Do I dare?.... Murphy vs. Pendlebury

[Gouldy]

I've never seen these two compared before so I thought id bring it up.

But seriously, as a Carlton supporter I've been watching quite closely our young talent moving forward, including Marc Murphy and being someone who is relatively unbiased, I am willing to admit that Pendlebury has been better than Murphy, those who can't see that are not worth listening to.

But, during the past few weeks, Murphy has increased his work rate ten fold, he's really doing the hard stuff, the one percenters and his kicking has developed well in the past few weeks. I believe he was the player who got us over the line against Port (him and Kruezer). Enough about Carlton.

I know Pendlebury has been injured and apart from the fact that he is very smart for his age as a footballer, that he gets a lot of the pill and that he is a class act, i dont know a lot about Pendlebury.

Just want to know how you people compare these two, in all facets.

Keep your opinions within reason and dont just say Murphy or Pendlebury bcus you barrack for either team.

Id like to keep this thread off bay 13 for at least 50 posts

 

[frantelle]

takes a lot of guts to say all that

i havent watched a lot of carlton this year but pendlebury just has this incredible awareness and seems to get through heavy traffic with ease. i dont know how he does it

both will be very good players for many years

 

[TwisTz]

Pendles has better skills and is ahead at the moment for 2008.

In saying that I think Murphy is a gun and will only get better.

 

[didak04]

I believe Pendlebury is marginally better thus far but Murphy has gone ahead in leaps and bounds this year and will overtake him soon enough.

 

[alfiiee]

if i could get one person from carlton it would be him (besides fev),, love him as a player and will one day be a champion of the game.

Pendles probably has a lot more of the ball and a better player atm skill wise etc but both are young and look foward to seeing them grow as time goes on.

 

[Ron]

If Murphy had Pendlebury's disposal skills he would be a gun.
No doubt his disposal is improving, but it can still be pretty woeful at times.

 

[Lupton Warchild Pittman]

A Dime a dozen 5 10' plodder V a 6 3 midfielder/come forward. Simple comparison.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

All I know is, thank God Murphy chose not to go to Fitzroy under the father-son rule. We got Pendlebury and Thomas out of that decision.

 

[hellfire]

Good objective OP.

Murphy is probably the better in-and-under, but Pendlebury definately has the better skills. Both can kick goals, but Pendlebury can play as a key forward given his size and overhead marking. The thing that sets them apart for me is the evasiveness and time in congestion, which is an invaluable asset, and is unbelievably creative - but goes unnoticed because of how easy players like Black, Dal Santo and Pendlebury make it look.

Pendlebury for me, not by a large margin, Murphy will be a star too.

 

[walkers a legend]

Murphy has been very impressive thus far and gets alot of kicks (2nd in the comp i think) so as he develops great skills over time (kicking mainly) he will be so much more damaging and one of the best mids in the game imo.


But at this point Pendles just.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

a woeful attempt to suck the the substance out of this thread...

Simplistic and insulting, but probably true. A good skilled goalkicking 6 ft 3 midfielder is much harder to find than a midsized midpaced player with only reasonable skills.

 

[walkers a legend]

Simplistic and insulting, but probably true. A good skilled goalkicking 6 ft 3 midfielder is much harder to find than a midsized midpaced player with only reasonable skills.

But Murphy is a natural footballer and was made to play this game which makes up for not being a genetic freak.

 

[Masten2McKinley]

I think Murphy will be the better player at the end of 2019 but in 2008 pendles has it for me

 

[hellfire]

Simplistic and insulting, but probably true. A good skilled goalkicking 6 ft 3 midfielder is much harder to find than a midsized midpaced player with only reasonable skills.

I agree with that (in terms of which is more rare), but it's obvious that Murphy is extremely talented, and is more than a "plodder". Going to be a star for sure.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

But Murphy is a natural footballer and was made to play this game which makes up for not being a genetic freak.

I'm sure thats what Freo said about Haselby when they took him at pick one, too.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I agree with that (in terms of which is more rare), but it's obvious that Murphy is extremely talented, and is more than a "plodder". Going to be a star for sure.

Definitely not a plodder.

 

[The Dr]

If you had've asked this question at the start of the year, I would've laughed. Pendles is brilliant, silky smooth with great disposal while I thought Murph was a bit of a plodder with average skills.

But,

This year Murph has narrowed the gap. He has really impressed me and looks to be rising fast, while Pendles has probably plateaud a bit (a few injuries haven't helped)

But all up, I'd still take Pendles and reckon he will be a genuine star in a couple of years (if he isn't already)!

 

[Thommo 42]

I'm sure thats what Freo said about Haselby when they took him at pick one, too.

you mean when they took him at Pick 2 after we took Fraser at Pick 1?

As for the question.

I'm calling it even, but they are completely different players.

Murphy is an absolute hard nut with above average disposal, who wins alot of footy and also works strongly off the ball to provide opportunity for teammates.

Pendles is a freak in regards to awareness, some might call him soft but he simply avoids collision unless its neccessary to win the footy. He has elite disposal and vision and takes strong marks overhead. He needs to do more off the ball, but I understand the issue here is probably that the gameplan is for teammates to do the blocking so Pendlebury can get it, so its catch 22.

Murphy bursts through traffic, Pendles stops traffic.

 

[pansies]

For mine Pendlebury needs to look further up the field. He too often has little dinky kicks over the top. Yes I understand that he hits the target more often than not but sometimes he needs to take a bit more of a risk and he could be even more damaging. Having said that Robert Harvey is king of the 20m short kick and he seems to have done alright. I guess with collingwood missing someone like rusling there really isn't someone on the quick lead to aim for.

 

[Gouldy]

For mine Pendlebury needs to look further up the field. He too often has little dinky kicks over the top. Yes I understand that he hits the target more often than not but sometimes he needs to take a bit more of a risk and he could be even more damaging. Having said that Robert Harvey is king of the 20m short kick and he seems to have done alright. I guess with collingwood missing someone like rusling there really isn't someone on the quick lead to aim for.

didak, thomas, medhurst, davis?

 

[Silvagnis]

All I know is, thank God Murphy chose not to go to Fitzroy under the father-son rule. We got Pendlebury and Thomas out of that decision.

You may have ended up with both anyway.

I'm not sure Carlton we were interested in Thomas or Pendlebury at pick one, but the best available tall forward.

A good skilled goalkicking 6 ft 3 midfielder is much harder to find than a midsized midpaced player with only reasonable skills.

You'd rather have a Dal Santo than a Bartel?

Murphy has kicked just as many goals as Pendlebury this year.

Murphy's hardness at the ball, hard running and ability to win the ball will take him to the elite level quicker.

Pendlebury might win an AA guernsey like Dal Santo, but he gets a lot of his kicks wider than Murphy and doesn't bring the ball straight up the guts like Murphy with hard running.

I don't consider it a case of Murphy having to catch Pendlebury when one has played good football over three seasons.

Pendlebury is evasive in traffic, but he still needs to learn a thing or two about the defensive side of the game and stop ball watching.

Murphy is a born footballer with his genetics.

 

[btdg]

Since this thread is repeated on just about a weekly basis, I think its only fair to rate them entirely on their performances last week.

Murphy was best on ground last week in a win against last-year's grand finalist. Pendlebury didn't get a touch, despite playing against Melbourne, who are rubbish. Therefore, Murphy is a vastly superior player.

We can do this again next week, too. See you then!

 

[jako27]

when playing west coast im more worried when pendles has the ball in hand than murphy

 

[HFF]

Since this thread is repeated on just about a weekly basis, I think its only fair to rate them entirely on their performances last week.

Murphy was best on ground last week in a win against last-year's grand finalist. Pendlebury didn't get a touch, despite playing against Melbourne, who are rubbish. Therefore, Murphy is a vastly superior player.

We can do this again next week, too. See you then!

Can't argue with that.

 

[Gouldy]

Since this thread is repeated on just about a weekly basis, I think its only fair to rate them entirely on their performances last week.

Murphy was best on ground last week in a win against last-year's grand finalist. Pendlebury didn't get a touch, despite playing against Melbourne, who are rubbish. Therefore, Murphy is a vastly superior player.

We can do this again next week, too. See you then!

ur attempt to make a fool out of me as the OP has only been over shadowed by your amazing ability to make a fool out of yourself. my god... what a tool u will feel like when u re-read ur post...