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http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/deadline-set-for-malthouse/2009/04/16/1239475000462.html

MICK Malthouse will know by June whether or not he has a future at Collingwood.

The dual premiership coach, who will have completed a decade at the helm of the Magpies at the end of this season, will have a firm idea of his prospects when the club enters the mid-season bye after its Queen's Birthday clash with Melbourne on June 8.

The AFL's oldest and one of the most respected mentors in the game has become increasingly linked with Richmond beyond 2009. Tigers coach Terry Wallace is fighting to keep his job while the Magpies have a firm eye on their favourite son, the recently retired Nathan Buckley.

The Age understands Collingwood chief executive Gary Pert has unofficially decreed June and, more specifically, post-round 11 as the suitable time to begin meaningful talks with Malthouse, who is keen to remain a senior coach. The date has been set in the interests of both parties.

Should Collingwood be sitting among the top three or four teams on the AFL ladder by then the club would find it difficult not to keep the door open for the 55-year-old Malthouse. Anything less and the club would be likely to begin negotiating a smooth departure for the man who took the unfavoured Magpies to successive grand finals in 2002 and 2003.

At present Collingwood is sitting in the bottom half of the ladder with one win from three games and faces a crunch clash with the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba tonight.

Club chairman Eddie McGuire declared at the start of the season that neither he nor his executives would be commenting upon Malthouse's future until a decision had been reached. Pert was unavailable for comment last night.

Malthouse has told friends he remains uncertain about his future at the club and is coming to terms with the fact his coaching career at the Lexus Centre could be nearing its end. For the first time in his era at Collingwood he has moved into the final year of an agreement without an extension.

The spectre of Buckley loomed even larger after the Magpies' captain of nine years declared last week he was keen to begin a coaching career. With seven coaches coming out of contract at the end of 2009 and at least one other in Mark Harvey under enormous pressure to keep his job, Buckley is expected to have several job offers in front of him towards the end of the season.

But the prospect of the six-time Copeland winner, Brownlow and Norm Smith medallist returning to the club after two successful seasons working in the media looks irresistible. And any suggestion that Buckley may return to undergo an apprenticeship under Malthouse has been discounted by most relevant parties.

However Malthouse, a Richmond premiership player, has been unofficially raised in Tiger circles as a senior coach overseeing the still relatively inexperienced Wayne Campbell should Wallace fail to lift his team.

The unofficial round 11 deadline sits close to the date being set by the AFL Coaches' Association for senior coaches and clubs to begin contract negotiations.

Mark Williams and Dean Laidley — both out of contract this year — have clauses in their deals demanding some future certainty by the end of June.
 
IMHO the sooner we know he is gone - the better.

I think you're missing the point. The sooner we win a flag the better - if MM is the coach to bring it to us all the better, as I think he deserves a pay-off after all these years.

If new blood is required then that's OK too.
 

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You can almost feel the momentum for change building by the day.

From a distance is appears Eddie is looking at a smooth transition from MM to Bucks.
 
So Caro does a non story on Malthouse the same Weekend of Wallace's probable last stand if Richmond lose to Melbourne.

She has been trolling the Pies BB's again, I hope she sends the BF CFC mods a thank you note for putting all the MM threads together and making her research easier.
 
I get antsy just thinking about Buckley being a major part of the club again.

I would love to see what he does with us, it would be a complete reinvigoration of the club.

He put himself out there as wanting to coach next year, in all honesty I think if we don't get him next year he may well be gone for upwards 5 years +. It would be hard to argue that he won't get offered a senior coaching role after coming out and saying what he did, and especially we the amount of coaches already on the block.

I couldn't fathom it if we lost him while we continued on with Malthouse scratching and clawing , winning just enough games to make the eight.

I've always liked Malthouse and think he is still a terrific coach, I think the call for change is more related to people wanting a new perspective at the club, a new freshness and light brought in, not specifically just bashing of Malthouse. To complete disrespect MM as a coach is a pretty big mistake in my opinion.

It will be interesting to see where this goes. I'd personally much rather see us outside the eight come round 11 and bring in Buckley, then just scraping in there (we won't be top 3-4) and continuing to hold out hope that we can make a play at a premiership from there.
 
So "THE AGE UNDERSTANDS" is definitive proof is it, bullshit.

Once again the AGE has guessed what is going on, without actually talking to anyone from Collingwood about the situation.

Another greatly accurate article from the AGE, I think not.
 
So Caro does a non story on Malthouse the same Weekend of Wallace's probable last stand if Richmond lose to Melbourne.

She has been trolling the Pies BB's again, I hope she sends the BF CFC mods a thank you note for putting all the MM threads together and making her research easier.

Why does that matter? She isn't blind to the saga surrounding Wallace, and she hasn't stood by him completely and said he shouldn't go.
She took up arms more with the fact people were suggesting Sheedy would take over (which won't happen), or Wayne Campbell which she believed wouldn't be of any great benefit to the club.
She agreed they needed a new perspective on things down there.

Definitely not a non story either, you would be delusional to believe that Malthouse won't come under very close scrutiny before the season is out, and likely much earlier.
 
If Malthouse does depart, I'd really like him to take over at Richmond. For some reason, I'd like to see what he could do there.

I dont want him to go to Richmond, MM has a history of getting sides up very quickly when he first arrives at a club, and I want Richmond to stay outside of the 8 for as long as possible.
 

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I dont want him to go to Richmond, MM has a history of getting sides up very quickly when he first arrives at a club, and I want Richmond to stay outside of the 8 for as long as possible.

Even thought they are a major rival, I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the Tigers. I think it has to do with that they've been down pretty much all of my lifetime, and I wasn't around to witness the tragic 1980 Grand Final live, as well as their improbably finals run in 1995, which was the year I first started watching footy properly and started caring for anything beyond Tony Modra marking and goaling.
 
People were saying the same thing about Shaw but he did nothing with Collingwood, either through his inability or lack of recruiting. Either way, lets not get too carried away and let Bucks do his own thing.
I just hope that he does not select players that are one sided and demands that they all are able to kick of both sides, the way he does it.
Granted he was a freak, but he should make it compulsary that if you are playing in the Collingwood midfield, you must be both sided and drill the guys until they can.
 
You can almost feel the momentum for change building by the day.

From a distance is appears Eddie is looking at a smooth transition from MM to Bucks.

Yep. As I said in the MM thread all the ducks are lining up in a row.

We have Brisbane in Brisbane, Essendon, NM, St Kilda, Carlton, WC at Subiaco, Port at home and Melbourne to come in that time.

They are all winnable when we are in our best form but how many wins do you reckon MM will need by Rd 11 to get contract extension talks going?
 
People were saying the same thing about Shaw but he did nothing with Collingwood, either through his inability or lack of recruiting. Either way, lets not get too carried away and let Bucks do his own thing.
I just hope that he does not select players that are one sided and demands that they all are able to kick of both sides, the way he does it.
Granted he was a freak, but he should make it compulsary that if you are playing in the Collingwood midfield, you must be both sided and drill the guys until they can.

IMO he was one of the reasons we made the 02-03 grannys.
 
Seriously what more can Malthouse do. We've made 3 finals series in a row (only the second time in our club's history) and we've rebuilt during that period. We have the 5th youngest list. Just give Malthouse the opportunity to coach the young and up-coming stars we currently have when they are elite in 2 years time. It's finals time when Malthouse coached sides truly shine - imagine what he can do we he finally has some elite talent at his disposal for the first itme in 10 years.
 

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Total garbage, as if CFC would make a momentous decision like that based on a handful of games.. ludicrous

The die is most likely already set and was before the season started.. Wilson wouldn't know her arse from her elbow

10 years is a nice round number and Buckley was always going to coach.. these are the factors that decided it.. not how many games we win over the next 2 months

I have no doubt that's how they sack coaches at Ricmond but we are a professional football club with vision and a succession plan

We weren't too professional with Daicos or Leigh Matthews.

Even if we were professional, there's no way a "change" at Collingwood isn't going to be in the headlines for a month.

I just hope it's a positive change.

I wonder what case Bucks has to present, with no coaching experience. Are we just selecting Buckley because he is our golden boy? Much like Tony Shaw was our golden boy last decade?

I wouldn't see anything professional about that.

Not that I'm totally opposed to Bucks coaching, but I think too many here are jumping on his bandwagon with too much haste.
 
Seriously what more can Malthouse do. We've made 3 finals series in a row (only the second time in our club's history) and we've rebuilt during that period. We have the 5th youngest list. Just give Malthouse the opportunity to coach the young and up-coming stars we currently have when they are elite in 2 years time. It's finals time when Malthouse coached sides truly shine - imagine what he can do we he finally has some elite talent at his disposal for the first itme in 10 years.

Where did you dig up that statistic? We've been in grand finals 3 times in a row on at least four occasions let alone just making finals.
 
No, that's very much within the spirit of this forum.:thumbsu:

That is not only funny, it is very true.
Assuming Bucks takes over if we are not on top in year 2, the same people calling for Malthouse to go will then turn on Bucks.
Its just the way they operate, the stop and think about very little
 

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