Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

[raptalia]

The UK is still getting 50k new cases a day and around 100-200 deaths per day.

• Between 2 January and 24 September 2021, the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) was 32 times greater in unvaccinated people than in fully vaccinated individuals.

Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics

Weekly age-standardised mortality rates and age-specific rates for deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status; deaths occurring between 2 January and 24 September 2021 in England.

www.ons.gov.uk

Yes, when you multiply those figures by 365 the annual death rate is still pretty significant. I have a feeling that Christmas is not going to be a good time in Europe. Cold weather and all those indoor Christmas parties is sure to see a spike in infection. With all those cases in places like the UK and Germany you have to wonder how many people have been infected for a second or third time?

 

[Del165198]

Yes, when you multiply those figures by 365 the annual death rate is still pretty significant. I have a feeling that Christmas is not going to be a good time in Europe. Cold weather and all those indoor Christmas parties is sure to see a spike in infection. With all those cases in places like the UK and Germany you have to wonder how many people have been infected for a second or third time?

Still a lot of unvaccinated dropping off the perch. Yes the vaccines are far from perfect but if you lived in Europe and weren't vaccinated then you've got to be a special kind of stupid.

 

[raptalia]

The latest on the Tredrea stand off. I am hoping to hear that Tredders has had his first shot but doesn't look like it will happen. Tredders is on leave atm.

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[Papa G]

On one hand Tredrea is taking a stance, so if he's standing by his principles and convictions, well atleast you can consider that admirable.

On the other hand it will be interesting to see how principled he and his kooky wife are when his 6 figure salary stops rolling in. Not sure how pleased his ex wife will be either when his child support drops off.

 

[backtozero]

Bullshit...

It's not just obesity...even if you're obese and vaccinated you could be in trouble anyway

Anyone who's immune suppressed is at risk. There's a shitload of those people. It doesn't mean they'll all die but many may require support.

78% of covid hospitalised people in the US were overweight or obese.

But the vaccine might not protect you anyway. And it won't stop infection, or transmission.

But yeah, bloody Warren Tredrea.

 

[Del165198]

78% of covid hospitalised people in the US were overweight or obese.

But the vaccine might not protect you anyway. And it won't stop infection, or transmission.

But yeah, bloody Warren Tredrea.

So it's more practical for 150 million people to lose 100 pounds than just getting a ****ing injection?

As above post from the UK, you're 32x more likely to die if infected with covid if you're unvaxed.

But nah, change the world and suddenly everyone is magically not fat. The jab is still better protection than being skinny, btw.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Western Australia has banned entry to travellers from South Australia overnight, with authorities expecting a COVID-19 cluster in Adelaide’s eastern suburbs to grow.

South Australia recorded 18 new COVID-19 cases on Thursday, with 16 cases linked to a high school reunion in Norwood and two connected to interstate travellers.

Thursday’s cases included eight men aged between their 30s and 60s and 10 women in their fifties.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Senator Alex Antic escorted from Adelaide Airport to a medi-hotel and 14 days quarantine after he was granted an exemption reserved for unvaccinated travellers. Last week PM confidently said “Alex is double-dose vaccinated”

 

[backtozero]

So it's more practical for 150 million people to lose 100 pounds than just getting a ******* injection?

As above post from the UK, you're 32x more likely to die if infected with covid if you're unvaxed.

But nah, change the world and suddenly everyone is magically not fat. The jab is still better protection than being skinny, btw.

Do you read posts or just write whatever pops into your head?

My first post said that if you're under 50 and not fat, you'll probably still be fine. Which is true. Maybe not to people like you so utterly consumed by clickbait news that think the survival rate for young, healthy people isn't 99.9%, but it is.

Australia has had 2 years to prepare to open the floodgates, so yes a focus on improving health would have been mighty handy in that time.

 

[Del165198]

Do you read posts or just write whatever pops into your head?

My first post said that if you're under 50 and not fat, you'll probably still be fine. Which is true. Maybe not to people like you so utterly consumed by clickbait news that think the survival rate for young, healthy people isn't 99.9%, but it is.

Australia has had 2 years to prepare to open the floodgates, so yes a focus on improving health would have been mighty handy in that time.

The same crap over and over again.
Part of living in a civilised society means we protect the vulnerable. Yes a 20 year old will probably be ok. That's not the point.

How the **** do you propose an entire society of people gets healthier? If we could make it happen we'd already be doing it.

Yes, we all know being obese isn't healthy. Neither is being unvaccinated. Tredrea is an idiot.

 

[davesnothere]

Vaccines still holding up. Being inflected by previous strains not holding up it seems?

Covid: South Africa new cases surge as Omicron spreads

The new Omicron variant has now become dominant, the country's top medical scientists say.

www.bbc.com

"Those who have already had other variants of coronavirus do not appear to be protected against Omicron but vaccines are still believed to protect against severe disease, according to top scientists from the global health body and South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD)."

 

[dav3]

Germany tells anti-vaxxers to GAGF

Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan to make shots compulsory | CNN

Germany on Thursday announced a nationwide lockdown for the unvaccinated, as its leaders backed plans for mandatory vaccinations in the coming months.

edition.cnn.com

 

[backtozero]

The same crap over and over again.
Part of living in a civilised society means we protect the vulnerable. Yes a 20 year old will probably be ok. That's not the point.

How the fu** do you propose an entire society of people gets healthier? If we could make it happen we'd already be doing it.

Yes, we all know being obese isn't healthy. Neither is being unvaccinated. Tredrea is an idiot.

The 16 people at that party with Jay Weatherill were all vaccinated and all caught covid. They can now also all spread covid.

Studies now show that an unvaccinated infected person and a vaccinated infected person have the same level of infectiousness. Breakthrough infections are NOT rare like they said.

Ffs work it out. The vaccine does **** all to protect anyone if they're vulnerable and can't be vaccinated. Vulnerable, vaccinated people are still dying from covid.

But it's all Warren Tredrea's fault.

 

[Lagi]

Thought I’d read the paper but he hasn’t identified it; also my interpretation on listening is that he’s only read the Abstract. If so, that’s not a good look.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Yes, when you multiply those figures by 365 the annual death rate is still pretty significant. I have a feeling that Christmas is not going to be a good time in Europe. Cold weather and all those indoor Christmas parties is sure to see a spike in infection. With all those cases in places like the UK and Germany you have to wonder how many people have been infected for a second or third time?

And the fact that a lot of the ‘recovered’ actually die weeks or months later from covid related issues and are not counted in the numbers.

 

[OneGreatClub]

The 16 people at that party with Jay Weatherill were all vaccinated and all caught covid. They can now also all spread covid.

Studies now show that an unvaccinated infected person and a vaccinated infected person have the same level of infectiousness. Breakthrough infections are NOT rare like they said.

Ffs work it out. The vaccine does **** all to protect anyone if they're vulnerable and can't be vaccinated. Vulnerable, vaccinated people are still dying from covid.

But it's all Warren Tredrea's fault.

I’ll bet those at the party hadn’t had their boosters.
‘Studies now show’ is a rather vague statement.
Anyone can cherrypick.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Thought I’d read the paper but he hasn’t identified it; also my interpretation on listening is that he’s only read the Abstract. If so, that’s not a good look.

Yes, when you actually listen to him he is purposefully vague and anecdotal and throws in a few headline grabbing statements which spread like wildfire throughout the antivax movement as more proof of conspiracy.
Around the exact same time Janus posts such stuff my anti vax mate on facebook posts the same.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Senator Alex Antic escorted from Adelaide Airport to a medi-hotel and 14 days quarantine after he was granted an exemption reserved for unvaccinated travellers. Last week PM confidently said “Alex is double-dose vaccinated”

But Scotty doesn’t lie..remember?

 

[StrappingTape]

Lol. The High Court has been too scared to uphold the freaking constitution throughout this covid stuff. What chance do you think Tredders is of winning a pissy little unfair dismissal claim in this environment?

He will do it on principal and it still will cost nine a bucket to defend hence crisis talks.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Yes, when you actually listen to him he is purposefully vague and anecdotal and throws in a few headline grabbing statements which spread like wildfire throughout the antivax movement as more proof of conspiracy.
Around the exact same time Janus posts such stuff my anti vax mate on facebook posts the same.

So.... Janus is your mate on facebook then?

 

[PatientMental]

Goal posts shifting.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

The national expert vaccine group has recommended there be no widespread change to Australia's vaccine booster program in response to the emergence of the Omicron variant. However, the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) is recommending severely immunocompromised people get a booster shot two months after their second dose.

 

[Del165198]

The 16 people at that party with Jay Weatherill were all vaccinated and all caught covid. They can now also all spread covid.

Studies now show that an unvaccinated infected person and a vaccinated infected person have the same level of infectiousness. Breakthrough infections are NOT rare like they said.

Ffs work it out. The vaccine does **** all to protect anyone if they're vulnerable and can't be vaccinated. Vulnerable, vaccinated people are still dying from covid.

But it's all Warren Tredrea's fault.

Nothing about the link I posted from the UK showing unvaxed 32x more likely to die.

 

[TeeKray]

On one hand Tredrea is taking a stance, so if he's standing by his principles and convictions, well atleast you can consider that admirable.

On the other hand it will be interesting to see how principled he and his kooky wife are when his 6 figure salary stops rolling in. Not sure how pleased his ex wife will be either when his child support drops off.

Tredders strikes me as a pretty shrewd operator. I'm sure he has invested his money well over the journey, notwithstanding he would've copped a hit with the divorce. He's very likely to be able to get by comfortably without working.

 

[TeeKray]

I’ll bet those at the party hadn’t had their boosters.
‘Studies now show’ is a rather vague statement.
Anyone can cherrypick.

Welcome to the intersection of science and politics where you choose the science that agrees with your politics.

A bit like the border stuff. Mark McGowan yesterday claimed that SA opened too soon at 80% vaxxed ... the number that the Doherty Institute came up with and national cabinet then agreed upon. But Mark has his own scientists that he has cherry picked for his own political purposes and they say 80% is too soon and that 90% is the real number.