a fortnight.

That's if you carry the same mindset about the protests.

Those arguing against the protests are the same people who were telling us Covd was a beat up. Almost as if...

As a state we are at zero, if you can’t go out now, you’ll never be able to go out.

 

[HighBudget]

Those arguing against the protests are the same people who were telling us Covd was a beat up. Almost as if...

As a state we are at zero, if you can’t go out now, you’ll never be able to go out.

Those arguing for the protest are the same people who were telling us to stay inside to protect others and stop being selfish. Works both ways except people for the protest really think that COVID is going to kill everyone, so them mass gathering is not only highly hypocritical but also very disgusting as they see a protest more important than people’s lives. those who are using the Corona to go against the protests are just taking the piss in most cases

 

[jdeezy]

I really don't see how it's that complicated. Yes, there are numerous people who, a month or two ago were telling everyone to stay inside that yesterday attended a rally full of people. But this isn't a "gotcha". It doesn't make them hypocritical. It means that, two months ago, it was

Stay home and reduce the spread of a virus that has the potential to spread and create a pandemic in our state vs. go out because that's what you've always done and I don't know maybe you need to stockpile some more toilet paper and beans.

Now, the argument is

Stay home and reduce the spread of a virus that has potential to spread, albeit, the evidence would suggest that currently here in Adelaide there is a much smaller chance of that happening now vs. go out because you feel that there is a civil rights movement that can be aided by you attending a rally.

Now, you can argue all you like about whether the rally is needed, whether change will even remotely come of it, all that jazz, but saying the two situations are people just flip flopping for no reason is pretty disingenuous.

And while I do think we should be easing restrictions even more, and I'm not against the idea of allowing some normality by having some degree of crowds at the football, the idea of "well a rally for human rights can have a bunch of people why can't a bunch of people watch some people kick a football around" is also not exactly like for like.

With all that said, I think if we get through the 2 week or so period after this rally with no cases then we can make assumptions that it might just be gone enough that we can start to really open things up. I really do hope there's no cases after Saturday's events.

 

[HighBudget]

I really don't see how it's that complicated. Yes, there are numerous people who, a month or two ago were telling everyone to stay inside that yesterday attended a rally full of people. But this isn't a "gotcha". It doesn't make them hypocritical. It means that, two months ago, it was

Stay home and reduce the spread of a virus that has the potential to spread and create a pandemic in our state vs. go out because that's what you've always done and I don't know maybe you need to stockpile some more toilet paper and beans.

Now, the argument is

Stay home and reduce the spread of a virus that has potential to spread, albeit, the evidence would suggest that currently here in Adelaide there is a much smaller chance of that happening now vs. go out because you feel that there is a civil rights movement that can be aided by you attending a rally.

Now, you can argue all you like about whether the rally is needed, whether change will even remotely come of it, all that jazz, but saying the two situations are people just flip flopping for no reason is pretty disingenuous.

And while I do think we should be easing restrictions even more, and I'm not against the idea of allowing some normality by having some degree of crowds at the football, the idea of "well a rally for human rights can have a bunch of people why can't a bunch of people watch some people kick a football around" is also not exactly like for like.

With all that said, I think if we get through the 2 week or so period after this rally with no cases then we can make assumptions that it might just be gone enough that we can start to really open things up. I really do hope there's no cases after Saturday's events.

You’re moving the goal posts to suit your argument, fact is if yesterday’s Protests was to lift all quarantine restrictions then everyone for the current protests would be calling them “selfish” and telling them to stay home or whatever. Also Victoria, NSW etc are still in a bad state due to Corona and they still held their protests

 

[manureid]

All I know is the rigmarole I have to go through for kids to train an indoor sport whilst thousands are gathered, kids are not social distancing at school, trains are full is a little galling and frustrating.

 

[OneGreatClub]

fu** me I do get it. The point is the rest of decided not to be childish and do whatever we wanted because we were doing it for the greater good and the minority who tried something were disbanded and fined nation wide. If we only knew all we had to demand was that they open up Adelaide Oval for fans because they are going anyway or my weddings on for 250 guests and declined or not they are coming anyway etc.

so two wrongs make a right?

 

[Visenfest]

If you can have your local Westfields open, you can allow protests. The very same people complaining about the 'unacceptable' risk of attending a protest would have no qualms about cramming shoulder to shoulder in Kmart, trying to get their hands on the latest bargains. You either ban both, or allow both. At the moment, neither could be considered an unacceptable risk, so allow both.

 

[Windy Cindy]

It should only be Port fans as crows fans are more susceptible to the more dire affects of covid due to their age.

Have a ballot based on members longevity

No tickets for the crows. Celebrate our 150 years
I’d hate to miss out for a crows w***er to go

 

[StrappingTape]

so two wrongs make a right?

one wrong undoes all the right. One wrong means no one bothers now because all the goodwill gone, hence we have the government in damage control now saying they are thinking about letting people into the football, what choice to they have? They have to allow football fans now. I note again the silence from the people who thought protesters who wanted to be able to trade again were killing people. It's the same group of people who were telling everyone what they can't do and sending out police to rules breakers suddenly are OK with it now it's a trendy cause they want to be seen supporting. It's a virus, if it's as bad as you say then it outweighs a protest so clearly it's not (governments own actions say so) so therefore no ones gonna do what the government asks anymore.

I'll put it this way, if it was a protest for say Cardinal Pell and they were gonna rock up anyway, do you really believe the same people saying well it's OK as they were just gonna break the rules anyway would be so calm? Or would we have a police crackdown on it and the media banging on about how they are going to kill people with their actions? We all know the answer.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Anyone going to watch 60mins. Pete Evans with covid19 conspiracy theories?

 

[OneGreatClub]

If you can have your local Westfields open, you can allow protests. The very same people complaining about the 'unacceptable' risk of attending a protest would have no qualms about cramming shoulder to shoulder in Kmart, trying to get their hands on the latest bargains. You either ban both, or allow both. At the moment, neither could be considered an unacceptable risk, so allow both.

I think where there is a protest of 5 or 10k people shoulder to shoulder for hours it would be a nightmare and almost impossible to contact trace

 

[StrappingTape]

Anyone going to watch 60mins. Pete Evans with covid19 conspiracy theories?

I can only imagine his remedy. Goats cheese with a bone broth taken rectally and you'll be protected.

 

[Visenfest]

I think where there is a protest of 5 or 10k people shoulder to shoulder for hours it would be a nightmare and almost impossible to contact trace

Not when we have 0 active cases in SA. Eventually we have to start to allow these types of activities again.

 

[Grave Danger]

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I think where there is a protest of 5 or 10k people shoulder to shoulder for hours it would be a nightmare and almost impossible to contact trace

Will the COVIDSafe app be able to cope??

 

[GoTheMightyCrows]

Anyone going to watch 60mins. Pete Evans with covid19 conspiracy theories?

pfft, I put on the meaning of life, currently at transplants!

 

[Leaveit2charlie]

I can only imagine his remedy. Goats cheese with a bone broth taken rectally and you'll be protected.

Or something ridiculous.

 

[Capital Power]

Anyone going to watch 60mins. Pete Evans with covid19 conspiracy theories?

Is he seriously getting more prime time coverage?

 

[StrappingTape]

Or something ridiculous.

sad but true.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Not when we have 0 active cases in SA. Eventually we have to start to allow these types of activities again.

IF we have 0 active cases

 

[Schulzenfest]

Could the media please stop giving that campaigner Pete Evans a platform?

 

[Visenfest]

IF we have 0 active cases

You could make that argument at any time. It's a poor, pant-pissing argument though. If you don't trust the data now, you won't later either.

 

[DaTBird187]

Anyone going to watch 60mins. Pete Evans with covid19 conspiracy theories?

Unfortunately I'm having my testicles removed with a vegetable peeler when it's on, so won't be able to.

 

[OneGreatClub]

You could make that argument at any time. It's a poor, pant-pissing argument though. If you don't trust the data now, you won't later either.

I would trust the data if the whole sa population had just been tested. It likely has gone but saying it definitely has gone is not proven.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I would trust the data if the whole sa population had just been tested. It likely has gone but saying it definitely has gone is not proven.

It's never going to be proven to be 100% gone. It probably never will be 100% gone. If that's what you're waiting for then we'll be in lockdown forever.