Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 4

[Pilchard_Adams]

I am wondering if there is a Black market for false PCR test certificates now. These people need to have a negative test to come from India to Australia. I dont see how so many coming home are infected with it being a direct flight unless the airport and airplane are heavily contaminated

 

[MrKK]

I am wondering if there is a Black market for false PCR test certificates now. These people need to have a negative test to come from India to Australia. I dont see how so many coming home are infected with it being a direct flight unless the airport and airplane are heavily contaminated

Would expect so. Criminals are always a step ahead of government bureaucracies.

 

[Rob R]

We dont know how many untested people in India are infected, its just all speculation really. But there would be infected untested people in every country.

But what we do know is the infection rates are pretty similar in India as Canada and Germany, around 0.024% of the population per day. France was twice as bad as India. America was nearly the same rate as India at 0.021%. I didnt check many countries, but we havent stopped people flying from these places.

These figures were from about 4 days ago. India is in strife and looks worse on TV as the media will show the worst of the worst and their medical system just cant handle this with 20% of the worlds population in India.

First and foremost I hope we are sending help to our Indian friends as the US has.

With the ban on arrivals from India, it is not ideal and the stats you cite do question the consistency of the approach but I think whilst the infection in the nation is similar to other countries, the rate of infection in returning people seems to be much worse. Personally, I would probably have just banned dual citizens and permanent residents (who should be banned from every country anyway).

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[Hawk Dork]

We chartered a plane and got Australians out of Wuhan and put them on Xmas island at the start of this

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

We chartered a plane and got Australians out of Wuhan and put them on Xmas island at the start of this

Christmas Island only caters for 1000. Was it only one planeload from Wuhan? Didn't they have to fly to Darwin then by a smaller plane to CI? But 1000 is better than none, although that's four or five flights out of India at least.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Christmas Island only caters for 1000. Was it only one planeload from Wuhan? Didn't they have to fly to Darwin then by a smaller plane to CI? But 1000 is better than none, although that's four or five flights out of India at least.

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Tears, nervousness as Australians endure long wait to take off from Wuhan

Two hundred Australian citizens and 43 permanent residents leave the coronavirus epicentre of Wuhan on a chartered Qantas evacuation flight that is taking them to Christmas Island via Western Australia.

www.abc.net.au

every 2 weeks it will add up

jab them before departure and again before release into society

 

[Rob R]

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Tears, nervousness as Australians endure long wait to take off from Wuhan

Two hundred Australian citizens and 43 permanent residents leave the coronavirus epicentre of Wuhan on a chartered Qantas evacuation flight that is taking them to Christmas Island via Western Australia.

www.abc.net.au

every 2 weeks it will add up

jab them before departure and again before release into society

And India is probably close enough to allow for the smaller jets to fly direct to XMAS Island. Might need to accelerate the deportations of the people already there though unless the returnees can be isolated from them.

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[Hawk Dork]

DFAT also revealed 46 Australians abroad have died from COVID-19 in the past year,

Empty embassies: Overseas diplomatic posts run virtually after 370 COVID-19 infections

DFAT also revealed 46 Australians abroad have died from COVID-19 in the past year, but did not say whether any of them were registered as stranded and wanting to return to Australia.

www.theage.com.au

 

[craigos]

Not only are we proper campaigners to refugees but now if you're unlucky enough to be overseas at the wrong time you'll get similar treatment.

Surprised the West Australian premier isn't coming in for more criticism as yet. Always risky giving others (federal government) grief whilst your own backyard is a shambles.

1 case = Lockdown
2 cases = Lockdown
3 cases = No Lockdown

And the Federal government are trying to push travel bubbles. Love to know what international tourists would be willing to come here when there's no criteria for how outbreaks are handled.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Not only are we proper campaigners to refugees but now if you're unlucky enough to be overseas at the wrong time you'll get similar treatment.

Surprised the West Australian premier isn't coming in for more criticism as yet. Always risky giving others (federal government) grief whilst your own backyard is a shambles.

1 case = Lockdown
2 cases = Lockdown
3 cases = No Lockdown

And the Federal government are trying to push travel bubbles. Love to know what international tourists would be willing to come here when there's no criteria for how outbreaks are handled.

I think it will change when we and the world gets jabbed up and have the travel passport

Hard bit will be getting enough of us jabbed up quick

 

[craigos]

I think it will change when we and the world gets jabbed up and have the travel passport

Hard bit will be getting enough of us jabbed up quick

I'm not confident it'll happen at all. Firstly we need to get the magic number vaccinated (and periodically updated by all accounts) and secondly the state governments are going to have to be happy with having many positive cases active.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

I'm not confident it'll happen at all. Firstly we need to get the magic number vaccinated (and periodically updated by all accounts) and secondly the state governments are going to have to be happy with having many positive cases active.

They're going to have to be eventually.

 

[craigos]

They're going to have to be eventually.

I thought so too but with all the "high risk" and frontline people having received their vaccinations, plus the halting of travel from India, it doesn't seem that anything has changed. Feels like we're in exactly the same position we were in 18 months ago (minus the initial outbreak)

 

[Hawk Dork]

I thought so too but with all the "high risk" and frontline people having received their vaccinations, plus the halting of travel from India, it doesn't seem that anything has changed. Feels like we're in exactly the same position we were in 18 months ago (minus the initial outbreak)

hardly anyones had the vax



Australia has now administered 2,234,844 doses of the coronavirus vaccine.

This includes first and second doses of both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines.


At the current rate, it will take until 2023 for all Australians to be vaccinated.

How many people in Australia have been vaccinated against COVID-19?

After a slow start, Australia's coronavirus vaccine program significantly picked up the pace. Here are the latest numbers.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[Evolved1]

They're going to have to be eventually.

Lockdowns and border protection are popular policy. With fear of health risks associated with the vaccines, many people are going to wait it out.

New variants will emerge, so we'll need protection from them before we open up further. Round and round we go.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see an exit strategy here.

 

[tandino]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see an exit strategy here.

Not just you. I can't see the point in time when we are going to take the step into the unknown

 

[dont bowl there]

I think it will change when we and the world gets jabbed up and have the travel passport

Hard bit will be getting enough of us jabbed up quick

Problem will be people like you who will only have the jab if it means you can travel internationally. But we won’t be able to travel because not enough people will have been vaccinated.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Problem will be people like you who will only have the jab if it means you can travel internationally. But we won’t be able to travel because not enough people will have been vaccinated.

ordering the jab and getting it here then rolling it out then ordering the 3 rd doses would help

 

[dont bowl there]

ordering the jab and getting it here then rolling it out then ordering the 3 rd doses would help

Would it? You have stated you won’t have it until travel is open. If there are enough thinking the same we are ****ed going forward.

 

[craigos]

hardly anyones had the vax



Australia has now administered 2,234,844 doses of the coronavirus vaccine.

This includes first and second doses of both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines.


At the current rate, it will take until 2023 for all Australians to be vaccinated.

How many people in Australia have been vaccinated against COVID-19?

After a slow start, Australia's coronavirus vaccine program significantly picked up the pace. Here are the latest numbers.

www.sbs.com.au

Yeah but phase 1A and 1B have been "completed" which are the high risk and frontline staff which is what I was talking about. Isn't the goal to protect the "at risk" people?

 

[craigos]

Would it? You have stated you won’t have it until travel is open. If there are enough thinking the same we are f’ed going forward.

Doesn't help when the federal government are making statements that even when everyone is vaccinated that borders could remain closed.

 

[dont bowl there]

Just over it tbh. Seems like we are just sitting in a cycle of lockdowns. Is what it is but doesn’t help when righteous people won’t get the vaccine until it suits them personally.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Yeah but phase 1A and 1B have been "completed" which are the high risk and frontline staff which is what I was talking about. Isn't the goal to protect the "at risk" people?

Apr 22
Thousands of aged care residents yet to receive their first COVID-19 vaccine dose

‘Let down’: ALP slams aged care rollout

Thousands of aged care residents yet to receive their first COVID-19 vaccine dose have been “let down” by the federal government, Labor says.

www.news.com.au

 

[dont bowl there]

Doesn't help when the federal government are making statements that even when everyone is vaccinated that borders could remain closed.

Yeah. I think I’m just completely over it. Could always see the end and way out, not so much anymore.

 

[Chief]

Bullshit, I bet if it was Albanese ordering this she'd be jumping for joy.

Albanese wouldn't, though.