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Given we continually talk about father sons on this board and last year we snagged Howard and Austin from the GWS Academy, as they were overlooked by them, and future we might want to draft a player and might make the northern teams pay proper amount, I figure a refererence thread rather than stuff all over the Genral AFL thread is better.
My personal belief is that this system will eventually open it up for Port Adelaide to one day have a fully integrated Academy program, even more so than currently and we will use this bidding system as a way to get access to top end talent out of the Port Adelaide Football Academy.
Emma Quayle in her article gave a good summary of the basic workings. She also talks about how if the bidding one day will be done live on draft day it will make it a better system
New bidding system looks fairer for all
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GWS has two players likely to attract top-10 bids this year – Jacob Hopper and Matt Kennedy. Sydney has Callum Mills and potential father-son Josh Dunkley on the way.
So, do those clubs trade out a star this year to gain extra "points"? Do they decide they're well placed enough to concede their first pick in the 2016 draft? Do they wait until then to trade out for points they need? One thing is for sure: they're going to have to cast ahead as comprehensively as possible.
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Having to make tough decisions will mean the four clubs simply won't have the capacity to take every available player. They will have to let some go. Some of those players will be good players, who will strengthen the draft pool. What will make the new system perfect is if bidding is done live on draft night. Hopefully that will happen as soon as this year.
Under the outgoing system (where bidding was done before trading) clubs have not wanted to risk bidding picks they already have tied up in looming trades, or got together with others that morning to make sure someone sticks their hand up. They've bid for players knowing full well that the bid would be matched and that any bluff would not be called. Live bidding would mean recruiters know exactly which other players are still on the board when deciding whether to place a bid or match one. It would also liven up draft night.
New bidding system looks fairer for all
The new bidding system explained
another article from Emma explaining it further.
Clubs to pay high price for top-end draft talent under new bidding rules
You can download the 15 page booklet either at the first link as a pdf or the second as power point
Biding System PDF
Bidding System Power Point
A cut and paste from the document
AFL Draft Value Index Graph
Blue line - Raw data (AFL player salaries)
Red line - AFL Draft Value Index graph
AFL Draft Value Index
Here are a couple of long articles on the AFL site explaining things and northern clubs saying they are happy.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-...ed-for-fatherson-and-northern-academy-players
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-...system-closes-fatherson-and-academy-loopholes
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-21/northern-clubs-in-favour-of-new-bidding-system
My personal belief is that this system will eventually open it up for Port Adelaide to one day have a fully integrated Academy program, even more so than currently and we will use this bidding system as a way to get access to top end talent out of the Port Adelaide Football Academy.
Emma Quayle in her article gave a good summary of the basic workings. She also talks about how if the bidding one day will be done live on draft day it will make it a better system
New bidding system looks fairer for all
.......
GWS has two players likely to attract top-10 bids this year – Jacob Hopper and Matt Kennedy. Sydney has Callum Mills and potential father-son Josh Dunkley on the way.
So, do those clubs trade out a star this year to gain extra "points"? Do they decide they're well placed enough to concede their first pick in the 2016 draft? Do they wait until then to trade out for points they need? One thing is for sure: they're going to have to cast ahead as comprehensively as possible.
.....
Having to make tough decisions will mean the four clubs simply won't have the capacity to take every available player. They will have to let some go. Some of those players will be good players, who will strengthen the draft pool. What will make the new system perfect is if bidding is done live on draft night. Hopefully that will happen as soon as this year.
Under the outgoing system (where bidding was done before trading) clubs have not wanted to risk bidding picks they already have tied up in looming trades, or got together with others that morning to make sure someone sticks their hand up. They've bid for players knowing full well that the bid would be matched and that any bluff would not be called. Live bidding would mean recruiters know exactly which other players are still on the board when deciding whether to place a bid or match one. It would also liven up draft night.
New bidding system looks fairer for all
The new bidding system explained
- Applies to father-son and northern academy players (Swans Academy, Giants Academy, Suns Academy and Lions Academy).
- Every pick from 1-73 has been assigned a number of points on the Draft Value Index, which was created using player salary data from 2000-14 – ie, what the players chosen at each pick have gone on to earn. From pick 74, picks have zero value.
- A minimum 20% discount has been applied to both father-son and academy players, to encourage clubs to continue investing in their eligible players.
- From pick 19 onwards, the percentage discount will increase with each pick. A maximum 197 point discount (20% of pick 18) will instead be applied.
- If a club chooses to match a bid for one of its player, it must effectively "buy" the pick used to bid for him using its points.
- If a club doesn't have enough points to match the bid with its next available selection, further points will be deducted from its subsequent pick (and possibly one or two after that), with those picks moving down the order or to the back of the draft.
- Draft picks will move up and down as bids are made and matched.
- Clubs that do not have enough picks in one draft to match all bids will be in deficit heading into the following year's draft, with the remaining points to be deducted from their first round selection.
another article from Emma explaining it further.
Clubs to pay high price for top-end draft talent under new bidding rules
You can download the 15 page booklet either at the first link as a pdf or the second as power point
Biding System PDF
Bidding System Power Point
A cut and paste from the document
AFL Draft Value Index Graph
Blue line - Raw data (AFL player salaries)
Red line - AFL Draft Value Index graph
AFL Draft Value Index
Here are a couple of long articles on the AFL site explaining things and northern clubs saying they are happy.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-...ed-for-fatherson-and-northern-academy-players
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-...system-closes-fatherson-and-academy-loopholes
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-21/northern-clubs-in-favour-of-new-bidding-system
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