Recruiting Draft Watch 2020

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[TheGrizz]

You guys realise that Stone is a similar type to Perkins?

It looks a bit silly to complain that we are looking at a medium forward, when a consensus pick on this thread is a medium forward. Perkins has only 1 NAB league game where he had 20 disposals and had 8 clearances in the entire year.

If we want players who have midfield experience we should look at Poulter, O'Driscoll or Carroll.

The Age did note that if we traded with Collingwood that Stone and Carroll were the guys we were looking at.

I imagine if we get Perkins we wont pick Stone. I like Carroll btw.

 

[Dons4Life]

The Age did note that if we traded with Collingwood that Stone and Carroll were the guys we were looking at.

I imagine if we get Perkins we wont pick Stone. I like Carroll btw.

Yep surely the only way Carroll and Stone are even being talked about is if a trade down eventuates. They would both be a massive reach for a top 10 pick.
Lets keep it simple and take the best mid available Perkins/Phillips/McInnes?? and then the best tall Thilthorpe/Cox/Reid and then either take the pick or trade down.

 

[Steve94]

Surely we have more pressing needs than a medium forward. We've already got Laverde and Stringer.

Unless he's the latest attempt to fix our midfield issues by drafting a forward instead of a midfielder.

If we're looking at him I'd say we'd see him in the same way as Perkins as someone who can start forward but transition into a midfielder.

Most of these Victorian midfielders would've spent more time as forwards in 2019 as underagers and haven't had an opportunity to prove themselves as mids. It probably means that some team gets a bargain with a later pick whilst a few others probably get duds searching for that gun player.

 

[11kgm]

Carroll is a helllllllllll no for me

 

[Chizm]

Carroll is a helllllllllll no for me

Why exactly? I don't think he seems too bad as a trade back option

 

[FlyingV]

Wouldn’t be against taking Cox, Reid and one of Phillips/Bruhn/Perkins.

Technically we have already bagged a top ten midfielder in Caldwell so it’s kind of 2 and 2.

 

[11kgm]

Why exactly? I don't think he seems too bad as a trade back option

Fairly slight 76kgs so needs to add some baulk

Plus coming off an apparently serious wrist injury I get flash backs to Hurley

Would rather go Driscoll at that range, or Callow as a big bodied forward or Macrae

 

[eDPS]

Great video, no better channel out there for seeing players true personalities

 

[Old Campaigner]

If we're looking at him I'd say we'd see him in the same way as Perkins as someone who can start forward but transition into a midfielder.

Most of these Victorian midfielders would've spent more time as forwards in 2019 as underagers and haven't had an opportunity to prove themselves as mids. It probably means that some team gets a bargain with a later pick whilst a few others probably get duds searching for that gun player.

For sure, it just seems a bit unnecessary when there's actual midfielders including a number of big bodied ones on offer.

I feel like the only real justification is if we think a) Stone has similar upside to McInnes, b) Perkins won't be available, and c) Collingwood are open to the idea of trading up to give us a shot at him later in the first round

 

[Chizm]

Fairly slight 76kgs so needs to add some baulk

Plus coming off an apparently serious wrist injury I get flash backs to Hurley

Would rather go Driscoll at that range, or Callow as a big bodied forward or Macrae

Fair points mate, wasn't aware of the wrist issue, although I'd counter on the weight issue. Most of who we take will probably need to put on weight in some capacity. Cox or Reid in particular I feel will take even longer to fill out being the beanpoles they are. As an outside leaning player I don't mind as much as provided you know they are capable of filling out a little bit. Someone like Macrae is also only 2kg heavier, Bruhn is 2kg lighter.

Although to bring up someone else you mentioned, I must admit, I like O'Driscoll in that range too. But it all depends on who is available in that range when the pick rolls around. I don't mind Carroll because as much as we need inside mids, I also think we need some tidy outside leaning players. I understand the go-home factor may come into it too. But I like his sort of profile as a player if we were to trade back

 

[11kgm]

Fair points mate, wasn't aware of the wrist issue, although I'd counter on the weight issue. Most of who we take will probably need to put on weight in some capacity. Cox or Reid in particular I feel will take even longer to fill out being the beanpoles they are. As an outside leaning player I don't mind as much as provided you know they are capable of filling out a little bit. Someone like Macrae is also only 2kg heavier, Bruhn is 2kg lighter.

Although to bring up someone else you mentioned, I must admit, I like O'Driscoll in that range too. But it all depends on who is available in that range when the pick rolls around. I don't mind Carroll because as much as we need inside mids, I also think we need some tidy outside leaning players. I understand the go-home factor may come into it too. But I like his sort of profile as a player if we were to trade back

I don't know how bad his wrist is, maybe someone would know more. It's a shame that Powell isn't that bit taller I really like him

 

[ghostdog]

Fair points mate, wasn't aware of the wrist issue, although I'd counter on the weight issue. Most of who we take will probably need to put on weight in some capacity. Cox or Reid in particular I feel will take even longer to fill out being the beanpoles they are. As an outside leaning player I don't mind as much as provided you know they are capable of filling out a little bit. Someone like Macrae is also only 2kg heavier, Bruhn is 2kg lighter.

Although to bring up someone else you mentioned, I must admit, I like O'Driscoll in that range too. But it all depends on who is available in that range when the pick rolls around. I don't mind Carroll because as much as we need inside mids, I also think we need some tidy outside leaning players. I understand the go-home factor may come into it too. But I like his sort of profile as a player if we were to trade back

Thought I read somewhere today that Cox put on 5 or 6 kilos this year? If I'm remebering correctly, that already bodes well for filling out his man's body.

 

[Dons4Life]

Thought I read somewhere today that Cox put on 5 or 6 kilos this year? If I'm remebering correctly, that already bodes well for filling out his man's body.

Yeah up to 87/88kgs. Put on about 7 or so kgs so is well on his way to getting an afl ready frame

 

[ant555]

Cox really does seem like all that, except he just doesn't feel like he'd be able to hold down a key position as well as Reid. He seems like he could be a gun flanker or winger, which is why I think that him and Reid are mutually exclusive.

At 199cm I think he will be a KP prospect and not a flanker. The fact he has averaged 5 marks a game say more KP. I think both him and Reid will be good for whoever picks them.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Interviews with Elijah Hollands and Will Phillips.

 

[Dons4Life]

At 199cm I think he will be a KP prospect and not a flanker. The fact he has averaged 5 marks a game say more KP. I think both him and Reid will be good for whoever picks them.

His size and athletic ability screams CHB. Defend and the ability to run off opponent and also go with the athletic CHFs of the league.

 

[Tippa43]

Great video, no better channel out there for seeing players true personalities

Is that O'Driscoll with his arm in the sling? He is not that much shorter than the ruckmen in the video!

 

[eDPS]

Is that O'Driscoll with his arm in the sling? He is not that much shorter than the ruckmen in the video!

He is certainly a big inside mid, was 182cm last year he has developed alot

 

[ILikeCheese]

He doesn’t look that far off McDonald or DGB size wise in that clip...could be a solid unit on the inside. Looks a character too

 

[Keystone agony]

Well he has speed and skill

Yeh im concerned about the skill. Kicking doesnt look great

 

[Zach Package]

Talks of his versatility in recent Twomey stuff. Wouldn’t be opposed if the thinking was a Zach Bailey plug and play where ever type.

To be honest if he’s as described he sounds like Starcevic

 

[eorl]

The three big holes on our list that worry me and need to be addressed now are: Big clearance mid, quality rebound mid defender, quality young KPD (I know we have Brand coming in but the having 2/3 work is safer than needing 2/2), small lockdown defender.

With 6, 7 & 8 my plan to fix these issues would be: (assuming the big 5 are the only open draftees taken)

Bid on Campbell then Jones with 6 hoping to nab a player that can play of the half back next year, if both those are matched then bid on McInnes (a chance not to be matched at this point).

If one is not matched and acquired then draft Perkins and Reid (my preference over Cox)

If all three are matched then take Perkins and Reid. Then maybe Henry who some say have the traits to play a back flank (if that doesn't work then at worse is a Fantasia replacement)

In the case of the two (potential) tall mids (McInnes and Perkins) and Reid being taken then a DFA or mature aged back flanker should be entertained with the 6th list spot. Elsewise I would pick up Kyle Dunkley

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Kyle Dunkley

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

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D

9.6

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

(who when he was delisted I thought we should look at even before all this Josh stuff came up)

If all else fails in the small defender department then (I know it's a step in his development) maybe Andy has to go back to fill a hole for a year. Midfield Andy is easier to replace than defender Andy.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

If all else fails in the small defender department then (I know it's a step in his development) maybe Andy has to go back to fill a whole for a year. Midfield Andy is easier to replace than defender Andy.

Nah just play whoever there it’s not that important. Hind, Redman, Heppell, Ham, Guelfi, Gleeson is enough.

 

[ghostdog]

There's so much talk in this thread about Cox, Perkins, Reid and ODriscoll that I'm starting to develop this horrible feeling we'll call out Bruhn or Thilthorpe. If we pick up either of those two and trade for Pick 16 and F1, then miss ODriscoll, I'll spew.


Then I'll probably do a bit more research but I'll still be spewing in the short term.

 

[eorl]

Nah just play whoever there it’s not that important. Hind, Redman, Heppell, Ham, Guelfi, Gleeson is enough.

Which one of those would you trust to shutdown Betts, Cameron, Ryan, Papley, Elliott, Rankine/Sexton, which ever Richmond small has chosen to get off the chain against us?