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[Jimmy_the_Gent]

What draft pick would you put up, he was no 6 , his performance has only served to underline that selection

I like him a lot and I know he's done more by 20 then any of our young mids did.

Without knowing anything about this draft I would estimate that our first round pick would be offered but that's probably less then you want.

 

[GrandBlue]

If West Coast really are in for Conca, it's not a question of whether or not they offer their first rounder or not, it's what else they have to offer along with the pick.

There is absolutely no way the Eagles' get Conca for anything less than a first rounder, especially if he doesn't want to leave.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

We will have pick 7 or 8 this year in the draft.
I rate the players available at that pick this year as better talent than Conca.
This is a very strong midfielder's draft, there is genuine class there and players that cover
our deficiencies, we need to use our first pick.

 

[dajesmac]

If West Coast really are in for Conca, it's not a question of whether or not they offer their first rounder or not, it's what else they have to offer along with the pick.

There is absolutely no way the Eagles' get Conca for anything less than a first rounder, especially if he doesn't want to leave.

If he does leave pick 7 or 8 would probably be right.

 

[twce13]

Do not want that crab o'brien . And I would rage if we trade away our first pick.

As for conca I personally hope he re-signs for tiges. I really want to use as many high picks in the draft as possible.

 

[Calcium Man]

If he does leave pick 7 or 8 would probably be right.

Why would richmond accept less for him then they paid when his performances have only increased his value?

I'd prefer a player anyway that's shown he can play at this level, draft pick are so overvalued and GWS are proving that with pick 1 this year.

 

[Shupe]

I, too, want to use our first pick this year. Not sure what we have to offer for Conca to be honest. If we're chasing him and have made an offer, then clearly our recruiting staff have some idea.

I wonder if they've shown any interest in Brown? Package with a pick? Use the pick we get for Brown?

 

[Shupe]

I'd prefer a player anyway that's shown he can play at this level, draft pick are so overvalued and GWS are proving that with pick 1 this year.

Just curious, whom would you be interested in?

 

[Noctorniquet]

hopefully he likes the offer enough to demand a trade to west coast and we can bend the tiges over a barrel

 

[Calcium Man]

Just curious, whom would you be interested in?

Lycett and you're first pick but i doubt you would want that either. Otherwise it would be a guy like Gaff, Shuey or Selwood but i'm sure that wouldn't be you're preference but i think it ends up just being a trade where both sides end up exactly where they are but with two guys now in their home state.

 

[Noctorniquet]

Lycett and you're first pick but i doubt you would want that either. Otherwise it would be a guy like Gaff, Shuey or Selwood but i'm sure that wouldn't be you're preference but i think it ends up just being a trade where both sides end up exactly where they are but with two guys now in their home state.

Id do gaff for conca, conca was a number 6 pick and is a known quantity in what he brings to the table, is that necessarily better than taking an untried kid? could be macdougall 2.0 if we get it wrong

 

[Wally Matera]

I, too, want to use our first pick this year. Not sure what we have to offer for Conca to be honest. If we're chasing him and have made an offer, then clearly our recruiting staff have some idea.

I wonder if they've shown any interest in Brown? Package with a pick? Use the pick we get for Brown?

Dont need Brown, just got Chaplin. Pick 7/8 would be a minimum. I'd be comfortable with a trade for Conca, so long as its respectable. If he is the collateral damage for keeping hold of others, then l'd live with it. But pick7/8 wouldnt be enough.

 

[dajesmac]

Why would richmond accept less for him then they paid when his performances have only increased his value?

I'd prefer a player anyway that's shown he can play at this level, draft pick are so overvalued and GWS are proving that with pick 1 this year.

He was pick 6. The offer would be 7/8. It's not like it's massive unders.

I'd be very surprised if there was another player involved. In fact I'd be gutted.

 

[groga]

hopefully he likes the offer enough to demand a trade to west coast and we can bend the tiges over a barrel

Yep, same as the Saints will try to do to us.

 

[groga]

Id do gaff for conca, conca was a number 6 pick and is a known quantity in what he brings to the table, is that necessarily better than taking an untried kid? could be macdougall 2.0 if we get it wrong

I prefer Gaff personally.

 

[Noctorniquet]

He was pick 6. The offer would be 7/8. It's not like it's massive unders.

I'd be very surprised if there was another player involved. In fact I'd be gutted.

agree dont think he is worth an early pick plus player, one or the other otherwise its overs

 

[Calcium Man]

He was pick 6. The offer would be 7/8. It's not like it's massive unders.

I'd be very surprised if there was another player involved. In fact I'd be gutted.

But it really is, unfortunately draft picks are way overvalued. Really a guy you know who is going to perform at AFL level (had 9 clearances on the weekend) vs a reasonably unknown quantity. Its entirely possible we get a Polec, Sheppered, Tambling, Palmer, Moore, Melksham at pick 7 or 8 as it is we get a Heppell, Conca, Wingard ect... I'd back in our recruiting department as we havent missed a first pick since JON in 05 but it still far greater risk then the known quantity of Conca.

 

[Monocle]

We will have pick 7 or 8 this year in the draft.
I rate the players available at that pick this year as better talent than Conca.
This is a very strong midfielder's draft, there is genuine class there and players that cover
our deficiencies, we need to use our first pick.

Very much agree with RE on this one. Our first pick should get us one of Sheed, Billings, Lennon or Bontempelli would prefer we use the pick rather than trading it for Conca.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Lycett and you're first pick but i doubt you would want that either. Otherwise it would be a guy like Gaff, Shuey or Selwood but i'm sure that wouldn't be you're preference but i think it ends up just being a trade where both sides end up exactly where they are but with two guys now in their home state.

Lycett is worth a top ten pick himself, he's the best young developing ruck in the league.
He's playing great footy in the wafl and is learning from the two best rucks in the league.
He is Cox's replacement in two years.

 

[Shupe]

Lycett and you're first pick but i doubt you would want that either. Otherwise it would be a guy like Gaff, Shuey or Selwood but i'm sure that wouldn't be you're preference but i think it ends up just being a trade where both sides end up exactly where they are but with two guys now in their home state.

No worries, Adam Selwood for Reece Conca .

If the Eagles think Gaff is ever a flight risk, I'd do the trade in an instant. I think Lycett and our first pick (7-8) is a bit much.

 

[Calcium Man]

Lycett is worth a top ten pick himself, he's the best young developing ruck in the league.
He's playing great footy in the wafl and is learning from the two best rucks in the league.
He is Cox's replacement in two years.

No worries, Adam Selwood for Reece Conca .

If the Eagles think Gaff is ever a flight risk, I'd do the trade in an instant. I think Lycett and our first pick (7-8) is a bit much.

Will just give you our first pick to keep Adam

I did say you wouldnt want it. But Caddy traded for a 1st round compo (used until 2014) and a 3rd rounder. Its hard to judge the value of a compo pick but its at least equal of what Caddy was worth when he was picked in 2010. He was desperate to return to victoria and showed nothing. You would think Conca who isnt sure he want's to come home (which includes the incentive of a decent pay rise apparently) and way out performed Caddy would be worth more.

 

[dajesmac]

If Conca was as good a player as Gaff, Shuey or Selwood I'd be happy to trade away our first rounder + player.

 

[twce13]

Would not trade gaff for conca. Gaff is a gun , he has copped hard tags all year and conca has not had this attention in a very strong midfield, a less assuming role. And gaff's first two years were much more impressive then concas.

As for trade comparisons, they are not a good measure as different drafts have different levels of strength and depth. If conca wanted to leave richmond would take (or at the very least consider)pick 7-8. But I don't think either club really benefits all that much from such a scenario. Teams who deliver in the first two rounds of the draft are the teams who will be in the best position for years to come, in both team strength and depth to make deals with.

The talent is there this year in the draft.

 

[yakka man]

Risky proposition if true. Conca has shown the goods, but not enough to be offered a big $$$$$ contract yet IMO.

But he will most likely outperform any 18 year old mid available at your first pick. But you guys wouldn't want to part with much more than your first pick, especially if Mitch Brown leaves and Glass retires.

I suppose you need midfielders more than Harry Taylor though, and you are still in Premiership mode.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

To do that we are going to have give up a player like Emac, Nic Nat, and Darling. They want key position players and i can see them wanting a defender like EMAC in the backline and Ruckman like Nic Nat and forward like Darling to compliment their forward line of Cameron, Patton and possibly Buddy.

I would say NicNat and Darling are definitely not tradable for that pick. Emac, I love the guy to bits but would offloading him for the number 1 pick and possibly a Coniglio if you included Rosa be that bad? I mean you do have to give up some players for quality. This is assuming Glass plays on and GWS demands Emac over Brown and then we keep Brown.