Do Collingwood need to enter a rebuild phase?

[Tasmanian saint]

Now if I just change that to Tom De Koning it sounds just about the same. Didn't give up draft capital (this year) but who knows how much that choice is gonna backfire on the Sainters if they can't afford their young stars in a couple of years cos good old Tom is the highest paid ruckman in the league?

Then again, not up to me to go questioning why another club organises its list development the way it chooses to???

If we were trading first draft capital for tdk than I would absolutely agree with you, but we used banked salary cap that had to be used or lost , nothing like Collingwood

 

[Tasmanian saint]

I think they put the feelers out to see if there was much interest especially for what I assume they’d want for him. I think there was luke warm interest and I don’t think he was keen to move. Doubtful he’d get anywhere near the compo Trac got.

They would have got a first rounder for him from somewhere,

 

[The Kings Ransom]

The best 25 or so is still decent for season 2026.


But what's currently on the list beyond here?
Not much.
Hopefully no injuries for the Pies..

 

[Judd2Sewell]

The Houston trade was a strange move for me gave up draft capital , for a player that’s good but is never going to be that much of a difference maker. Should have really just went to the draft

At the time of the trade, they had believed that McGuane was going to be a top 10 pick in this draft.

 

[markm106]

They would have got a first rounder for him from somewhere,

Yeah possibly. But there’s firsts and there’s firsts.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Yeah possibly. But there’s firsts and there’s firsts.

Either way it would have been a decent return for a player that’s going to struggle to get on the park for the rest of his career and looking like his best is behind him

 

[Mr Meow]

All true. But that will change next year. I expect Perryman, J Daicos, DeGoey and McCreey to get much more mid time then Pendles and Sidebottom next year. The form of Crisp will dictate his centre square attence time. Hopefully someone like Anderson can break into the team as well. But that is pure speculation at this point.

Which makes it an unknown. From my perspective Collingwood's "contending" level in 2025 was when the 3 veterans I mentioned were heavily involved around stoppages (especially Pendlebury and Sidebottom) and in great form. Long did have a solid cameo and JDG added something late in the season, but the Pendlebury-Sidebottom-Crisp axis in and around midfield areas remained crucial.

There was a big gap between Long's best and worst in 2025. Next year you need close to his best. Josh Daicos has to spend a lot more time in the middle. Then someone like McReery has to take a step up as a close to permanent midfielder.

 

[nineteen eighty]

Yeah possibly. But there’s firsts and there’s firsts.

Sshhh...don't let on to Hawthorn and Geelong.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

You pretty much traded out of one of the strongest drafts in years , you
could have brought in some decent talent at those picks, if you were trading for a key forward or a gun mid I could understand . I agree Houston is a good player but his not a difference maker

You mean last year's draft? We traded out pick 35 from that draft to get Houston. I think you are thinking about the pick 13/14 we gave up for Schultz (also that draft).

 

[blueiris]

NO real depth and a mass exit coming looking to try to poach players will it be enough to keep them in the competition for top 4

 

[Fadge]

Old mate Robertio suggests I'm 'TriGGeReD' by this thread by virtue of my posting in it....

So for those predicting an inevitable massive cliff for Collingwood, tell us all about it....

When does it start, how long does it go for, and how bad does it get?

Let's go.

 

[Robertio]

Old mate Robertio suggests I'm 'TriGGeReD' by this thread by virtue of my posting in it....

So for those predicting an inevitable massive cliff for Collingwood, tell us all about it....

When does it start, how long does it go for, and how bad does it get?

Let's go.

Triggered for sure lol.

 

[Worm4]

Old mate Robertio suggests I'm 'TriGGeReD' by this thread by virtue of my posting in it....

So for those predicting an inevitable massive cliff for Collingwood, tell us all about it....

When does it start, how long does it go for, and how bad does it get?

Let's go.

Tagging posters ? Obsessed much

 

[Hamingja]

Geelong have drafted much more important components of its current side over the past 6 seasons. Take out FS and Collingwood haven't drafted a hell of a lot of quality over the same period.

People can say that our pick 15 and pick 30 are junk picks, a Richmond supporter is chirping off about it above, but you still need those sort of picks to build the skeleton of your side.

The big difference between Geelong's list currently and the Pies list is that we have been investing in structural players via the draft.

It is not like a stork is delivering DeKoning, O'Sullivan, Neale. They are not popping up from nowhere. They are all first or second round picks that the Pies have been trading for Houston and Schultz.

Yeah you can recruit smart / get lucky and pick up the odd Dempsey or a slow burn like a Zac Guthrie but you can't pick up the spine of your side like that.

 

[doppleganger]

There was a big gap between Long's best and worst in 2025. Next year you need close to his best. Josh Daicos has to spend a lot more time in the middle. Then someone like McReery has to take a step up as a close to permanent midfielder.

Agree with this.

Long and Nic the main stoppage duo, they already were in 2025. If Long can find consistency and reduce TO he will be a very solid stoppage player.

Be good to push Josh further up the ground, use Houston as the attacking HB player. McReery to be used in more CBAs as he has power and burst speed.

The veterans can obviously still play a role for 2026, but we can move them around and have them more as complementary types instead of the prime movers.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Interesting conversation.

The last time we had THE best list was 2010 and it wasn't for an Eddie failure plan would've at least one more flag.

Yet since that time we've missed 4 finals and played finals every other year and what 3 GFs? How man more prelims?

That's not a bad return for a club that rarely has an eye catching list.

We continue to squeeze the best out of what we got, and come up with game systems that defy. The flag year was testament to that.

Only a moron would suggest we had the best list that year, lucky to be top 4 list wise yet a flag and 3 GF's to show for a 'shitty' list. This was said last time at the end of 21 btw.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

Will be interesting as attracting players will become harder when their list isn’t as strong. Also trying to get top in talent during Tasmania’s list build will be difficult.

Also odd those dismissing Pendlebury Howe and Sidebottoms importance in the team all 3 still clearly in the top ten most valuable.

 

[Fadge]

Also odd those dismissing Pendlebury Howe and Sidebottoms importance in the team all 3 still clearly in the top ten most valuable.

And this is why I don't understand the point of this while discussion.

Many are saying we're carrying Pendlebury to the games record, and our best 23 are too old.

Should we keep 3 of our 10 most valuable players to the team on our list, or not?

 

[Mynamesinuse]

And this is why I don't understand the point of this while discussion.

Many are saying we're carrying Pendlebury to the games record, and our best 23 are too old.

Should we keep 3 of our 10 most valuable players to the team on our list, or not?

The issue is there’s next to nothing out of the team.
These guys should be impact players and playing 15 games last year but they can’t.
Those thinking Long is the future are in for a shock.

 

[Fadge]

The issue is there’s next to nothing out of the team.
These guys should be impact players and playing 15 games last year but they can’t.
Those thinking Long is the future are in for a shock.

If they're still 3 of our 10 most valuable players, why would we only play them for 15 games each, and risk missing top 4?

 

[Mynamesinuse]

If they're still 3 of our 10 most valuable players, why would we only play them for 15 games each, and risk missing top 4?

That’s the issue they’re still so important due to no one coming in.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

The best 25 or so is still decent for season 2026.


But what's currently on the list beyond here?
Not much.

Worst list of under 25’s in the comp, by a big margin too.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

Worst list of under 25’s in the comp, by a big margin too.

That’s the big issue. Can’t see free agents queuing up to get to Collingwood for a while either.

 

[Mick F]

I think they put the feelers out to see if there was much interest especially for what I assume they’d want for him. I think there was luke warm interest and I don’t think he was keen to move. Doubtful he’d get anywhere near the compo Trac got.

Very much so.

Either way it would have been a decent return for a player that’s going to struggle to get on the park for the rest of his career and looking like his best is behind him

You thought gaining him for St Kilda’s first pick would have been a bargain?

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Very much so.

You thought gaining him for St Kilda’s first pick would have been a bargain?

No not the type of player we needed Flanders fills a much bigger need, but if Collingwood were actually serious about trading him there absolutely would have been takers