I'd say people washing their hands many times a day is also helping.Hopefully more and more of us will see the value in an annual flu shot.
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I'd say people washing their hands many times a day is also helping.Hopefully more and more of us will see the value in an annual flu shot.
It now looks like NSW asked the questions and were assured by the company (Carnival/Princess) that all was well.The federal government announced a ban on normal cruise ship arrival and disembarkation from foreign ports on the 15th, yet the Ruby Princess was one of 4 ships granted an exemption.
Despite the department of Home Affairs overseeing this process and being responsible for borders, immigration and helping coordinate biosecurity, officers present allowed the arrivals to leave the ship, despite NSW health trying to resolve concerns about infections on the ship. Now both sides, the NSW government and the Federal government have done a degree of finger pointing, but the fact remains an absurd situation was allowed to unfold and given the degree of federal intervention preceding the fiasco, over plane and cruise ship arrivals, the whole thing stinks.
The flu shot is pretty unreliableHopefully more and more of us will see the value in an annual flu shot.
Is it?The flu shot is pretty unreliable
Chuck him on one of the cruise ships and send him off with themLook at this kent from the WAPOL Facebook page.
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I believe* that due to the large number of different strains of the virus, they have to try and predict the most likely strains to be prevalent in winter, usually looking at Northern Hemisphere data in the months leading up to flu season. That allows them time to get a trivalent or quadrivalent vaccine prepared to protect from three or four predicted strains. But that doesn't always match what we get when the season comes around.Is it?
In spite of all of that, it is still worth having the shot.I believe* that due to the large number of different strains of the virus, they have to try and predict the most likely strains to be prevalent in winter, usually looking at Northern Hemisphere data in the months leading up to flu season. That allows them time to get a trivalent or quadrivalent vaccine prepared to protect from three or four predicted strains. But that doesn't always match what we get when the season comes around.
People also still get the flu, often a milder form, despite the vaccine. It's just a notoriously tricky virus to predict and protect against, and unfortunately also gives some people who are prone to anti-vaxx beliefs the idea that other vaccines are similar- not always effective and sometimes dangerous. But the standard vaccines that are recommended in children to protect from mumps, measles, rubella etc. are all outstandingly effective, relative to the flu shot. Which is why we don't have to keep getting them every year.
There are many reasons flu shots aren't as good as other vaccines
Flu shots don't work as well as other vaccines, and doctors and patients alike struggle to understand why.www.nbcnews.comWhy doesn't the flu vaccine work sometimes? - UChicago Medicine
New research from UChicago and Harvard shows that immune history with the flu influences a person’s response to the vaccine.www.uchicagomedicine.org
I think if people keep up the handwashing and overall hygiene habits that would probably help the flu season remarkably. But I don't think that will happen.
What a farken idiot.Look at this kent from the WAPOL Facebook page.
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Oh yeah, absolutely.In spite of all of that, it is still worth having the shot.
Flu vaccines usually work fine if you come into contact with one of the flu's you are vaccinated against. Some vaccines don't cover too many strains of flu, make sure you get the one with the widest coverage, although i believe there is the odd strain that is resistant to vaccines. Still better off having it than not.The flu shot is pretty unreliable
In terms of risk/reward it's a no-brainer. Take it, and you cover yourself to some degree. Don't take it, and have no coverage. It's a bit like travel insurance.Flu vaccines usually work fine if you come into contact with one of the flu's you are vaccinated against. Some vaccines don't cover too many strains of flu, make sure you get the one with the widest coverage, although i believe there is the odd strain that is resistant to vaccines. Still better off having it than not.
Can't wait for the next time I have to whinge about paying travel insurance.In terms of risk/reward it's a no-brainer. Take it, and you cover yourself to some degree. Don't take it, and have no coverage. It's a bit like travel insurance.
Indeed. Bring back first world problems, hey.Can't wait for the next time I have to whinge about paying travel insurance.
Just accidentally shoot the campaigner. America , * yeah.Look at this kent from the WAPOL Facebook page.
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Him, the orange thing and bolsonaro are going to hate their pages in the history books.The US currently has 311k cases
New York alone has 114k cases
Next best country is Spain on 126k
New York is the new epicentre for this. With hindsight the comments from the mayor and others to go out and enjoy themselves seems almost criminal given the predicament they are now in. Their arrogance in dismissing this as just a mild cold or flu has come back to haunt them big time.
If idiots stop being tough and going to work when they are ill will make a huge differenceI believe* that due to the large number of different strains of the virus, they have to try and predict the most likely strains to be prevalent in winter, usually looking at Northern Hemisphere data in the months leading up to flu season. That allows them time to get a trivalent or quadrivalent vaccine prepared to protect from three or four predicted strains. But that doesn't always match what we get when the season comes around.
People also still get the flu, often a milder form, despite the vaccine. It's just a notoriously tricky virus to predict and protect against, and unfortunately also gives some people who are prone to anti-vaxx beliefs the idea that other vaccines are similar- not always effective and sometimes dangerous. But the standard vaccines that are recommended in children to protect from mumps, measles, rubella etc. are all outstandingly effective, relative to the flu shot. Which is why we don't have to keep getting them every year.
There are many reasons flu shots aren't as good as other vaccines
Flu shots don't work as well as other vaccines, and doctors and patients alike struggle to understand why.www.nbcnews.comWhy doesn't the flu vaccine work sometimes? - UChicago Medicine
New research from UChicago and Harvard shows that immune history with the flu influences a person’s response to the vaccine.www.uchicagomedicine.org
I think if people keep up the handwashing and overall hygiene habits that would probably help the flu season remarkably. But I don't think that will happen.
*Not an expert
It's not always toughness, sometimes you just need to work when you're living hand to mouth on a casual roster. Don't show up a few times and see how quickly you get dropped off the roster in some industries.If idiots stop being tough and going to work when they are ill will make a huge difference
a full time workforce with sick days will also help
i feel that after this if you rock up to work with a sniffle it wont be looked at the same way now ....
I did mention that ft work with sickdays will helpIt's not always toughness, sometimes you just need to work when you're living hand to mouth on a casual roster. Don't show up a few times and see how quickly you get dropped off the roster in some industries.
Pretty well spot on. From the NHS...I believe* that due to the large number of different strains of the virus, they have to try and predict the most likely strains to be prevalent in winter, usually looking at Northern Hemisphere data in the months leading up to flu season. That allows them time to get a trivalent or quadrivalent vaccine prepared to protect from three or four predicted strains. But that doesn't always match what we get when the season comes around.
People also still get the flu, often a milder form, despite the vaccine. It's just a notoriously tricky virus to predict and protect against, and unfortunately also gives some people who are prone to anti-vaxx beliefs the idea that other vaccines are similar- not always effective and sometimes dangerous. But the standard vaccines that are recommended in children to protect from mumps, measles, rubella etc. are all outstandingly effective, relative to the flu shot. Which is why we don't have to keep getting them every year.
Been doing a fair amount of reading about mutating - heres the good news :Pretty well spot on. From the NHS...
It will not stop all flu viruses and the level of protection may vary, so it's not a 100% guarantee that you'll be flu-free.
But if you do get flu after vaccination, it's likely to be milder and shorter-lived than it would otherwise have been.
Over time, protection from the injected flu vaccine gradually decreases, and flu strains often change.
New flu vaccines are produced each year, which is why people advised to have the flu vaccine need it every year, too.
Each year, the viruses that are most likely to cause flu are identified in advance and the World Health Organization (WHO) recommends which type of flu virus strains to include in the vaccine.
Let's hope that when we get a C-19 vaccine it is a one time, long term effective one such as the MMR rather than a keeps mutating new vaccine every year job.
I don't know enough about it, I wonder what our success rate is with other coronavirus types w.r.t a vaccine?Pretty well spot on. From the NHS...
It will not stop all flu viruses and the level of protection may vary, so it's not a 100% guarantee that you'll be flu-free.
But if you do get flu after vaccination, it's likely to be milder and shorter-lived than it would otherwise have been.
Over time, protection from the injected flu vaccine gradually decreases, and flu strains often change.
New flu vaccines are produced each year, which is why people advised to have the flu vaccine need it every year, too.
Each year, the viruses that are most likely to cause flu are identified in advance and the World Health Organization (WHO) recommends which type of flu virus strains to include in the vaccine.
Let's hope that when we get a C-19 vaccine it is a one time, long term effective one such as the MMR rather than a keeps mutating new vaccine every year job.
I don't know enough about it, I wonder what our success rate is with other coronavirus types w.r.t a vaccine?
Not good. For the two closely related Coronaviruses, MERS and SARS, there is no vaccine available or completed.I don't know enough about it, I wonder what our success rate is with other coronavirus types w.r.t a vaccine?