Society/Culture Feminism - 2017 Thread - Pt II

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Under any circumstances? That's unfortunate; will work out as well as banning guns or drugs (not very)
Here. It's not banning abortion. They will still happen. It's criminalising those women who seek safe abortion, those those who provide them and those who support women who make this choice. Astonishingly, those who leave the state to get one, or support those materially who get one in another state can be prosecuted.

One of the blind sports in American conceptions of federalism is that state governments have often been the most oppressive. Devolving governing power away from the Federal govt to state govts has resulted in a very illiberal tradition of hick authoritarianism.

These states are banking on Roe being overturned, and they may get it.

"The bill is misleadingly termed a “heartbeat” bill, and it bans abortions at any stage of pregnancy after the detection of “embryonic or fetal cardiac activity”. But “heartbeat” is a bit is a bit of a misnomer, since the cardiac activity that is first detected in an embryo is not a heartbeat by any stretch of the imagination; what is first observed is the pulsing of cells that are specializing and will eventually become a heart. At this point in the pregnancy, the fetus has no brain and no face.

This cellular movement can first be detected at a phase of pregnancy referred to as six weeks of gestation. But this, too, is a misleading phrase. Gestational age is measured not from insemination, but from the beginning of the patient’s last menstrual period. So the bill bans all abortions at four weeks after conception, or roughly two weeks after the woman’s first missed period.

This stage of pregnancy is often past before the patient even knows that she is pregnant. This is the idea: to make the logistical, legal and monetary burdens to access an abortion so heavy that most women will not be able to get one."
 

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An economic boycott of the state's abortion law is gathering some momentum.

It's the only deep Southern state with something resembling an economy, so the lever can be pulled there. When it gets to Mississippi, SC it can't. Alabama is ******.
Please post in the relevant thread. Abortion is not a women's issue. It concerns 3 people: the mother, the father, and the unborn baby.
 

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Please post in the relevant thread. Abortion is not a women's issue. It concerns 3 people: the mother, the father, and the unborn baby.
And now the government, prosecutors and police.

This thread has devolved to MUSLIMS, white men are the real victims and hey look at the fat woman with coloured hair.

The right to control your body is a central concern to nearly all forms of feminism.




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The father and (particularly) the unborn baby do not get a voice in the decision if the gov are not involved.

I'm not even entirely against abortion, just against the cheap way it is regarded as being and an issue of "a woman and her body". It is clearly more than that.
 

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The father and (particularly) the unborn baby do not get a voice in the decision if the gov are not involved.

I'm not even entirely against abortion, just against the cheap way it is regarded as being and an issue of "a woman and her body". It is clearly more than that.
In these states, there is no decision. It’s already been made by the government.


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The father and (particularly) the unborn baby do not get a voice in the decision if the gov are not involved.

I'm not even entirely against abortion, just against the cheap way it is regarded as being and an issue of "a woman and her body". It is clearly more than that.
I'm for abortion or the right to choose to have one, but I am also for the right for the rights of a guy to have a say
 

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Please post in the relevant thread. Abortion is not a women's issue. It concerns 3 people: the mother, the father, and the unborn baby.
Which is to say that governments and religions have no part in the process. With this I agree. Do you have any problem with the medical profession becoming involved?
 

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As people have been saying for a while it's the oppression olympics. Feminists vs LGBTQ vs Islam...battle Royale soon.
No doubt the feminists will be up in arms about this? A day to celebrate our mothers but even that's no longer allowed thanks to the LGBTQ community. Probably those damn white males!
'White males' are breaking all sorts of records in these Olympics.

And they're not trying to get rid of the day. They're trying to be more included in it.

But I only know that because I read it. That you posted.
 
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