Mega Thread >>COVID-19 DISCUSSION THREAD<<

[The King!]

Wait, a potential economic depression is a choice? I'll pass then, thanks!

A choice between playing footy versus not playing at all because it may be compromised

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

I actually really like this idea. Many of the players do as well. In fact they prefer being in lockdown with each other than mum and dad, and some are currently returning to sydney for that reason. Yes some players would not want to do it, and there should be an opt out with a mini draft of players from state leagues to backfill. Strange times need strange solutions!

Problem is it's not just the players, most of whom would see it all as a bit of an adventure. It's the administrators, coaches, support staff, medical staff. That's a lot of people to take from their families for months on end.

 

[Ralphyboy]

Problem is it's not just the players, most of whom would see it all as a bit of an adventure. It's the administrators, coaches, support staff, medical staff. That's a lot of people to take from their families for months on end.

I agree it's difficult but if it is voluntary and those involved get to substantially improve their incomes, why not? Lots of workers have to be away from family for lengthy periods. I see that Tangallooma resort in queensland is actively pitching to the NRL to host the season there.

I know the AFL has it's hands full trying to keep the code alive etc and worrying about the likelihood this season even starts and the consequences if it doesn't. But I would love to see serious consideration of the possibility of a televised footy season from a locked down location. The solution guarantees that the league survives. I wonder whether it could be done in Melbourne using a combination of local grounds and hotels close by.

 

[caesar88]

A choice between playing footy versus not playing at all because it may be compromised

I just think if you persist too much with this season which is already sorta f'd, you run the risk of it having a knock-on effect in 2021. I guess everyone might see it differently but I would rather have no footy this year and an entire, uncompromised season in 2021, than back to back compromised seasons.

 

[replicant]

I just think if you persist too much with this season which is already sorta f'd, you run the risk of it having a knock-on effect in 2021. I guess everyone might see it differently but I would rather have no footy this year and an entire, uncompromised season in 2021, than back to back compromised seasons.

I don't really mind if the seasons are compromised. Everyone will know it, so even the winner won't get the usual bragging rights. But i just miss the footy. Besides, we need to get games into our young guys. Any games are better than none, if we realistically think we're 2-3 years off challenging anyway.

 

[Ralphyboy]

I don't really mind if the seasons are compromised. Everyone will know it, so even the winner won't get the usual bragging rights. But i just miss the footy. Besides, we need to get games into our young guys. Any games are better than none, if we realistically think we're 2-3 years off challenging anyway.

The critical pressure on the playing the season is the TV payments. There are very dire consequences if the full loss is realised.

 

[caesar88]

I don't really mind if the seasons are compromised. Everyone will know it, so even the winner won't get the usual bragging rights. But i just miss the footy. Besides, we need to get games into our young guys. Any games are better than none, if we realistically think we're 2-3 years off challenging anyway.

That is true, but IMO any footy there is cannot go past October, November at the latest.

 

[Kirkswan]

I'm looking for a Coronavirus Trajectory tracker... anyone know any good ones?

 

[ScottBo]

I'm looking for a Coronavirus Trajectory tracker... anyone know any good ones?

Not a future tracker but this is really good, constantly updated and easy to read. Worldwide snapshot yet detailed.

COVID-19 Map - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)

coronavirus.jhu.edu

 

[Kirkswan]

Not a future tracker but this is really good, constantly updated and easy to read. Worldwide snapshot yet detailed.

COVID-19 Map - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)

coronavirus.jhu.edu

Didn't want future... just facts. And this is exactly what I was looking for, thank you very much!

 

[The King!]

They should say wether the people who die are virus only or if there were underlying issues

few people approaching 80 die umm ok

 

[Kirkswan]

They should say wether the people who die are virus only or if there were underlying issues

few people approaching 80 die umm ok

Most well nourished, fairly fit people will simply have a version of the flu like symptoms... from an irritating dry cough to a fairly heavy flu. This is considered a mild case.

People who have co-morbidities (asthma, bronchitis, heart condition, recovering from a previous illness, low immune system to name a few) are much more likely to require hospitalisation, and/or die.

Age itself is not a factor if you are fit and healthy, but that's pretty rare when you're over 80.

Young children & teenagers appear to be coping very well, if they have no co-morbidities, and are often completely symptom-less.

Babies appear to be at risk (but I've read heaps of different advices here).

NB: I am NOT a doctor and this is just what I have read...

 

[The King!]

Most well nourished, fairly fit people will simply have a version of the flu like symptoms... from an irritating dry cough to a fairly heavy flu. This is considered a mild case.

People who have co-morbidities (asthma, bronchitis, heart condition, recovering from a previous illness, low immune system to name a few) are much more likely to require hospitalisation, and/or die.

Age itself is not a factor if you are fit and healthy, but that's pretty rare when you're over 80.

Young children & teenagers appear to be coping very well, if they have no co-morbidities, and are often completely symptom-less.

Babies appear to be at risk (but I've read heaps of different advices here).

NB: I am NOT a doctor and this is just what I have read...

Sorry just having a bad moment

 

[sataris]

Sorry just having a bad moment

You're not alone!

 

[scaryness]

They should say wether the people who die are virus only or if there were underlying issues

few people approaching 80 die umm ok

NYC are saying only 1.8% of all of their deaths so far have no underlying conditions

 

[caesar88]

I am quite surprised that cities with a heavy population density, like Tokyo, Manila, Delhi, Sao Paulo and Mexico City, have not been relatively troubled by this pandemic. Surprising they haven't all followed NYC's trajectory

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

NYC are saying only 1.8% of all of their deaths so far have no underlying conditions

1.8% death rate for otherwise healthy/fit people is pretty significant.

 

[Kirkswan]

Sorry just having a bad moment

You're not the first, you won't be the last... I've had a few myself and had to go back and edit posts!

 

[Swansujelly]

So Dan Murphys was a nonevent. 4 people, plenty of everything, except pasta and tp.

 

[Kirkswan]

1.8% death rate for otherwise healthy/fit people is pretty significant.

Consider that over 1,000,000 people have contracted it... and the death toll is currently 53,000, and of those, only 954 fit and healthy people have died.

The wonders of modern medicine...

 

[sataris]

Consider that over 1,000,000 people have contracted it... and the death toll is currently 53,000, and of those, only 954 fit and healthy people have died.

The wonders of modern medicine...

The transmission factor / velocity is supposed to be about 3

so that's n³

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Consider that over 1,000,000 people have contracted it... and the death toll is currently 53,000, and of those, only 954 fit and healthy people have died.

The wonders of modern medicine...

Covid-19 is a variant of the spanish flu but 100 years in advancements have made humans more adaptable.

Keep in mind the statistics of the spanish flu are wildly inaccurate.

If the Spanish flu infected 500 million and killed 50 to 100 million, the global CFR was 10 to 20 percent. If the fatality rate was in fact 2.5 percent, and if 500 million were infected, then the death toll was 12.5 million. There were 1.8 billion people in 1918. To make 50 million deaths compatible with a 2.5 percent CFR would require at least two billion infections—more than the number of people that existed at the time.

 

[sataris]

1 month shutdown from Monday

All non-essential services shut down,

The ministry of Health will be randomly inspecting business, and if you're caught working where you're not supposed to be, the entire workforce gets sent home and if you're a foreigner your work pass is cancelled on the spot you are escorted to the airport.

Good times ahead.

 

[Swansujelly]

Bottle shops are essential, surely. Do they want riots?

 

[Swansujelly]

1 month shutdown from Monday

All non-essential services shut down,

The ministry of Health will be randomly inspecting business, and if you're caught working where you're not supposed to be, the entire workforce gets sent home and if you're a foreigner your work pass is cancelled on the spot you are escorted to the airport.

Good times ahead.

From Nanny state to Police State in a few weeks.