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Recruiting Draft Watch 2020

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Which do you prefer, if you have to choose?

  • Nik Cox

    Votes: 53 77.9%

  • Zach Reid

    Votes: 15 22.1%
  • Total voters
    68
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Old Campaigner said:
Doesn't the No 1 pick get paid more than later draft picks?

It'd be a pisser if they couldn't match the bid because Treloar maxed out their salary cap
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NAB usually provides a $10,000 investment account to the number one pick.
 
Do geelong have dirt on the suns or something, jeez that make awful pick trade decisions. Should’ve waited til draft night and they could’ve have a couple of clubs fighting over that pick if someone slides.
 
Howard Moon said:
you make him sound like the next Sean Darcy
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Wonder if someone is going to sit this boy down.

He's got a lot of tricks but he needs to get fit.
 
I still think clubs are pretty set on who theyre picking in the top 10. Maybe a few mind games. But i think with less access to recruiters and not all being in the same state talking to Twomey who then passes the message onto us as more of a certainty. This year calls can only gather so much information and are less beneficial.

As eth-dog said Fremantle were dead keen into Thilthorpe. A Future 1st for them will be very important for them but they could look to trade 1st + F1 for access to Thilthorpe if available. I still feel Crows are taking him at 1 theyre mentioning every name except him it seems. I think the question mark is around the hawks at 4 and whether theyre going Perkins or Hollands then GC do they consider Hollands who seems happy to move states but i thought Phillips would be aligned with Rowell/Anderson

Id still take him as a big deep key fwd if he somehow slides then consider N.Cox aswell
 
This is our man in 2019:
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Now in 2020:
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Looks a big unit now.

Would love to see him Don the Sash in 2021.

If he doesn't, we'll end up with one of the Fab 5 anyway... WIN/WIN!?!
 
Is going to fill out. Already started with the traps and delts

If we dont get either Perkins or Cox this wont be a pleasant place for a while

And if we do then we cant have ppl complaining about drafting flankers and then not working out

If Perkins, Cox i think ill be taking Powell now as my final pick. Just a proven year and different type. Still think he can be a bulldozing midfielder and has alot more class than whats been stated from what i see

Maybe too much risk having 3 victorians that none weve seen play for the past 15 months
 

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Reading all the bits and pieces I must admit I hope we take Cox. Getting the chance to draft a 199cm pacy elite endurance utility just sounds too tempting to pass up. We also have to acknowledge we have a ton of medium to lower end draft picks making up our KP stocks (particularly after we add another two via NGA this year). Some of them aren't going to be hits. Cox may be just the guy to give us some flexibility for our talls. Plus its more than just that - he could genuinely be elite in his own right.

I'm also very keen on Perkins who I think we will take if available. A quality medium forward with great pace and size at worst and he looks like a pretty realistic chance to develop into the kind of midfielder that we are lacking but will need some time.

Not sure who i'd like for the 3rd pick. Phillips would be ideal as that pure mid type but probably won't reach our pick. There are quite a lot of decent midfielder types around eg Bruhn or Macrae and a number of others. Plus from utilities Henry might be an interesting pick (his strengths seem to be his aerial work which we could use a lot of). Plus there's obviously the taller Reid at 202 cm who could be a star.
 
Can I play devil's advocate for a moment re Cox? And I admit I really like the idea of getting him but is he as much as we are hoping? He is compared to Mark Blicavs, yes a useful footballer but what position is he really? He plays a bit of forward, back and ruck decently without being a genuine gun. Isn't there a risk that Cox is one of those guys that never quite finds the right role eg a Josh Fraser (not tall enough to be ruck but couldnt do anything else) or Jack Watts type that are very athletic but struggled to find a position and really make it.

Isn't Reid the safer bet that you really feel could be FB or CHB for 10+ years? And can we take both Reid and Cox given the NGA boys are also talls and we have untried other talls on our list too? Shouldn't we be taking 2 mids at 6-8 and therefore would we really take Cox and not Reid? Could Cox play 10 years on the wing at 200cm? (and yes his running stats are impressive). I must say I am torn on it because Cox is so different and might be awesome. But, I just wonder if we can afford the luxury of taking him when we have so many needs to fill.
 
citizen-erased said:
O'Driscoll & Maher's range makes it tempted to split our last pick & try get both
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Some seriously under rated picks this year..
wouldn’t be against the idea of taking one of our three top 10’s, two in the early/mid teens and an extra on top of our own in 2021.

That would be best case for me.

6 > Collingwood for future first + second rounder (20 or 21)
7 take it
8 to GWS for 13 + 20

2020 draft picks;
7 Cox or Reid
13 McCrae
20 Maher/Trew/Bruhn

2021 draft picks
Essendon first
Collingwood first

Ideal scenrarikn for mine


Maher has shot to prominence recently, any idea on the type of player he’d become eDPS?


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citizen-erased said:
we could use 7, 8, 9 & 23.
But 44 becomes useless if Brand/Eyre bids don't come (unless we use it to take one of them)
Would mean there is no space for DFA though.

If we pass on Thilthorpe, i'd want 9 & Adel F1 with change going back to them
Adelaide would need to make it very enticing for us to let him slide.
They'd be getting two players in contention for pick 1 this year.
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This is what I was trying to ask last week.

IF we take picks 7, 8, 9, 23 + 44 hypothetically, what happens if someone bids on Brand (matched) and then Eyre (list spots won’t be available?) are we able to match and get him onto the rookie list? Again do we have the list spots on the rookie list available if we’re re commuting to Clarke and Gleeson?


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Yoda_ said:
Maher has shot to prominence recently, any idea on the type of player he’d become @eDPS?
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Similar type to James Rowbottom, strong midfielder with a good burst from stoppages.
 
Ati Tude said:
Can I play devil's advocate for a moment re Cox? And I admit I really like the idea of getting him but is he as much as we are hoping? He is compared to Mark Blicavs, yes a useful footballer but what position is he really? He plays a bit of forward, back and ruck decently without being a genuine gun. Isn't there a risk that Cox is one of those guys that never quite finds the right role eg a Josh Fraser (not tall enough to be ruck but couldnt do anything else) or Jack Watts type that are very athletic but struggled to find a position and really make it.

Isn't Reid the safer bet that you really feel could be FB or CHB for 10+ years? And can we take both Reid and Cox given the NGA boys are also talls and we have untried other talls on our list too? Shouldn't we be taking 2 mids at 6-8 and therefore would we really take Cox and not Reid? Could Cox play 10 years on the wing at 200cm? (and yes his running stats are impressive). I must say I am torn on it because Cox is so different and might be awesome. But, I just wonder if we can afford the luxury of taking him when we have so many needs to fill.
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Your concerns are a little less important when you have 3 top 10 picks. With 3 top 10 picks, taking the higher risk high reward option is the way to go because we can afford to do that. I wouldn't even call Cox a high risk, but let's say he is a higher risk than Reid.

The way I look at it, a player like Reid can be drafted anywhere. You'll find good FBs with picks in the 60s. While Reid will be a good player, that's what you go for when you have one pick and you need to play it safe. Cox's attributes are rare for a player his height. He really could be anything at AFL level.

If I were to be asked what the best case scenario is (assuming that the 'fab 5' are taken before our pick), I'd go with:

6 - McInnes (so that Collingwood don't match)
7 - Perkins
8 - Cox

I don't see any of those players winning the rising star next year, but all of them have the potential to be top 5 players in the draft.
I see a 195cm inside mid in Reef once he fills out (a rare attribute for a mid), a 200cm tall with elite endurance capable of playing on a wing (again rare) and a 188cm explosive mid that was probably held back by COVID which is in a way lucky for us. I'd say he'd be a top 5 lock if he had the chance of playing meaningful time in the middle this year.

All of them are a little risky, but none of them are too risky. All of them have the attributes to make them successful in the modern game.
 

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Yoda_ said:
This is what I was trying to ask last week.

IF we take picks 7, 8, 9, 23 + 44 hypothetically, what happens if someone bids on Brand (matched) and then Eyre (list spots won’t be available?) are we able to match and get him onto the rookie list? Again do we have the list spots on the rookie list available if we’re re commuting to Clarke and Gleeson?


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correct. we'd be best then either trading 23 & 44 up or trying to move 44 into next years draft.

think our rookie list is full (someone correct me if im wrong)
Fairly sure all we can do is take 6 ND spots, or 5 + DFA or MSD pick.
 
citizen-erased said:
correct. we'd be best then either trading 23 & 44 up or trying to move 44 into next years draft.

think our rookie list is full (someone correct me if im wrong)
Fairly sure all we can do is take 6 ND spots, or 5 + DFA or MSD pick.
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I'd say in that scenario we'd just take Brand or Eyre at pick 44
 
Bipolarbear said:
Reef, Perkins and Thilthorpe would be perfect IMO - slim chances though.
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Agree. Only way i can see Thilthorpe & Perkins being there for us is the Pies moving up for Cox.
At that point, they'd match McInnes.

If we have the confidence in Brand & Zerk as young KPD's;

Top 5 go as expected
6-Perkins
7-Cox

Perkins into top 5
6-Phillips/Thilthorpe
7-Cox

Cox into top 5
6-Phillips/Thilthorpe
7-Perkins

Then split 8 with the Pies for 14 & 16 -> 2 of Poulter, Powell, Maher & O'Driscoll.

Alt. (assuming GWS & Coll are keen to get into the top 10 picks)
6-Perkins, Phillips or Thilthorpe
7 into 13 & 15
8 into 14 & F1
13-Reid
14 & 15 into 2 of Poulter, Powell, Maher & O'Driscoll.
+1 1st rd pick in 2021.
 

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