News Coronavirus Thread

[Scallop Industry Thug]

How can it be defeated without a vaccine? We’d have to close the borders until one was produced.

And we’d have to be willing to lockdown every time there was a flare up, which would surely be likely.

 

[Gasometer]

Snake_Baker can you explain "second wave" infections in the Australian context please?

 

[Val Keating]

How can it be defeated without a vaccine? We’d have to close the borders until one was produced.

And we’d have to be willing to lockdown every time there was a flare up, which would surely be likely.

In my completely uneducated logic, It’ll probably mutate and not be as contagious or deadly because like every other living thing surviving will be the thing that keeps it going. I’m thinking Darwinism on a micro scale.

Or not

 

[glenn2479]

I think the NRL have come up with a cure. Why else would they announce a restart date, apparently without consulting with the NSW government. Every moron NRL exec should be tested for concussion. We put a lot of crap on Gil and Co but geez we’ve got it good compared to NRL. Must be great being an NRL fan at the moment...” hey let’s go to the park and throw the ball to each other”

 

[Wayne Campbell]

Recoveries overtake active cases!

 

[Orange Peanut]

How can it be defeated without a vaccine? We’d have to close the borders until one was produced.

And we’d have to be willing to lockdown every time there was a flare up, which would surely be likely.

But that would be ok yeah?
If we could get to a stage where we are back, very gradually, to stage 1 restrictions but closed borders, that gives a new version of "normal life" a chance to exist until a vaccine's available. I reckon I'd take that.

 

[Carlos Herrrnandez]

In Victoria there is 926 recoveries from 1241 total cases.

302 active in the state of 6.6M

big Easter break here...

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

In Victoria there is 926 recoveries from 1241 total cases.

302 active in the state of 6.6M

big Easter break here...

Wider testing in the community is a crucial step.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

In Victoria there is 926 recoveries from 1241 total cases.

302 active in the state of 6.6M

big Easter break here...

These are the only numbers that matter.

302 only? I like those odds.

 

[Carlos Herrrnandez]

Wider testing in the community is a crucial step.

I hear this a lot, and wonder why people make this claim when Prof Brendan Murphy said he would only be testing asymptomatic people in nursing homes.

is there some info you’re privvy to that the government isn’t?

 

[7577969923]

In my completely uneducated logic, It’ll probably mutate and not be as contagious or deadly because like every other living thing surviving will be the thing that keeps it going. I’m thinking Darwinism on a micro scale.

Or not

Not an expert either but from what I have read it has to continually find new hosts to say viable. If you isolate the last infected person in Australia so they can't pass it on they will recover and the virus will no longer exist in the country. Someone would have to come in from overseas that with the virus to trigger a new outbreak.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I hear this a lot, and wonder why people make this claim when Prof Brendan Murphy said he would only be testing asymptomatic people in nursing homes.

is there some info you’re privvy to that the government isn’t?

Bondi and other Sydney pop up tents for a start.

 

[Gasometer]

Let's define closed borders thanks.

That means-

No Flights- if there are Flights that means no contact with Ground Crews unless full protection.

Boats- Commercial- Fishing- Cruise- same as above

Leisure Boats - private- same as above

Rescuing Ships- same as above

Private Flights- no overseas celebrities; politicians, no o/s Melb Cup horses (not such a bad thing), music acts, sports- tennis, golf, NZ Rugby Teams- or quarantine first then free to go?

Illegal Boats- requires Navy to have full protection

International Students in Tertiary - no, or quarantine first? And then how?

Huge undertaking; we better be good at it.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Redirect Notice

 

[Snake_Baker]

Snake_Baker can you explain "second wave" infections in the Australian context please?

I suspect they were referring to infections that arise within the Australian population after the external factors have been removed.

 

[7577969923]

I hear this a lot, and wonder why people make this claim when Prof Brendan Murphy said he would only be testing asymptomatic people in nursing homes.

is there some info you’re privvy to that the government isn’t?

Apparently Victoria has started testing every 5th person that presents at testing centres regardless of symptoms to get a more randomised view.

I have advocated for randomised community testing as a way of validating our numbers and ensuring, as best we can, that no unknown pockets of potential outbreak exist. Not claiming to be an expert though.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Apparently Victoria has started testing every 5th person that presents at testing centres regardless of symptoms to get a more randomised view.

I have advocated for randomised community testing as a way of validating our numbers and ensuring, as best we can, that no unknown pockets of potential outbreak exist.

The low positivity rates give me some confidence.

 

[7577969923]

Let's define closed borders thanks.

That means-

No Flights- if there are Flights that means no contact with Ground Crews unless full protection.

Boats- Commercial- Fishing- Cruise- same as above

Leisure Boats - private- same as above

Rescuing Ships- same as above

Private Flights- no overseas celebrities; politicians, no o/s Melb Cup horses (not such a bad thing), music acts, sports- tennis, golf, NZ Rugby Teams- or quarantine first then free to go?

Illegal Boats- requires Navy to have full protection

International Students in Tertiary - no, or quarantine first? And then how?

Huge undertaking; we better be good at it.

Compulsory quarantine for every inbound arrival regardless of source with strict protocols and regular testing in place for anyone that has contact with them like airport and quarantine hotel staff. It's effectively what we are doing now, isn't it?

 

[Gasometer]

Compulsory quarantine for every inbound arrival regardless of source with strict protocols and regular testing in place for anyone that has contact with them like airport and quarantine hotel staff. It's effectively what we are doing now, isn't it?

Every single entry at reduced entry rates or as per normal (say November 2019) levels?

Are we saying normal entries and quarantine from October onwards? How do you regulate such large numbers and so many different methods of entry?

 

[Tas]

I found this an informative video on chloroquine

 

[Carlos Herrrnandez]

Compulsory quarantine for every inbound arrival regardless of source with strict protocols and regular testing in place for anyone that has contact with them like airport and quarantine hotel staff. It's effectively what we are doing now, isn't it?

I think this is the likely scenario.

Mind you while we are doing a great job the rest of the world...

we might just let Aussies back for a while? Who knows?

 

[Tas]

Apparently Victoria has started testing every 5th person that presents at testing centres regardless of symptoms to get a more randomised view.

I have advocated for randomised community testing as a way of validating our numbers and ensuring, as best we can, that no unknown pockets of potential outbreak exist. Not claiming to be an expert though.

It seems the majority of cases which didn't occur from travelling or direct contact with travellers are isolated in a handful of regions, we need to do some random testing of people in the hotspots and try and track down those who are spreading it, they are likely asymptomatic and don't know they are spreading it. We need to try and get some meaningful data from these hotspots to try and narrow down the likely cause of infection transmission.

It is why it was so important to quarantine and test for the virus, trying to track down infected people in a city of millions is like finding a needle in a haystack. But we aren't even looking in the right haystacks, we are just waiting for the wind to blow some infected hay and we are just testing many people who might just have a cold or a flu. We need to be less reactive and more proactive about tracking down those in hotspots who may be infected. Otherwise this shit show is just going to go on forever with low rates of infections and will flare up every time we relax movement.

 

[Horace]

Just updated the numbers in my country comparison spreadsheet. The USA has absolutely nailed it for most confirmed cases. The way they are going they will knock Italy off for most deaths, while the UK is hot on the heels of Italy to claim the most deaths as a percentage of confirmed cases.

09-04-20
Country	Population as at	Confirmed	Reported	Deaths as %	Equivalent	Deaths as %	Standardised
	Jan-20	Cases	Deaths	Population	1 Aus Death	Confirmed Cases	to Aust Nos.
Australia	25,718,140​	6,109​	54​	0.0209969%​	1​	0.8839417%​	1​
China	1,439,323,776​	81,907​	3,336​	0.0231776%​	1.10​	4.0729120%​	4.61​
Germany	81,453,631​	118,235​	2,536​	0.3113428%​	14.83​	2.1448810%​	2.43​
Italy	60,483,296​	143,626​	18,279​	3.0221567%​	143.93​	12.7268043%​	14.40​
Spain	45,714,609​	153,222​	15,447​	3.3790074%​	160.93​	10.0814504%​	11.41​
UK	65,575,226​	65,078​	7,978​	1.2166180%​	57.94​	12.2591352%​	13.87​
USA	330,222,422​	469,021​	16,675​	0.5049627%​	24.05​	3.5552779%​	4.02​

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Just updated the numbers in my country comparison spreadsheet. The USA has absolutely nailed it for most confirmed cases. The way they are going they will knock Italy off for most deaths, while the UK is hot on the heels of Italy to claim the most deaths as a percentage of confirmed cases.

09-04-20
Country	Population as at	Confirmed	Reported	Deaths as %	Equivalent	Deaths as %	Standardised
	Jan-20	Cases	Deaths	Population	1 Aus Death	Confirmed Cases	to Aust Nos.
Australia	25,718,140​	6,109​	54​	0.0209969%​	1​	0.8839417%​	1​
China	1,439,323,776​	81,907​	3,336​	0.0231776%​	1.10​	4.0729120%​	4.61​
Germany	81,453,631​	118,235​	2,536​	0.3113428%​	14.83​	2.1448810%​	2.43​
Italy	60,483,296​	143,626​	18,279​	3.0221567%​	143.93​	12.7268043%​	14.40​
Spain	45,714,609​	153,222​	15,447​	3.3790074%​	160.93​	10.0814504%​	11.41​
UK	65,575,226​	65,078​	7,978​	1.2166180%​	57.94​	12.2591352%​	13.87​
USA	330,222,422​	469,021​	16,675​	0.5049627%​	24.05​	3.5552779%​	4.02​

Any stats on positivity and testing rates?

 

[SMaturin]

That cruise ship will go down in Australian history.