Draft Summary!

[Bockchoy67]

1. You can’t be serious? Even if he went at pick 17 I still would have been frustrated. I do not doubt that he will be a good player, just whether he’ll be here when he reaches his potential.

2. A player with plenty of potential, someone who could be a 150 game player with the Crows is someone who would justify selection 32. Bernie Vince is simply someone who could be a handy player, he will be nothing more. 50 games is the maximum I would expect out of Vince.

3. I will gladly tell you why Rischbeith should have been picked up with pick 32. He is listed at 190cm, and isn’t a KPP what the crows are desperately lacking? He has the athletic ability, and all he needs to do is build up his body and he gain more experience with Sturt. He would have been a much, much better option that Vince.

1. Once again - he was the best avaliable. You always take the best avaliable regardless of where he lives.

2. We weren't the only club to take risks just in case you don't know. Here's just examples:

- Max Bailey by Hawthorn at pick 18
- Jake Edwads by Carlton at pick 36.
- Jay Neagle by Essendon at 39 (F/S)
- Robert Warnock by Fremantle at 42
- Ryan Gamble by Geelong at 47
- Joel Patful by Brisbane at 56
- Matthew Stokes by Geelong at 61
etc

IMO Vince could be something special = he's a smooth mover with great skills and can find the goals. Nice height too. Obviously he could turn out to be bust but the success rate of the draft isn't as high as some may think - particularly in a weak draft you can take risks. I'm glad we took one.

3. Rischbeith isn't a KPP - he's actually 188cm. He's not what we're looking for - plus he's not an onballer. It's not like we need anymore wingers.

 

[Drummond]

so now you're an expert recruiter as well?

What’s with all the attitude on this board? Is everyone on this board always so fierce whenever someone has a differing opinion?

FACT: Rischbeith and Elliot are much better prospects that Vince.

 

[Drummond]

1. Once again - he was the best avaliable. You always take the best avaliable regardless of where he lives.

This is not my opinion, but according to Footy Draft.com, Cleve Hughes was predicted to go at 11, while Douglas was predicted at 22. Best talent selected, maybe not.

2. We weren't the only club to take risks just in case you don't know. Here's just examples:

- Joel Patful by Brisbane at 56
- Matthew Stokes by Geelong at 61

Picks 56 and 61 are shaky picks; most teams will often even pass when it comes to this stage. So why not gamble when using such low picks, I’m pretty sure even Vince would have been available at this time.

3. Rischbeith isn't a KPP - he's actually 188cm. He's not what we're looking for - plus he's not an onballer. It's not like we need anymore wingers.

Tom Rischbieth: 190cm

 

[Crow-mosone]

FACT: Rischbeith and Elliot are much better prospects that Vince.

FACT: you don't know your a*se from your elbow, so on that basis I'm glad we didn't select either.

*still waiting for your jimmy hird explanation?

 

[Drummond]

FACT: you don't know your a*se from your elbow, so on that basis I'm glad we didn't select either.

*still waiting for your jimmy hird explanation?

Great pos mate...

I was not so much just pointing out Hird, just the fact that every team will often pass on a player, yet they still have good careers.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Great pos mate...

I was not so much just pointing out Hird, just the fact that every team will often pass on a player, yet they still have good careers.

ok genius.

the reason Jimmy hird went no.79, was Essendon was the only club that had a scout in the ACT. back then no one else thought it worth while, and so only Essendon had seen him.

Chris Grant & Ashley McIntosh are great examples of champs slipping through. Hird ain't.

 

[Crow-mosone]

This is not my opinion, but according to Footy Draft.com, Cleve Hughes was predicted to go at 11, while Douglas was predicted at 22. Best talent selected, maybe not.

footydraft is a vox populi gossip column, run by a student who was suckered into putting in 100's hrs of time without getting paid. it's not an expert opinion. thought interesting to read at times.

Picks 56 and 61 are shaky picks; most teams will often even pass when it comes to this stage. So why not gamble when using such low picks, I’m pretty sure even Vince would have been available at this time.

you can't say that. if we beleived he'd be available, we'd have taken him later.

Tom Rischbieth: 190cm

and he's a wingmen, what's your point?

 

[Drummond]

you can't say that. if we beleived he'd be available, we'd have taken him later.

What other team would be so stupid to pick a 20 year old with little upside at pick 32, especially when there were other good prospecets available.

and he's a wingmen, what's your point?

You said he was 188cm. Regardless, he is strong overhead and he plays taller that he is. But regardless again, he could eventuate into a wingman or forward and he was one of the best players on offer at this stage, so he still should have been taken.

 

[crowsarethebest]

This is not my opinion, but according to Footy Draft.com, Cleve Hughes was predicted to go at 11, while Douglas was predicted at 22. Best talent selected, maybe not.

Picks 56 and 61 are shaky picks; most teams will often even pass when it comes to this stage. So why not gamble when using such low picks, I’m pretty sure even Vince would have been available at this time.

Tom Rischbieth: 190cm

Yes, footydraft rated Hughes at 11 while Douglas at 22. Footydraft does not = the rankings of players. It was footymans opinion.. DOn't you think that Cleve Hughes was a bit overated? Everybody expected him to go at 11 to the doggies, but ended up at 24. Douglas, don't you think he was "underated". No one really talked about him until 2 weeks away from the draft. I think we did well, good job by our recruiting team.

 

[Crow-mosone]

What other team would be so stupid to pick a 20 year old with little upside at pick 32, especially when there were other good prospecets available.

when one doesn't agree with your informed and expert analysis.

You said he was 188cm. Regardless, he is strong overhead and he plays taller that he is. But regardless again, he could eventuate into a wingman or forward and he was one of the best players on offer at this stage, so he still should have been taken.

actually i didn't. good call.

FACT: no one with a better opinion than yours, i.e. the professionals, agrees with you.

 

[Drummond]

Well we've all made our points. In summary, I think our overall drafting was a disappointment and a missed opportunity.

 

[crowsarethebest]

Well we've all made our points. In summary, I think our overall drafting was a disappointment and a missed opportunity.

Tell us what mad you so "unhappy" and "dissapointed". Just because Douglas is a victorian doesn't meen he will go home after.

 

[Drummond]

Tell us what mad you so "unhappy" and "dissapointed". Just because Douglas is a victorian doesn't meen he will go home after.

Read the thread

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Well we've all made our points. In summary, I think our overall drafting was a disappointment and a missed opportunity.

In summary, most on this board could have predicted before the draft you would be disappointed by AFC's efforts. Reckon you must be the guy who sits behind me 2 rows that whinges about certain AFC players throughout the whole game, even if they are playing well & we are winning comfortably. Time you went & found some positive pills, because you won't get all of us slitting our wrists on your say so.

 

[Drummond]

In summary, most on this board could have predicted before the draft you would be disappointed by AFC's efforts. Reckon you must be the guy who sits behind me 2 rows that whinges about certain AFC players throughout the whole game, even if they are playing well & we are winning comfortably. Time you went & found some positive pills, because you won't get all of us slitting our wrists on your say so.

You seriously don’t get it do you?

Let’s refresh your memory shall we. “Even taking people like Rischbeith and Elliot would have made me satisfied.”

 

[Blind Fred]

Drummond, you have no idea. Douglas is a great get, as is Pfeiffer, while Vince has something special that has obviously impressed people like Fanta, Neil Craig and Allan Stewart. Rischbieth is NOT a KPP. He may get a chance on the rookie list but if you have bothered to watch him play you will quickly see that he is not a natural footballer. Vince is. And forget about bagging the Crows for taking a Victorian at pick 16. There was only one other SA boy perhaps worthy of a first round pick - Hughes - and the jury is still out on him. Douglas CAN play. Let's make him feel welcome ... remember he's probably checking this site out to see how the news has been received.

 

[Crow-mosone]

You seriously don’t get it do you?

Let’s refresh your memory shall we. “Even taking people like Rischbeith and Elliot would have made me satisfied.”

no. let's refresh yours

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4266210&postcount=14

 

[Drummond]

Drummond, you have no idea. Douglas is a great get, as is Pfeiffer, while Vince has something special that has obviously impressed people like Fanta, Neil Craig and Allan Stewart. Rischbieth is NOT a KPP. He may get a chance on the rookie list but if you have bothered to watch him play you will quickly see that he is not a natural footballer. Vince is.

Rischbieth has unlimited potential, while Vince does not. As I said before (does anyone read previous posts?), it doesn't matter what position he plays, he is versatile and could fit into numerous positions.

Let's make him feel welcome ... remember he's probably checking this site out to see how the news has been received.

LOL! Playing the guilty card are we?

 

[Drummond]

no. let's refresh yours

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4266210&postcount=14

Read the thread in its entirety! Far out is that so hard to ask?

 

[Crow-mosone]

Read the thread in its entirety! Far out is that so hard to ask?

you're wrong at post 1, and continued downhill from there.

perhaps you'll tell us why you're right and all the clubs and the recruiting teams are wrong?

 

[Crow-mosone]

Rischbieth has unlimited potential, while Vince does not. As I said before (does anyone read previous posts?), it doesn't matter what position he plays, he is versatile and could fit into numerous positions.

but NOBODY who matters thinks so.

why do think that is?

 

[Drummond]

perhaps you'll tell us why you're right and all the clubs and the recruiting teams are wrong?

Hopeless, absolutely hopeless. I have spent the last few posts telling you to read my previous posts. In these posts I explained my reasons behind what I have said. If you don’t get it by now, you never will. Hopeless.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Hopeless, absolutely hopeless. I have spent the last few posts telling you to read my previous posts. In these posts I explained my reasons behind what I have said. If you don’t get it by now, you never will. Hopeless.

I think you meant to say:

"whoops, you got me. I have NFI. I am unable to rationally provide any insight beyond hysterical moaning - because I am a whingy little bitch. I apologise".

 

[Drummond]

I think you meant to say:

"whoops, you got me. I have NFI. I am unable to rationally provide any insight beyond hysterical moaning - because I am a whingy little bitch. I apologise".

You really are an idiot aren't you? Look at the trash you just posted.

 

[Crow-mosone]

You really are an idiot aren't you? Look at the trash you just posted.

how many people have to tell you same thing before you realise you are completely clueless?

how many, give me a number?