Play Nice Fantasy EPL - 16/17

[A Bit High]

End of the day if you put your side up in here you are looking for comments/feedback/ideas and although you may think it a good side others may not so accept the criticism and move on.

End of the day trust your judgement, take advise and opinions on board and move on.

Or don't post your side up.

 

[Jatz]

Got rid of mendy?

Yeah, I've heard that other guy can play right across the front 4.

But I've changed it again. Dangerous not going with Aguero but I just think he eats up too much coin. Not sure whether to stack up on midfielders and go for cheaper strikers or vice versa.

 

[SM]

Yeah, I've heard that other guy can play right across the front 4.

But I've changed it again. Dangerous not going with Aguero but I just think he eats up too much coin. Not sure whether to stack up on midfielders and go for cheaper strikers or vice versa.

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Aguero punishes people every year for not picking him, like I alluded to in a previous post. Those 5 goals against Newcastle sunk anyone who didn't have him. Not suggesting that's the level of points you should expect to get from him, but he's a star, and unless he's injured he'll be in my team.

 

[LFC2010]

I'd be interested in EPL Real Dream Team if there is a League being set up !!!

Have set one up, have started a seperate thread for it.

 

[Jatz]

Aguero punishes people every year for not picking him, like I alluded to in a previous post. Those 5 goals against Newcastle sunk anyone who didn't have him. Not suggesting that's the level of points you should expect to get from him, but he's a star, and unless he's injured he'll be in my team.

Yeah I get it. I'm hoping that Kane + Lukaku performs better than a Aguero + Deeney (or equivalent) + (another cheapie).

 

[SM]

Yeah I get it. I'm hoping that Kane + Lukaku performs better than a Aguero + Deeney (or equivalent) + (another cheapie).

Aguero + Lukaku is where it's at.

I mean, again like I said earlier it's all about capitalising on runs of fixtures, so assessing players over the course of the season isn't necessarily needed.

 

[Jatz]

Aguero + Lukaku is where it's at.

I mean, again like I said earlier it's all about capitalising on runs of fixtures, so assessing players over the course of the season isn't necessarily needed.

But if I take Aguero over Kane (who's performed pretty consistently over a number of years now) I'd need to find 2 mil extra from somewhere. Do I only take the 2 quality mids and hope they perform?

Yeah I've looked at the early fixtures, hence no Liverpool and 2 WBA players.

 

[SM]

But if I take Aguero over Kane (who's performed pretty consistently over a number of years now) I'd need to find 2 mil extra from somewhere. Do I only take the 2 quality mids and hope they perform?

Yeah I've looked at the early fixtures, hence no Liverpool and 2 WBA players.

Yep, Rondon definitely going to be in my team.

 

[go you pups]

Aguero punishes people every year for not picking him, like I alluded to in a previous post. Those 5 goals against Newcastle sunk anyone who didn't have him. Not suggesting that's the level of points you should expect to get from him, but he's a star, and unless he's injured he'll be in my team.

Aguero is like GAJ/Fyfe in Supercoach, gun until he gets injured, been burnt by him many a time though

 

[A Bit High]

Aguero is like GAJ/Fyfe in Supercoach, gun until he gets injured, been burnt by him many a time though

Easier to downgrade from him to another gun if he gets injured than chase him because he is on fire and you left him out IMO.

 

[go you pups]

Easier to downgrade from him to another gun if he gets injured than chase him because he is on fire and you left him out IMO.

Yeah guess so, I always said similar with GAJ, start with him until badly injured

Spose going Ibra and Aguero is very top heavy though, not sure if I can afford it, hence why I'm looking at Vardy and Ibra instead


What is better you reckon

Aguero Ibra Mahrez and Payet

Or

Vardy, Ibra, KDB and Payet?

Just looking at 4 main guns to bang the goals and assists in then the rest are likely affordable fixture types to capitalise on early except Firminho, I think he will pop up against any opponent imo, I don't think he will flat track bully and we are lucky to have him as a midfielder, not a striker


If everyone is going Rondon then fine, I may as well do the same as he will likely go up in value/stay the same with high ownership, will mean I can field 3-4-3/4-3-3 every week too

 

[Cruyff14]

What I have at the moment, but not totally sure what to do.

 

[Gerald Preston]

Disagree entirely. I started last season with a Watford defender and benefitted hugely. A cheap option who will play every week is easy to park on your bench and free up cash elsewhere.

Now that I'm on a laptop I'll deconstruct exactly why I disagree with Gerald's logic.

A) First and foremost, looking at someone's points per value basis point compared to someone else, as you've done with Bellerin to Lukaku makes no sense as you're making the flawed assumption you would hypothetically hold either player for the entire season. How many players did you keep over the course of last season? With two Wildcards, and a free trade per week (not even going into taking penalties as a tactic), you could turn over your team roughly 4.5 times over the course of the season. Looking at players 5-6 game runs is all that's necessary for the start of the season.
B) The captiancy. How often did you captain a defender last season? Not much I expect. While defenders may in the long run accrue just as many, if not more points than forwards or mids, their prospects week to week are more shaky, as it just takes one opposition goal to take away a chunk of their score. It therefore limits your captaincy options, when a cheap defender can just as easily pick up said clean sheet. If you had Bellerin playing Burnley, or Lukaku playing Hull, who would you be more inclined to captain? (Disregarding the respective teams prospects at this stage, just trying to pick two equally poor teams)
C) Hedging. Making your team too different from others can actually work against you. When Aguero scored 5 against Newcastle, those that had him had their rank sky rocket. Those that captained him even more so. I essentially had that as the platform for the good season I had. Making your team too different can actually hurt, and if you're going in with only one premium forward you're only taking one of Aguero, Kane, Ibra, Lukaku, or Vardy. Especially over the start of the season that could make or break your season.
D) Value. If one of your 6.5 strikers does start the season like a house on fire, they are likely to take longer to change in price as they will have a low ownership base to start with. I can't remember exactly how it's worked out but I think it's about net change in ownership and their actual score as well. You would have plenty of time to jump on before you're priced out of getting them on board. I did likewise with guys like Wilson and Ighalo last year, and part of the skill is knowing when to jump on and when to jump off.

As for the better 6.5 options?

1. Rondon - If you discount Everton who are an enigma at the moment, Rondon doesn't have a difficult fixture until MD 8. Plenty of scoring potential.
2. Hernandez - While Hull have a difficult start to the season this guy is literally their only scoring option so everything will go through him. Has played in the league before, and scored almost as many goals as Gray last season, then scored for Uruguay at the Copa, and has hit the ground running in Pre-Season. Is also only 6.0.
3. Sakho - Granted this is assuming he does get a move to a club that will start him, Sakho has a good goal scoring record and, again, is a more reliable option than the three you're tossing up.
4. Long - A reasonably favourable start to the campaign for Southampton means Long is a pretty reasonable pick.

I've never captained a defender, you're acting like I've spent all my money on defenders? I've got De Bruyne, Hazard and Ibra as main captain choices.

My team isn't really different though, quite cookie cutter looking at ownership percentages.

Where did you rank last season?

 

[jd2010]

What I have at the moment, but not totally sure what to do.

Not enough midfield quality. The cheapies are great players but not fantasy scorers. Dier was a def last year so got points off our clean sheets

 

[SM]

I've never captained a defender, you're acting like I've spent all my money on defenders? I've got De Bruyne, Hazard and Ibra as main captain choices.

My team isn't really different though, quite cookie cutter looking at ownership percentages.

Where did you rank last season?

My entire point is no one captains defenders.. Well, one of the points.

 

[Cruyff14]

What about the rest?

 

[jd2010]

 

[jd2010]

New app looks decent

 

[Gerald Preston]

My entire point is no one captains defenders.. Well, one of the points.

Who ever said they do captain defenders? All I said was a gun defender in a good team can be better value than a striker.

 

[jd2010]

A good defensive team is gold in fantasy pl

A lot easier to pick a team getting a clean sheet than a striker scoring. Even when on a run aguero and Kane still aren't sure things. Still don't think there's a need for a 6+ defender.

 

[Gerald Preston]

My defenders - Bellerin, Shaw, Baines, Van Aanholt and Nsue

 

[jd2010]

Thinking about going with 2x 4.5 keepers instead and using the extra 0.5 to upgrade Gray to Defoe

 

[SM]

Who ever said they do captain defenders? All I said was a gun defender in a good team can be better value than a striker.

..? No one? I said by spending more money than necessary in defence you're limiting your captain options.

 

[SM]

A good defensive team is gold in fantasy pl

A lot easier to pick a team getting a clean sheet than a striker scoring. Even when on a run aguero and Kane still aren't sure things. Still don't think there's a need for a 6+ defender.

And pretty easy to pick a cheap defender from said team I would have thought. Why spend 6m on a defender when he has a 5m team mate playing, and you could upgrade a Gray to someone more likely to score regularly?

 

[SM]

What about the rest?

The rest?