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That's not really a rationale.
I don't see another player more deserving of pick 5. Scrimshaw and Brodie have even more question marks. Same goes with SPS.
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Prediction DRAFT POLL_PICK #5_V2
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That's not really a rationale.
I don't see another player more deserving of pick 5. Scrimshaw and Brodie have even more question marks. Same goes with SPS.
Who are the other prospects that you believe will be available, and in what order ?
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Anisworth (if available)
SPS would be a great fit for us.
Scrimshaw (if we reach for anyone it should be this kid)
Absolutely all in the mix. I would suggest Taranto would be considered all with those 3
No matter who is selected, they will be talented
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I'm gonna need a guarantee with that, Arrowman......
What has Taranto done that makes him so deserving of pick 5 ? For a player who will be playing as a half forward/mid, field kicking just not good enough IMO.
With pick 5 I'd like a player with elite kicking skills
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take that
Toddski
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Arguably the most dominant player in the TAC cup by end of year. Stood up and in the best for the three biggest games of the year?
What more could he do? lol
Kicking is not poor either.
I was worried with all the talk of us trading pick 5, just kept thinking we still haven't learnt.
It's all good though, SOS has shown he knows what's going on and he will bring in an elite talent with pick 5.
Can't miss really
Glad you asked.
Taranto had his first preseason this year after deciding to make AFL his priority, being a talented basketballer. So he would have a higher ceiling than most.
For a guy that spent 50/50 time forward/midfield, the indicators below are impressive.
I agree SPS and Scimshaw are beautiful by foot, but if you are considering Ainsworth, Taranto's disposal is of a similar nature. I am not worried about Ainsworth or Taranto's kicking, as their techniques are solid.
- Great overhead mark
- Ability to find time and space in possession
- Versatile
- High tackle numbers
- Great engine, beep tested in the 15's earlier in the year
- TAC Cup - Top 6 in contested possessions
So I would be happy with either SPS, Taranto, Ainsworth or Scrimshaw, they would be all in the conversation at pick 5
For me, it is between SPS & Taranto(Preference)
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Think many of the criticisms presented so far are merely mountains made out of molehills tbh. Guess my first rule on bidding is don't bid if you're not prepared to buy. Quite happy for SOS to bid on both Setterfield & Bowes given that I don't think we owe GWS any "gentlemen's agreements" after how much we paid for Marchbank.
Brodie is probably the safest bet in terms of getting a player who'll be ready to go Round 1. Hasn't mattered which level of footy he's played this year his performance, in terms of possession quotas and quality (DE%), has remained extremely consistent. Doubt that there'd be too many other players who have nominated for this years ND that averaged 20 possessions or more per match could make that claim. Don't think his disposal is as haphazard as many have previously suggested and the other thing he provides is pace, which is something else we lack. The only area he really needs to improve on is his spread which will allow him to become more involved in chains of play and take him from a 20 possession a game player to 35. His natural speed and some astute development coaching, which is something our club has a history of being very poor at, should see that come to fruition.
Of all the draftees likely to be available at Pick 5 I think Taranto is the one most likely to achieve his absolute potential. Why??? Here's a quote from his coach at the Sandy Dragons which was published in Inside Football's Guide to the Draft, "Like Andy McGrath & Will Setterfield, he's quite considered about his game - there is a structure. They have their rehab, their training plan and they work on all areas of their game on and off the field. They consistently perform in big moments. He is amazing over his head for his size. He knocks up getting the footy, but most people don't realise is his one percenters. He gets the high 20s in touches, but he would also lead our tackle count or shepherd marks, shepherd spoils. We set our groups a target of 8 of those acts and he averaged 14. I don't think he realises how good he is." I don't think it was just a rich vein of form we saw from Taranto at the end of the season, but reward from the culmination of a lot of hard work and planning. Not only can he play inside and outside, but he's also already got a tank and established a defensive side to his game. Yeah sure he may need to tidy up his kicking slightly, but given that he kicks plenty of goals and still boasts an overall DE of almost 70% would indicate that it's no where near as shabby as some here would suggest. Second & third efforts are there and he continues work after disposing of the ball to become a target further down the ground or within the chain of play. Everything about him suggests he goes about his footy as a professional and he already has elite habits before he enters an elite club environment. Reckon he'll absolutely thrive upon the challenges that AFL level footy will present him with and I'd really find it very hard to make an excuse not to take him if he's still available at Pick 5.
Glad SOS has to make the call between these two and not me. I personally like Taranto, but given where our list is at I could also understand if SOS took Brodie instead.
Brodie is probably the safest bet in terms of getting a player who'll be ready to go Round 1. Hasn't mattered which level of footy he's played this year his performance, in terms of possession quotas and quality (DE%), has remained extremely consistent. Doubt that there'd be too many other players who have nominated for this years ND that averaged 20 possessions or more per match could make that claim. Don't think his disposal is as haphazard as many have previously suggested and the other thing he provides is pace, which is something else we lack. The only area he really needs to improve on is his spread which will allow him to become more involved in chains of play and take him from a 20 possession a game player to 35. His natural speed and some astute development coaching, which is something our club has a history of being very poor at, should see that come to fruition.
Of all the draftees likely to be available at Pick 5 I think Taranto is the one most likely to achieve his absolute potential. Why??? Here's a quote from his coach at the Sandy Dragons which was published in Inside Football's Guide to the Draft, "Like Andy McGrath & Will Setterfield, he's quite considered about his game - there is a structure. They have their rehab, their training plan and they work on all areas of their game on and off the field. They consistently perform in big moments. He is amazing over his head for his size. He knocks up getting the footy, but most people don't realise is his one percenters. He gets the high 20s in touches, but he would also lead our tackle count or shepherd marks, shepherd spoils. We set our groups a target of 8 of those acts and he averaged 14. I don't think he realises how good he is." I don't think it was just a rich vein of form we saw from Taranto at the end of the season, but reward from the culmination of a lot of hard work and planning. Not only can he play inside and outside, but he's also already got a tank and established a defensive side to his game. Yeah sure he may need to tidy up his kicking slightly, but given that he kicks plenty of goals and still boasts an overall DE of almost 70% would indicate that it's no where near as shabby as some here would suggest. Second & third efforts are there and he continues work after disposing of the ball to become a target further down the ground or within the chain of play. Everything about him suggests he goes about his footy as a professional and he already has elite habits before he enters an elite club environment. Reckon he'll absolutely thrive upon the challenges that AFL level footy will present him with and I'd really find it very hard to make an excuse not to take him if he's still available at Pick 5.
Glad SOS has to make the call between these two and not me. I personally like Taranto, but given where our list is at I could also understand if SOS took Brodie instead.
I'll admit that he did have some big games towards the end of year, although he was playing in a team that was dominating.
Don't know how you can have Taranto in the best 3 players in the TAC cup GF, didn't he kick 0.4
If you can't admit that Taranto field kicking is poor, then I fear that you are just blind to his faults
He gets way to much hang time on his passes, ball doesn't travel quickly through the air and often kicks floaters or balls that don't spin right.
One part of Taranto's game that I rate very highly is his tackling ability, he can really tackleGlad you asked.
Taranto had his first preseason this year after deciding to make AFL his priority, being a talented basketballer. So he would have a higher ceiling than most.
For a guy that spent 50/50 time forward/midfield, the indicators below are impressive.
I agree SPS and Scimshaw are beautiful by foot, but if you are considering Ainsworth, Taranto's disposal is of a similar nature. I am not worried about Ainsworth or Taranto's kicking, as their techniques are solid.
- Great overhead mark
- Ability to find time and space in possession
- Versatile
- High tackle numbers
- Great engine, beep tested in the 15's earlier in the year
- TAC Cup - 3rd in contested possessions
So I would be happy with either SPS, Taranto, Ainsworth or Scrimshaw, they would be all in the conversation at pick 5
For me, it is between SPS & Taranto(Preference)
It was actually 0.3 in the GF. The week before that it was 4.1. Game against VIC Country it was 3 straight. Sure some of the current AFL stars have bad days by foot.
As for hang time on his passes, the game has changed, with all the zoning, passes have to be more measured. Having said that, sure you will find more than enough footage that indicates he can drill a pass if needed
Only one part? I take it that contested possessions and marks are not elite?
Don't be concerned with what he doesn't do well (which isn't much when comparing him to others in this draft pool). Watch all the things he does well
Anyway, as I have stated previously, not concerned with this pick, as we will recruit a very good footballer
You are right. These days particularly when kicking inside 50, passes need to be centremeter perfect.
Taranto has a bad habit of over cooking passes to players on the lead, that's a big No No.
Then you have a player like SPS who's precision kicking would cut teams to pieces and he can win his own footy.
Players with elite kicking skills and contested ball winning ability are very rare talents, IMO these are the types we need to bring in around Cripps.
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I know Taranto was 5th for contested ball in TAC cup this year, but I don't really see him as a inside beast at AFL level. Think he will be more a half forward that can go through the midfield.
When I have seen him start in the middle he doesn't read the tap all that well and can be a little fumbly in close.
If we take him, we take him, you are right he does have some very good attributes and no doubt all these flaws that I'm seeing will be fixed by round 1 2017
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Taranto doesn't panic and is always on the look-out for better options. i.e. He's a smart footballer.
That alone will have Bolton put a big tick next to his name.
He's far from perfect but has many good qualities to build upon.
Bit of a cross between Zaharakis & Sidebottom for me, although a better mark and tackler.
That alone will have Bolton put a big tick next to his name.
He's far from perfect but has many good qualities to build upon.
Bit of a cross between Zaharakis & Sidebottom for me, although a better mark and tackler.
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He wants to play in Melbourne.
He wants to play in Melbourne.
It's now on the record that SPS wants to play his football in Melbourne so all the nervous nellies can rest easy re the go home factor .
He has been living away from home for the best part of 4 years in any case .
We have good info that SPS is our probable selection at pick 5 and I'd be rapt to have such a well rounded mid join the club .
He has been living away from home for the best part of 4 years in any case .
We have good info that SPS is our probable selection at pick 5 and I'd be rapt to have such a well rounded mid join the club .
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