Do Collingwood need to enter a rebuild phase?

[HeathySure]

One area where Nick is individually outstanding is appealing for free kicks.

Will Ashcroft 2025 Frees For 34 Frees Against 12..
Nick Daicos 2025 Frees For 42 Frees Agianst 35...

Thats a massive difference ... why ?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

One area where Nick is individually outstanding is appealing for free kicks.

So were guys like Ablett snr, Leigh Matthews and Carey

Esteemed company

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Will Ashcroft 2025 Frees For 34 Frees Against 12..
Nick Daicos 2025 Frees For 42 Frees Agianst 35...

Thats a massive difference ... why ?

Career totals:

Will 69ff 19fa
Levi 28ff 4fa
Daics 136ff 102fa

Are the Ashcrofts the fairest brothers in history?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

For the sake of the debate, let's accept this contention is true.
Does it then mean Pies can't win the flag?

I’d say it’s unlikely they can win the flag on late 2025 form and the potential for improvement in their list(which is why the lack of under 25’s matter) is a big part of this.

 

[Fadge]

For those too scared to answer my earlier question about top 5 finishes in major awards since 2023, here is the answer:
9 - Daicos.
6 - Bontempelli.
Has anyone else had more than 3?

That is why Daicos is clearly #1, and Bont clearly #2 in that timeframe.

 

[Fadge]

He wins sfa of them. Generally comes 2nd or 3rd. Consistent - yes. Individually outstanding - not so much

I mean, he has won two of them in that timeframe.

Has anyone won more than 2 in the same timeframe?

2 - Daicos
2 - Bont
1 - Butters
1 - Neale
1 - Cripps
1 - Anderson
1 - Rowell
1 - Smith

 

[Carringbush2010]

Collingwood have the worst under 25 talent in the league.

We don't know that yet.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I’d say it’s unlikely they can win the flag on late 2025 form and the potential for improvement in their list(which is why the lack of under 25’s matter) is a big part of this.

• This assumes the Pies late 2025 was its best, it wasn't.
• It also assumes that the under 25s are going to guaranteed to be duds, that's an unknown.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

We don't know that yet.

We’d know that.

Who has worse?

 

[Mynamesinuse]

We’d know that.

Who has worse?

A look at a history of their drafting over the last ten years is enough evidence.

 

[Robroy22]

A look at a history of their drafting over the last ten years is enough evidence.

Sometimes I just don't know how we survive............or play finals

 

[Carringbush2010]

We’d know that.

Who has worse?

How do you know that?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Sometimes I just don't know how we survive............or play finals

Or win flags.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

Sometimes I just don't know how we survive............or play finals

Father sons x 3
Academy pick
Free agency while contending

 

[Robroy22]

Father sons x 3
Academy pick
Free agency while contending

More coming

 

[THE_GUN]

Why do you keep talking about WCE in a thread about Collingwood?

Desperate for attention?

Just find it difficult to understand a supporter that thinks his 1 win a season team is going to be better than the pies even after 4 years in a rebuild. Its pretty funny to see an eagles supporter giving negative opinions on the pies but so upbeat about the team that could only manage 1 win and selected the pies reject player.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

• This assumes the Pies late 2025 was its best, it wasn't.
• It also assumes that the under 25s are going to guaranteed to be duds, that's an unknown.

Here’s what Joe Public thinks.

Betting market not overly bullish about a preliminary finalist in the Pies with them at $15 and 7 sides ahead of them at this stage

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

How do you know that?

You’ve got almost none with any exposed form other than Daicos and Long(who’s likely peaked).
Nick is your sole top 10 pick under the age of 25 on your list.
Of all the under 25’s on your list taken in the National draft, they average out at Pick 37 because of how many are 3rd and 4th rounders.


Tell me who has a worse group of under 25’s to take their team forward?

 

[Mynamesinuse]

More coming

Tom Maguanne?