Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 3

[Gralin]

This is part Three.

Part One can be found here -

Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. (Thread part 1 - cont in part 2, link in thread)

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Part Two can be found here -

Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 4

This is part Four. Part One can be found here - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/coronavirus-the-afl-season-postponed.1236651/unread Part Two can be found here -...

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Australian stats page:

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

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[blackcat]

View attachment 878997
Alistair Haimes
@AlistairHaimes

If #Covid_19 had struck in winter; shown versus 1999 and 2000 influenza seasons. Updated for today's
@ONS mortality figures.

southern hemisphere insulation

+ landlocked isolation

*Brazil monty python director gillian✌

 

[blackcat]

Yeah it's been happening for centuries.

Walonia-Flanders divide

 

[Les Malone]

Is this the first respiratory virus that wont disappear unless we download an app?

 

[Les Malone]

Wa
Walonia-Flanders divide

Is Belgium really a country anyway ?.

 

[Monkey King]

and 'they' were calling him racist for closing the borders

Wouldn't matter if someone called him a watermelon.

 

[blackcat]

Is Belgium really a country anyway ?.

King Leopold

good at pushing bikes

and high alcohol trappist brew

Moules est frites

PierreRyckmansWalterWouter deBackerMatthiasCormann not sure what other ties

 

[blackcat]

Wouldn't matter if someone called him a watermelon.

James Delingpole or Toby Young?

 

[blackcat]

Wouldn't matter if someone called him a watermelon.

this specific to flights from China

could have HRC said same sans opprobrium ?

 

[kirky]

but that is not like-to-like comparison ceteris paribus

It is conjecture with no hard evidence beyond Sweden (as normalised model) for States that did not have lockdown, the virus has not been lopping off youth, young adults, and children, but they have been yoked with the consequences. s**t I am sounding like Peter Hitchens

You don’t have answer this if you don’t want to, but which age bracket (ie 30-39 etc) do you fall under?

 

[Les Malone]

King Leopold

good at pushing bikes

and high alcohol trappist brew

Moules est frites

PierreRyckmansWalterWouter deBackerMatthiasCormann not sure what other ties

good for pushing up poppies!

 

[blackcat]

good for pushing up poppies!

they paint
the masters
they cut diamonds in antwerp

 

[kirky]

It's a pretty simple question:

- Would the person have died that day if they did not have COVID-19?

Like the debate about mortality rates, I feel it's part of an agenda by the anti-lockdown and conspiracy crowd to downplay the virus. It also cheapens the value of human life by saying 'well, sure you may only be 50 but you had hypertension, so it was your time to go anyway'.

Sort of like the “Logans Run” movie.

We have to value life however the thought processes of some leave a lot to be desired.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

the unemployed introverted pro-lockdown crowd

There is truth to this though, isn't there?

If you're being honest, I mean.

 

[blackcat]

You don’t have answer this if you don’t want to, but which age bracket (ie 30-39 etc) do you fall under?

That

or. Not young.

I think paradoxically, the youth will cop it disproportionately, and be paying back deficit debt we saddled next generations with

I don't propose letting the economy of its leash, I do not propose not doing everything for vulnerable*

*but it is not a binary, folks just have zero handle on the complexity in modern world and the modern economy,

the way the media have adopted the self-delegated role to scare the polis is beyond the pale for mine

 

[Les Malone]

they paint
the masters
they cut diamonds in antwerp

yep OK, i was referring to the huge loss at Flanders, hundreds of thousands of men and many Australians in that (12,000) it would want to be good ....

 

[Les Malone]

There is truth to this though, isn't there?

If you're being honest, I mean.

he thinks he is, but his bias is like everyone else's ..... and of course he always to reverts to everyone who didn't want to lockdown as a granny killer or thinks life is cheap, its actually a very cheap argument and one that looks shallowly or superficially at the top layer, most of the stats prove that this is no different to many pandemics within recent living memory.

 

[blackcat]

It's a pretty simple question:

- Would the person have died that day if they did not have COVID-19?

Like the debate about mortality rates, I feel it's part of an agenda by the anti-lockdown and conspiracy crowd to downplay the virus. It also cheapens the value of human life by saying 'well, sure you may only be 50 but you had hypertension, so it was your time to go anyway'.

we already put a price on human life, economists/statisticians/actuaries already compile submissions for court regarding compensation
we don't mandate road laws restricting speed to 30kmph

As i said before :
The Blackcat Paradox says

as societies become more prosperous their tolerance for risk and fatality has an inverse correlation

#JonathanHaidt
#riskaversion
#bedwetters edit : <- I edited that cherf
medusala
GuruJane

 

[Monkey King]

this specific to flights from China

could have HRC said same sans opprobrium ?

Referencing Hillary Clinton in response to a statistical model from Columbia University is just plain odd.

I live in the States and supported an even more stringent travel ban than the one Trump implemented, as I personally knew of at least 2 people from China who planned to layover in Japan for 2 weeks before entering the country.

The travel ban was an initial step in the right direction, but not enough of one to spend the next month doing almost nothing to prepare and misinforming citizens about the potential risk. It was a half measure and not even the most important half.

 

[blackcat]

Referencing Hillary Clinton in response to a statistical model from Columbia University is just plain odd.

I live in the States and supported an even more stringent travel ban than the one Trump implemented, as I personally knew of at least 2 people from China who planned to layover in Japan for 2 weeks before entering the country.

The travel ban was an initial step in the right direction, but not enough of one to spend the next month doing almost nothing to prepare and misinforming citizens about the potential risk. It was a half measure and not even the most important half.

was in reference to the racist appellation for Trump if HRC does the same and closes flights into La Guardia JFK and LAX

 

[blackcat]

Monkey King you can't possibly be au fait with all discussions occurring at Pennsylvania Avenue

Just like reading the Bezos WaPo or NewYork Times one cannot neutralise for the bias,

Don't read Murdoch, don't read papers-of-record

 

[Thetrader15]

Any news on what's happening with the players pay cut after June?

Given the AFL and clubs are begging fans for money, I can only assume there will be massive cuts for players for the rest of the year as a mimimum

 

[Aussie in exile]

Any news on what's happening with the players pay cut after June?

Given the AFL and clubs are begging fans for money, I can only assume there will be massive cuts for players for the rest of the year as a mimimum

In my opinion AFL house has a lot of fat that needs to be cut. Staff and wages
Clubs need to cut their cloth accordingly in these harsh times. Wages and staff need to be cut at clubs as well

 

[Sub_Zero]

COVID-19 and Your Health

Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.

www.cdc.gov

I don't have a source for the Belgian thing, I heard it on the news in passing the other day.

I actually live my life and don't spend the day researching how dangerous Covid-19 is like the unemployed on here who don't want lockdowns to end

So in other words you have no idea what you're talking about and are just sprouting bullshit. Gotcha

 

[Forward Press]

So in other words you have no idea what you're talking about and are just sprouting bullshit. Gotcha

Even if you take it on face value - that the true number of Belgians dying from COVID-19 is half that given - it's still well above the typical death rate for flu, and still puts it in the top 5 overall.

Best way is to probably just look at excess deaths, since we have years of data to compare it to.

 

[Les Malone]

So in other words you have no idea what you're talking about and are just sprouting bullshit. Gotcha

Have you been paying any attention to the last 2 pages or so, there is plenty of info backing him up.