Recruiting Draft Watch 2020

[eDPS]

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[JayJ20]

Can I ask why people want to keep a pick for a dfa? Is there really anyone that doesn't look likely to get contract at another team currently worth more than a potential 18 year old at pick whatever?

I'd pick up Dunkley (not Josh). Fits a need in the midfield. Comes cheap.

 

[half time raffle]

If we use our 3 top ten picks:
Bid on McInnes (didn't get Dunkley, still need a big mid).
Perkins - speed and power
Cox - to many athletic and skill traits to pass up.

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[Milanista28]

Imagine we took Phillips, Bruhn and Cox.

 

[Jade]

Can I ask why people want to keep a pick for a dfa? Is there really anyone that doesn't look likely to get contract at another team currently worth more than a potential 18 year old at pick whatever?

Let's say you've taken what you want out of the draft.

At that point, you can take a purely speculative pick, or you can just hold the spot open, potentially invite a couple players to train...

 

[eDPS]

 

[Steve94]

Pretty remarkable story. That Eagles team must have had a decent backline with him, Jones and Mansell there.

What do you think our chances of picking up one of say him, Duvall or Mansell late in the draft as a ready made HBF?

 

[nonamehack]

Let's say you've taken what you want out of the draft.

At that point, you can take a purely speculative pick, or you can just hold the spot open, potentially invite a couple players to train...

I understand that. And the we "should" get kyle (I know he somewhat fills a need) to help get Josh. But to me unless there is an exceptional DFA, and I can't see one but to me pick 44 if no NGA bids, will likely have a greater chance of success than x who played 5 games over 3 years on that teams list.

Just didn't know why people were saying 3 picks 2 NGA DFA like it was the foregone conclusion

 

[ant555]

I don't see how the likes of Bruhn, Powell, Macrae give us a point of difference in our midfield. They're all the same type of players as caldwell, parish, Shiel, McGrath and Merrett. Sub 184 players who aren't and never will be big enough to win the inside ball, and even then play the same way. We either need a 187+ extractor, or someone of a similar build but who could be anything (Perkins). That being said someone like Will Phillips would be too good to pass up.

They do not need to be 187cm plus to win inside footy. Cunnington is 185cm. Whoever we pick just has to be a solid build and actually be a midfielder.
I can understand the resistance to Bruhn and Powell. Although both are very good midfielders as you say they are the same as what we have other than Bruhn looks like his skill level is well above anyone we have in the midfield.

 

[Dons4Life]

I

I mean:

• We picked up Caldwell in the trade period, so there's one mid already
• We've got three first rounders, so we can easily take Perkins or another mid with 6
• We'll have rookie spots available so we can get mids in the rookie draft, supplemental selection period, or mid-season draft (or in all three, spots permitting)
• Next year is supposed to be a mid heavy draft and we'll probably have a top ten pick, plus Dunkley might still wanna come and we should be able to get it over the line (finally)
• Plus Cox can play on the wing and we're definitely in need of another winger (Langford's got the other wing locked down imo)

I wouldn't be surprised if we only got one of them, but I'm all in on getting Cox and Reid next week. Perkins, Cox, Reid, and the NGA boys (Brand and Eyre) sounds like a really great draft haul to me.

Im with Zach on this. Taking both is going to tall, especially if we are planning on taking both the nga kids. Easy to say we brought Caldwell in but we also brought in 2MP. That’s potentially adding 5 players close enough to 200cm +. Saying Cox can play on the wing is also pure speculation. The only player who somewhat played on the wing this year at those measurements was Blicavs.
I believe it’s got to be 1 tall, Perkins or a Phillips if he slides and Perkins is gone and another mid also.

 

[Haychh]

Little bit of Isaac Smith

7

Isaac Smith

Age

37

Ht

188cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.4

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.4

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.3

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

19.2

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

7.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

about him which is coincidental considering he was a very similar story as a late bloomer

 

[ant555]

I like it except for the fact we're drafting an undersized inside midfielder that won't help us at all when we already have McGrath, Parish, Shiel and Merrett as well as Caldwell not being huge.

I can't wait for Lachlan Brooks to have a fantastic championships next year and everyone to start bandwagoning for him too

Phillips will not help us at all ?

 

[Steve94]

I

Im with Zach on this. Taking both is going to tall, especially if we are planning on taking both the nga kids. Easy to say we brought Caldwell in but we also brought in 2MP. That’s potentially adding 5 players close enough to 200cm +. Saying Cox can play on the wing is also pure speculation. The only player who somewhat played on the wing this year at those measurements was Blicavs.
I believe it’s got to be 1 tall, Perkins or a Phillips if he slides and Perkins is gone and another mid also.

I'd rather not get Reid (prefer to trade back) but don't think it's the worst result at stages during the year we ran out some very small sides plus Hooker and Hurley are close to the end.

 

[Dons4Life]

As I've told him, I want Draper, Sinn, Andrews and Johnson. All of them

Just give me Sinn

 

[Red Black and Blue]

As I've told him, I want Draper, Sinn, Andrews and Johnson. All of them

None of them give me Horne.

 

[Dons4Life]

Looks bloody good. Looks to have a cracking left leg.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

None of them give me Horne.

Try and beat Adelaide to Horne.

 

[11kgm]

Can we focus on ****ing up this years draft

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Where can I find a non paywalled rendition of the link in this tweet?

 

[Jade]

So complete disclaimer, I know five eights of **** all about judging draft talent, but considering our draft options, I've been having a look and have come up with my own personal draft board as to how I rate the best 20 players. That is, who I'd be drafting, in order, based on what I think are desirable traits if they were available. Unlike others, I'm not a fan of taking picks inside the top 20 based on 'need' - I'd rather draft the best available no matter the position; these players will hopefully have 10 year careers, picking based on what we need tomorrow seems a bit short sighted.

I've colour coded the names too;

Red - Absolutely will not be available at our first pick (or a bid will be matched no matter what)
Orange - Low chance to be available
Blue - Might be available
Green - Will absolutely be available

Jamara Ugle-Haggan
Logan McDonald
Rhiley Thilthorpe
Elijah Hollands
Will Phillips
Denver Grainger-Barass
Braeden Campbell
Lachie Jones
Archie Perkins
Nic Cox
Zach Reid
Tanner Bruhn
Tom Powell
Finlay Macrae
Oliver Henry
Heath Chapman
Reef McInnes
Brayden Cook
Alex Davies
Jack Carroll

Notes:

1. Ugle-Haggan and McDonald are going to be two of the top three picks. The question is, whether or not it's Hollands or Thilthorpe that the Crows ultimately select. They may very well bid on Ugle-Haggan, but I find it difficult to believe they'll take McDonald ahead of Thilthorpe. The interesting part is, if they choose Thilthorpe, there's no way Hollands get to us, however I think it's possible that Thilthorpe slips if they go Hollands. As a result, of the players I think we have some chance of drafting, Thilthorpe is my number 1.

2. Even though I think Thilthorpe is some chance, I still believe that the likeliest scenario is that the six picks above us will constitute the first six on my list. In that case, I'd be bidding on both Campbell and Jones - even though I know neither is a chance to actually land at Essendon. Jones would literally play round one for us, and Campbell is a bloody jet.

3. So assuming I'm right about the first six picks, and the unavailability of the two academy players, we'd find ourselves with the first eight players on my list gone when we take a live pick. I'd take Perkins and Cox, without question. After that however, we could potentially take a Bruhn or Zach Reid - however I'd entertain the idea of trading down in to the teens with Collingwood, giving up what will be pick 9 at that stage and taking next years first from the Pies. We'd still be able to take a Powell, or Macrae, AND we'd have added a future first.

4. I'm hesitant to take BOTH Reid and Cox. Yes I know that contradicts my earlier statement of just take the best player, but with Eyre and Brand also likely coming in, that feels like a massive saturation of talls in one draft. As such, even though I've rated Reid higher than Bruhn, if we can't get a pick swap done and need to take the pick, I'd probably take Bruhn.

Anyways, my 2c, worthless as it is...

 

[Duckworth]

If he fell down to pick 6, would you skip Phillips with all 3 picks?

I'll answer if you don't mind. At those selections, you take the BEST available. No if's, but's or cocoanuts. If Phillips falls you 100% take him.

 

[11kgm]

Rather, a player like Will Phillips would be ideal for the Crows, but draft sources believe Phillips is not in the same category as the aforementioned quartet. Foxfooty.com.au understands the tough Chargers ball magnet has slipped out of top five contention, with Essendon looking more likely to snare him with one of its three top-10 picks.

Guarantee hawks go Cox or Perkins

 

[Haychh]

So complete disclaimer, I know five eights of fu** all about judging draft talent, but considering our draft options, I've been having a look and have come up with my own personal draft board as to how I rate the best 20 players. That is, who I'd be drafting, in order, based on what I think are desirable traits if they were available. Unlike others, I'm not a fan of taking picks inside the top 20 based on 'need' - I'd rather draft the best available no matter the position; these players will hopefully have 10 year careers, picking based on what we need tomorrow seems a bit short sighted.

I've colour coded the names too;

Red - Absolutely will not be available at our first pick (or a bid will be matched no matter what)
Orange - Low chance to be available
Blue - Might be available
Green - Will absolutely be available

Jamara Ugle-Haggan
Logan McDonald
Rhiley Thilthorpe
Elijah Hollands
Will Phillips
Denver Grainger-Barass
Braeden Campbell
Lachie Jones
Archie Perkins
Nic Cox
Zach Reid
Tanner Bruhn
Tom Powell
Finlay Macrae
Oliver Henry
Heath Chapman
Reef McInnes
Brayden Cook
Alex Davies
Jack Carroll

Notes:

1. Ugle-Haggan and McDonald are going to be two of the top three picks. The question is, whether or not it's Hollands or Thilthorpe that the Crows ultimately select. They may very well bid on Ugle-Haggan, but I find it difficult to believe they'll take McDonald ahead of Thilthorpe. The interesting part is, if they choose Thilthorpe, there's no way Hollands get to us, however I think it's possible that Thilthorpe slips if they go Hollands. As a result, of the players I think we have some chance of drafting, Thilthorpe is my number 1.

2. Even though I think Thilthorpe is some chance, I still believe that the likeliest scenario is that the six picks above us will constitute the first six on my list. In that case, I'd be bidding on both Campbell and Jones - even though I know neither is a chance to actually land at Essendon. Jones would literally play round one for us, and Campbell is a bloody jet.

3. So assuming I'm right about the first six picks, and the unavailability of the two academy players, we'd find ourselves with the first eight players on my list gone when we take a live pick. I'd take Perkins and Cox, without question. After that however, we could potentially take a Bruhn or Zach Reid - however I'd entertain the idea of trading down in to the teens with Collingwood, giving up what will be pick 9 at that stage and taking next years first from the Pies. We'd still be able to take a Powell, or Macrae, AND we'd have added a future first.

4. I'm hesitant to take BOTH Reid and Cox. Yes I know that contradicts my earlier statement of just take the best player, but with Eyre and Brand also likely coming in, that feels like a massive saturation of talls in one draft. As such, even though I've rated Reid higher than Bruhn, if we can't get a pick swap done and need to take the pick, I'd probably take Bruhn.

Anyways, my 2c, worthless as it is...

I like it a lot only thing I would change is I feel Phillips is a bigger chance to get through to us than Thilthorpe. I don’t believe Thilthorpe gets past Hawthorn if he’s available at that point. He fills a massive need for them, he’s a big upgrade on the cooked Jon Patton.

Also Alex Davies should be red, pre-listed by GC

 

[citizen-erased]

Rather, a player like Will Phillips would be ideal for the Crows, but draft sources believe Phillips is not in the same category as the aforementioned quartet. Foxfooty.com.au understands the tough Chargers ball magnet has slipped out of top five contention, with Essendon looking more likely to snare him with one of its three top-10 picks.

Guarantee hawks go Cox or Perkins

what are the chances 2x top 5 prospects slip?
Cox/Perkins @ 4
Reid/Cox @ 5
Phillips & Thilthorpe become our picks.

then work out what to do with 8

 

[Dons4Life]

what are the chances 2x top 5 prospects slip?
Cox/Perkins @ 4
Reid/Cox @ 5
Phillips & Thilthorpe become our picks.

then work out what to do with 8

Extremely doubtful but you never know. But if it was ever going to happen it would be this year as I expect a few major curveballs to be thrown.

 

[citizen-erased]

funny fact
if we turn 8 into 14 & Pies F1, that would mean Saad went for 2x 1st rounders