- Nov 28, 2006
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I'm disappointed Houli wasn't selected.
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Essendon team? wtf= tanking?
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In my opinion, our final W/L ratio and ladder position mask where the club is really at. Carlton finished with 10 wins in 2004, Richmond with 11 wins in 2006, neither being a true indication of where the club was heading. We may finish with 11 wins and 9th spot, but we'd be deluding ourselves to think that we are knocking on the door of the top eight, that we are better than 50% to make finals next year. We are way closer to 14th than we are to 2nd, that is, we are deservedly a bottom 8 side, and will likely remain as such for the next 2-3 years.
I probably would have given Houli a run instead of Camporeale.
We have to give these young guys a few games on the trot to see how they go. I do know that Houli did play a few games earlier, but it would be interesting to see if he has learned more and improved since going back to the VFL.
We have to give these young guys a few games on the trot to see how they go. I do know that Houli did play a few games earlier, but it would be interesting to see if he has learned more and improved since going back to the VFL.
I'm as shocked by these changes as anybody, and most of all can't understand how Watson can be dropped (could cost him the Crichton?)... but I don't think Houli was that unfortunate to miss out this week. I watched the Bendigo game last week, and Houli found a lot of it but his disposal was sub-standard, missing a lot of targets by hand and foot. Hocking was outstanding though.
I a big fan of Houli, and have no doubt that he'll become a regular fixture in our side next season, but didn't deserve the call up this week.
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Pretty sure he came second to Doering.
He's a very good VFL player and I have a lot of time for him. I was a big wrap for him last year but I did begin to realise that the VFL is his level.
Hocking has more tools than Jolley. Hocking only played a couple of games last year, so didn't feature in the B&F.
21 and under or less than 50 games.
Lovett is still extremely inexperienced and has a large scope for improvement.
Carlton and Richmond's lists are in completely different shape to ours.
Neither of those sides improved on the back of young players.
I understand we've had Lloyd back, but he's been below par.
I understand we added Michael.
But a lot of our other senior players have let us down. The Johnson's, Campo etc.
We've gone into most matches with 8-10 players with less than 50 games. We're starting to fill the hole in our list that we had, with guys like Stanton, Watson, Winderlich, Monfries who are now getting gaining experience.
Carlton improved on the back of Morrell, Teague, Harford, Martyn, McKernan etc. Blokes that were all gone two years later (Teague excluded).
Whilst we too have added experienced players, we added quality ones. Blokes that have been able to impact the club and pass knowledge onto young players. Ryder speaks massively of Michael, Watson and Stanton say the same things about Campo. These blokes didn't just fill holes, they made our club and the players within it better.
Carlton plugged holes short term, kids didn't get games and the kids they did have didn't receive benefit.
We're different to Carlton and we don't have the culture of Richmond.
A win against West Coast and we're in. Presuming we beat Carlton and Richmond.
One game will decide our finals destiny. Sounds like a pretty loud ****ing knock to me.
BrownDog#20
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Sheedy knows what he is doing.
If you lose to us then we go above Melbourne
(Sheedy's new team next year) assuming they
lose and then Kevin will get pick 2 next year
at his new club instead of pick 3.
If you lose to us then we go above Melbourne
(Sheedy's new team next year) assuming they
lose and then Kevin will get pick 2 next year
at his new club instead of pick 3.
So from what I have read from all the spin merchants
- houli is not defensive enough (enter Campo)
Pev is gone =clanger count goes down (enter MJ)
Hird will get the ball out of the middle (he is not even fit - you are just assuming Watson will come in).
I am happy Hocking is in - but surely Hocking for Dyson is fair.
No probs with giving Hille a rocket.
But why drop 2 of your 3 hardest working and best mids???
Why pick hird when he clearly isn't going to play? pointless.
If Watson and Pev should be omitted then I dare say half the team should get the @rse. didn't realise you omit irrespective of form.
- houli is not defensive enough (enter Campo)
Pev is gone =clanger count goes down (enter MJ)
Hird will get the ball out of the middle (he is not even fit - you are just assuming Watson will come in).
I am happy Hocking is in - but surely Hocking for Dyson is fair.
No probs with giving Hille a rocket.
But why drop 2 of your 3 hardest working and best mids???
Why pick hird when he clearly isn't going to play? pointless.
If Watson and Pev should be omitted then I dare say half the team should get the @rse. didn't realise you omit irrespective of form.
Cant believe watson dropped. What a ******* ******* joke.
Hille and Dyson can understand and carlton's midfield not really dangerous enough for a tagger like pev but can someone explain to me how that
Campo in, hocking in, mj in infront of houli.
sheedy said he would be giving the kids a go, can understand that with hocking but last time i checked campo wasnt 19 and either was mj. Again sheedy picking his favourites instead of team balance.
Have we just lost again at the selection table.
Wonder why your contract wasn't renewed now sheeds. We should have given you a proper farewell game and got on with it. You are really stamping your impression on the club that you made famous arent you.......
Hille and Dyson can understand and carlton's midfield not really dangerous enough for a tagger like pev but can someone explain to me how that
Campo in, hocking in, mj in infront of houli.
sheedy said he would be giving the kids a go, can understand that with hocking but last time i checked campo wasnt 19 and either was mj. Again sheedy picking his favourites instead of team balance.
Have we just lost again at the selection table.
Wonder why your contract wasn't renewed now sheeds
. We should have given you a proper farewell game and got on with it. You are really stamping your impression on the club that you made famous arent you.......
whats the story down there at bomberland you guys are messing with my tipping,
On the MCG I would beg to differ.
They will get exposed for run as they already have in the past few years.
I would rather a kid that can run his guts out then a few players who if they started in the defensive goal square and sprinted to the other side of they ground they'd make it there by quarter time.
You say they have let us down and yet you want to pick them at an age were they have nothing left to give the club?
FFS man stop arguing for arguments sake.
10-11 blokes in the side that are either 21 and under or less than 50 games experience.
That sounds pretty ****ing young to me.
Lucas, Lloyd, Fletcher, Michael aren't 19 either. Get rid of them?
Why bother playing Hird, he won't be there next year.
Get real, we've got a first gamer and second gamer and a third gamer playing.
We're debuting our seventh player for the year and I've got no doubt Neagle will get a crack before the year is out.
The only joke is on the people that reckon we aren't playing kids.
TheMagicRat
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to put it simply, Big Kev is no longer excited!!!!!
He has no interest in helping this board or club be successfull after the way he has been treated. This is not to say i am one of the "SaveEssendon" nightcrawlers. But this whole situation has been handled like a school musical. If we are so besoted with getting Bomber Thompson then why couldnt we have just left well enough alone until the end of the year and not distracted the players from the task of making the finals? Add to that the almost undeniable joy it would give us to stuff up carlton's chance at the priority pick means we will indead be tanking. I would run down to my local TAB and get on the blues over 39 1/2 points
Didn't realise that a margin was necessary to miss out on the priority pick!?!
Why do all the whingers who want to play the kids then complain about how the selections will have cost su the game. We have brought in the guys who played best in the VFL. Campo and MJ by all accounts were terrific. How does bringing in more kids who haven't played as well mean we are more likely to win? please enlighten me Bombs Away. Sheedy has selected the team most likely to win, so either decide if you want to tank and play kids or that you want to win.
people are saying its to little to late, Essendon has hung onto an older core group for to long, when they retire in the next year or 2 who are you left with will you have a senior group capable of leading a team to on field success?
Is there any chance you will learn something about our team ebfore writing crap? Any at all?
To retire in the next year or two:
Hird- will eb missed
Jason Johnson: Currently not getting a game so no loss
Micheal Johnson: Wont be missed as others step up to play hsi position.
Mal Michael: Might go on but he has hardly been carrying the team.
Thats all I can think of (not includiong Heff, Camp etc)
WHo are we left with to elad the team.
McVeigh, Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher, Welsh as just some of the senoir guys
By the time these gusy have retired Watson, Windelrich, Stanton will all be in the senoir category and our youngsters will ahve developed even more.
Go back and worry about your own rabble before commenting on our team thanks champ.
welsh is a hack, lucas is in the to old catagory lloyd is past his best. Essendon are in for a world of hurt over the next few years, my rabble have addressed the problems and are now building a team that will woop your rabble for years to come "chump" starting next week
see you at next weeks game were we give you a damn good spanking
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Welsh isn't a hack at all. Can play alost anywhere on to ground. Lloyd and Lucas are not even 30. Lucas was the best forward in the competition early on in this season and has been struggling with a niggling injury. Both are much, much, much better players than Richo. Both will play for at least 3 more seasons. Lloyd was also fantastic last week so I dont knwo how he can be 'past his best'.
Essendon have both better senoir and young players than RIchmond, don't let one win over Collingwood fool you into thinking you wont get the spoon next year as well.
Now feel free to go back to your own board and ponder the fact that the only player over 21 of any worth in your side is Nathan Brown. Or maybe you can just keep pinning your hopes of players liek Meyers and JON.
Did you not read the part about us playing 10 players with either less than 50 games experience or 21 y/o and under this week?
Did you miss that we're debuting our 7th player for the season?
Pull your head in or **** off.
haven't learnt the rules about trolling on another team's board?
I think a lesson needs to be learned... Merv? You should exercise your new-found powers and ban this whining bitch.
A tiger supporter spouting this crap. Oh the irony
How many games have you won this year champ?haven't learnt the rules about trolling on another team's board?
I think a lesson needs to be learned... Merv? You should exercise your new-found powers and ban this whining bitch.
A tiger supporter spouting this crap. Oh the irony
The bit I love is a tiger supporter having a go at our senoir players. Maybe he's just projecting his own teams faults.
buffalopride
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boys sheeds is tanking cause he is setting up his team for richmond next year giving us priority so when he takes over he can do something with us lol i wish!
i wish!
or maybe i could pin my hopes to players like campo or michaels thats the way to develop young players...........
im going back to my board now but will watch essendon with much interest as they slowly implode next year. As I said you guys are in for a world of pain over the next 5 years or so
